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does anybody else just buy the russian copy and change the language to english?
also F#%$ Origin.
Nobody is doing anybody a disservice. BF4 runs great on Windows 8 already so they need to get Windows 7 performance better. Fact is with THIS game most people will be running it on Windows 7. This isn't the future and nobody is trying to stop anyone from using Win 8 or doing it a disservice. I swear the Win 8 fan boys get touchy over anything negative even if it has nothing to do with it.
I'm uploading a video that has Frap 99 running so you guys can watch how windows 8 runs the game at DX 11.1 on my setup at stock speeds.
I'll buy BF4 a year later for 5 dolla dollar bill ya all...then promptly uninstall it
Upgrades abound, just got SSD + 16GB RAM + Win8 upgrade for testing. I will be doing a HDD vs. SSD test to see if SSD helps, and we will be testing BF4 with 16GB of RAM, and now I've got Win8 to test Win7 vs. Win8 perf in BF4. No rest for me
All hail RoboBrent, our new overlord
I really appreciate it, so many say they have seen a huge difference on Win 8 without hard numbers to back up claims. I wonder about the ssd speed though. I load beta faster 99% of the time on my mechanical drive than a friend does on ssd.
Hard numbers (from earlier in this thread)
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040275709&postcount=77
This is what spurred me to upgrade (had a Win8 Pro disc laying around).
BTW, thanks Brent - and at least it's exciting to get new gear...even if it is work.
It doesn't take a lot of digging to find answers as they say.
We use DX11.1, there are some optimizations in it (constant buffer offsets, dynamic buffers as SRVs) that we got in to the the API that improves CPU performance in our rendering when one runs with DX11.1. This will be in BF4.
The game engine is built on top of DX 11.1 and when ask..
We asked AMD about the Southern Islands, but AMD was very clear on the hardware support from the launch of the product - Southern Islands, Radeon HD 7000 Series is DirectX 11.1 compliant with full hardware feature level 11_1 (as listed on AMD Radeon HD 7970 Product Page). However, be warned that some AMD hardware from the 7000 series come only with the hardware feature level 11_0, as they are rebranded products from 6000 series of products (Northern Islands GPU architecture). It is rumored that the upcoming Kepler refresh (rumored GK112, GK114 and 117) will feature full hardware feature level 11_1 as well.
It doesn't take a lot of digging to find answers as they say.
We use DX11.1, there are some optimizations in it (constant buffer offsets, dynamic buffers as SRVs) that we got in to the the API that improves CPU performance in our rendering when one runs with DX11.1. This will be in BF4.
The game engine is built on top of DX 11.1 and when ask..
We asked AMD about the Southern Islands, but AMD was very clear on the hardware support from the launch of the product - Southern Islands, Radeon HD 7000 Series is DirectX 11.1 compliant with full hardware feature level 11_1 (as listed on AMD Radeon HD 7970 Product Page). However, be warned that some AMD hardware from the 7000 series come only with the hardware feature level 11_0, as they are rebranded products from 6000 series of products (Northern Islands GPU architecture). It is rumored that the upcoming Kepler refresh (rumored GK112, GK114 and 117) will feature full hardware feature level 11_1 as well.
The point is why windows 8 runs the game better then windows 7
Upgrades abound, just got SSD + 16GB RAM + Win8 upgrade for testing. I will be doing a HDD vs. SSD test to see if SSD helps, and we will be testing BF4 with 16GB of RAM, and now I've got Win8 to test Win7 vs. Win8 perf in BF4. No rest for me
Quickie, what are you guys using to monitor FPS in game? Afterburner OSD seems to have gone inop and will display everything BUT FPS on my G15's display.
FRAPS, as stated in the article. Seemed to work just fine and will display on a G15.
Great article. I'd love to see a follow up covering this and any other games where there is such a big gap between current quantifiable metrics and gameplay 'feel.'
If its not speed or consistency of frame delivery leading to good feel, then what is it? Any attempts to better isolate or describe the missing X factors could be a great contribution both to the way equipment is reviewed, as well as possibly improving new equipment to come.
Separately, I'm pretty concerned this game required such a huge chunk of CPU power from a system that is likely easily past the 90th percentile as far as all gamer systems. Does this mean the vast majority of PC gamers can expect an unplayable experience on their more mainstream rigs? Or are there user accessible settings that can dial down the CPU required (at what cost to gameplay or visuals?)
According to Kyle how can low FPS of 8 feel smoother and more fluid than low FPS of 24?
I'm assuming that [H] will have a Mantle comparison once that hits?
That is more or less what they're going to do, I think it was stated in the thread somewhere.