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Battlefield 2 Patch 1.2 changes

I like it! Sounds good, i'd really like to know what "prone spamming" is as well. I hope its not laying prone for a long period or something. I usually go prone when i'm in a shit fest or 1 on 1 with someone.

I don't have a problem with the bunny hopping but other people seem too, just depends on the server I guess. The medic thing :D now that rox.. i hate when 2 guys die and u always miss one waiting for the stupid thing to re-charge.
 
From what I have read, prone spamming is when you press the prone button repeatedly and firing simultaneously but it appears as though you are still laying prone to other players.
 
sc4r4b said:
From what I have read, prone spamming is when you press the prone button repeatedly and firing simultaneously but it appears as though you are still laying prone to other players.
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Forgive me for being ignorant but... what the heck does THAT do? Sounds to me like that would benefit the enemy, not the person doing the proning.
 
If you prone spam behind a wall or sandbags the enemy never sees you stand up...
 
Interesting how quickly new terms are coined. Dolphin Diving? Prone spamming?

Obviously the best game ever! :D
 
ComputerBox34 said:
When is this patch coming out? I'll play BF2 everyday once it comes out and I'll get SF.
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I wasnt pleased with SF. Its like taking 64 people, cramming them in a quake3 map and letting them go. Its hardly tactical, more DM style.... Although, I do love the regular game.
 
man, prone spamming, dolphin diving, bunny hopping, sprint exploit....lol....never seen the sprint exploit in the wild, but damn those dolphin divers piss me off to no end.....

how does the prone spamming work? u say stand behind a wall or sandbag, and go prone and standing back n forth real fast and they dont see u standing? thats a new one on me...explain a lil further?

and i love this one

when you kill the bastard like that just walk over his dead face and dip dip dip dip, it will make you feel better, I guarantee it


im gonna be teabaggin a buncha dead n00bs tonite LOL
 
- Players can no longer jump and shoot at the same time

Sounds good to me, but I hope they have made some exceptions. Jumping + Firing is the only way you can *throw* expacks and mines as well as getting a little bit more distance with grenades.
 
Pulsar said:
- Players can no longer jump and shoot at the same time

Sounds good to me, but I hope they have made some exceptions. Jumping + Firing is the only way you can *throw* expacks and mines as well as getting a little bit more distance with grenades.
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Good point
 
I think all of these changes are great and will hopefully make the game that much better. I do have to say that I am a little guilty of "bunny hoping" as it has been described, but not for the reasons you may think. I usually play anti-tank with the rapid shotgun unlock. Well, when I meet someone head-to-head they usually go prone. Well, that is a real disadvantage for the shotgun as their profile is now a lot smaller. What I do to compensate is sprint towards them, jump, and then fire downwards. That increases their relative profile so the shotgun has more chances to hit. Oh, well, guess I can't do that anymore.

Also, on the topic of anti-tank, can anyone explain to me why the enemy vehicles in this game get a tone when you are firing on them? I mean, I am using a TOW (Tube-launched Optically Wire guided) which means that I am using a passive system (i.e. not RADAR) so the tank should not know that I am looking at them. The same goes for aircraft. If I am using the heat seeking SAM (again a passive system) how do the helos know? If any of these systems used RADAR to lock-on it wouldn’t be a problem, but heat seeking and optical should not give any warning. Now, I could understand maybe giving a warning AFTER launch, but not before. Just one of those little peeves I have.
 
Farseer said:
I think all of these changes are great and will hopefully make the game that much better. I do have to say that I am a little guilty of "bunny hoping" as it has been described, but not for the reasons you may think. I usually play anti-tank with the rapid shotgun unlock. Well, when I meet someone head-to-head they usually go prone. Well, that is a real disadvantage for the shotgun as their profile is now a lot smaller. What I do to compensate is sprint towards them, jump, and then fire downwards. That increases their relative profile so the shotgun has more chances to hit. Oh, well, guess I can't do that anymore.

Also, on the topic of anti-tank, can anyone explain to me why the enemy vehicles in this game get a tone when you are firing on them? I mean, I am using a TOW (Tube-launched Optically Wire guided) which means that I am using a passive system (i.e. not RADAR) so the tank should not know that I am looking at them. The same goes for aircraft. If I am using the heat seeking SAM (again a passive system) how do the helos know? If any of these systems used RADAR to lock-on it wouldn’t be a problem, but heat seeking and optical should not give any warning. Now, I could understand maybe giving a warning AFTER launch, but not before. Just one of those little peeves I have.
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Well posted! I think Dice made this game to be more "fun" than "realistic". I think they succeeded in that aspect. But you're right, the lock-on noises are peculiar and "game-orientated".
 
