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b0rging customers, would this be wrong?

Viper87227

Viper87227

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I got a job at circuit city. I am the dude in charge of all the customer PC crap. Installing memory and CD-Roms, cleaning spyware and virus, system diagnosis ect. Well, after seeing the funny b0rging of the best buy maching, I got thinking. Would it be wrong to b0rg all the computers I work on?
 
it would be very wrong.

Nice dream though :D
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well you'd have to tell them...or else if one of them finds it someone's going to be in trouble
 
Prolly, since you don't have the customer's permission. If someone else (fellow employee or customer's "computer geek" friend) catches you and you get reported your