I hadn't even heard of or seen prone spamming or a sprint exploit before I had read this thread.
 
I like how they don't mention anything about the poor performance issues and random constant lockups caused by 1.12.
 
Pulsar said:
- Players can no longer jump and shoot at the same time

Sounds good to me, but I hope they have made some exceptions. Jumping + Firing is the only way you can *throw* expacks and mines as well as getting a little bit more distance with grenades.
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I would think they would make a distinction between throwing and shooting, but then again...
 
Does anyone else miss the chase cam and player cycling you could do once you died and were waiting to respawn in BF42/DC? It is extremely boring just watching the sky or surrounding terrain once you die and are waiting. I know it is only on average 15 seconds but it was so much more enjoyable watching my teammates while I waited to respawn in BF42.
 
Jeriko_Cherry said:
“Dolphin Diving” is no longer possible - good, this was annoying, but sometimes was nice to jump over a sandbag and prone to avoid enemy fire
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Bullets still go around the corners. That has never been fixed. So you will probably still die if jumping over a sandbag and going prone right away.
 
overthetop said:
Bullets still go around the corners. That has never been fixed. So you will probably still die if jumping over a sandbag and going prone right away.
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It's the shit netcode. From your perspective, you're behind the sandbag. The enemy sees what you were seeing a split-second ago because EA can't seem to find anyone that knows how to program online play correctly.
 
I don't think I have ever played an online game that has completely eliminated the shot while going around corners problem. Its more prevalent in some, but I have never seen it disappear.
 
Nature of the beast I believe. It was the same with Quake 3. I used to get really annoyed when someone would rail me when I thought I wasn't even in their field of view yet/anymore. The difference is that now you're moving significantly slower, so it becomes more apparent. This type of thing happens in America's Army and If I recall, CS as well.. so its not isolated to the BF series..
 
When you're shot around a corner, it means you were shot before the corner and allowed to walk around the corner when you should be dead. It's just a cosmetic issue, confusing though it may be.
 
Sobek said:
Does anyone else miss the chase cam and player cycling you could do once you died and were waiting to respawn in BF42/DC? It is extremely boring just watching the sky or surrounding terrain once you die and are waiting. I know it is only on average 15 seconds but it was so much more enjoyable watching my teammates while I waited to respawn in BF42.
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some servers allow this still....use the cycle view button, see ive noticed it ONLY happens on certain servers that allow it, and ONLY when it says youve been killed, not critically injured....so im thinkin only when u are really DEAD, ie not reviveable by a medic...that u can switch views, see whats goin on with ur teammates....and get an idea of where to spawn at with what gear :)
 
I like people saying no more bunny hopping ....
whats it called now?
BECAUSE they are still doing it.
how about lying down and jumping 8 feet in the air.
thats still there.
infinate running is still in. AS a matter of fact I had a guy
outrun me in a jeep...WTF do they call this?

HACKS ARE EVERYWHERE....punkbuster is a big joke

DID THEY FIX ANYTHING
why yes...they did fix some of the aircraft BS
I actually took out a helo with only 4 rockets.WOW flying tanks.
1 rocket 1 kill is more like it....THIS IS NOT FIXED

so did they fix anything?

designed by 12 yr olds for 11 yr old players....STILL quake clone

still a looser buy

why do I play it HELL IF I KNOW ROFL


sparks
 
sparks said:
I like people saying no more bunny hopping ....
whats it called now?
BECAUSE they are still doing it.
how about lying down and jumping 8 feet in the air.
thats still there.
infinate running is still in. AS a matter of fact I had a guy
outrun me in a jeep...WTF do they call this?

HACKS ARE EVERYWHERE....punkbuster is a big joke

DID THEY FIX ANYTHING
why yes...they did fix some of the aircraft BS
I actually took out a helo with only 4 rockets.WOW flying tanks.
1 rocket 1 kill is more like it....THIS IS NOT FIXED

so did they fix anything?

designed by 12 yr olds for 11 yr old players....STILL quake clone

still a looser buy

why do I play it HELL IF I KNOW ROFL


sparks
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Have a great day! :)
 
sparks said:
I like people saying no more bunny hopping ....
whats it called now?
BECAUSE they are still doing it.
how about lying down and jumping 8 feet in the air.
thats still there.
infinate running is still in. AS a matter of fact I had a guy
outrun me in a jeep...WTF do they call this?

HACKS ARE EVERYWHERE....punkbuster is a big joke

DID THEY FIX ANYTHING
why yes...they did fix some of the aircraft BS
I actually took out a helo with only 4 rockets.WOW flying tanks.
1 rocket 1 kill is more like it....THIS IS NOT FIXED

so did they fix anything?

designed by 12 yr olds for 11 yr old players....STILL quake clone

still a looser buy

why do I play it HELL IF I KNOW ROFL


sparks
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i feel ur pain bro...i totally feel it....

but none theless its a fun game...like last nite..ill copy n paste from my blog cuz i was so damn stoked at this moment....my squad leader said if ever there was a bf2 recorder moment that was it....

so in bf2 last nite, i was in some map, special forces map...i forget the name really, but i was in a squad of us 4 or 5, we were pinned down in this valley, with snipers up top, and tanks on one end cornering us in, and we snuk out the valley and went up then behind a hill, came around in a J move, came to a fork in the road, squad leader said u wanna take that flag over there (100meters) or u wanna knife these snipers around the hill? everybody said knife knife! so we formed up under a tree for cover, pulled out our blades, and we all went over, 2 to the left, 2 to the right, and we knifed all those sniper bastards!!! lol i climbed up in a machine gunners tower, and knifed the bastard! LOL

and we still got the flag :)

PWNED!!!!!!



moments like that make this game OH so enjoyable :)
 
sparks said:
I like people saying no more bunny hopping ....
whats it called now?
BECAUSE they are still doing it.
how about lying down and jumping 8 feet in the air.
thats still there.
infinate running is still in. AS a matter of fact I had a guy
outrun me in a jeep...WTF do they call this?

HACKS ARE EVERYWHERE....punkbuster is a big joke

DID THEY FIX ANYTHING
why yes...they did fix some of the aircraft BS
I actually took out a helo with only 4 rockets.WOW flying tanks.
1 rocket 1 kill is more like it....THIS IS NOT FIXED

so did they fix anything?

designed by 12 yr olds for 11 yr old players....STILL quake clone

still a looser buy

why do I play it HELL IF I KNOW ROFL


sparks
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And a post written by a 12 year old. Good day, sir.
 
Great,can't wait for the release. Since there are about 10 or so 2nd Lt's now maybe they will go further with the officer ranks.
 
sparks said:
I like people saying no more bunny hopping ....
whats it called now?
BECAUSE they are still doing it.
how about lying down and jumping 8 feet in the air.
thats still there.
infinate running is still in. AS a matter of fact I had a guy
outrun me in a jeep...WTF do they call this?

HACKS ARE EVERYWHERE....punkbuster is a big joke

DID THEY FIX ANYTHING
why yes...they did fix some of the aircraft BS
I actually took out a helo with only 4 rockets.WOW flying tanks.
1 rocket 1 kill is more like it....THIS IS NOT FIXED

so did they fix anything?


sparks
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Cool your jets man.....

This is the featurelist for the 1.2 patch. Currently you and I are using 1.12. The 1.2 patch isnt even out yet. This is leaked info supposedly from EA.
 
There is no avoiding the "shot after taking cover" problem with current networking technologies. Its either your gunfire delays or your death delays. Personally I'd prefer a gunfire delay as I get around 10-50 ping and its unnoticeable. With client side if some guy 250 ping shoots me and he sees it on his screen I'll die even if I just went behind cover 1/4 of a second ago. Everything was server side(gunfire delay) until half-life came out with their client-sided netcode.

I have noticed that BF 2 seems to have a bullet delay from lag... maybe they just suck at making a netcode.
 
Kritter said:
How about giving the tank some balls for getting up hills.
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Yess, how annoying is that, if your driving up a climable hill, and the fucking tank just stops climbing half way throught it, WTF, so your stuck, and by the time you try it for the third attempt, you either get c4'd, or taken out by cobra or hind.
 
sparks said:
I like people saying no more bunny hopping ....
whats it called now?
BECAUSE they are still doing it.
how about lying down and jumping 8 feet in the air.
thats still there.
infinate running is still in. AS a matter of fact I had a guy
outrun me in a jeep...WTF do they call this?

HACKS ARE EVERYWHERE....punkbuster is a big joke

DID THEY FIX ANYTHING
why yes...they did fix some of the aircraft BS
I actually took out a helo with only 4 rockets.WOW flying tanks.
1 rocket 1 kill is more like it....THIS IS NOT FIXED

so did they fix anything?

designed by 12 yr olds for 11 yr old players....STILL quake clone

still a looser buy

why do I play it HELL IF I KNOW ROFL


sparks
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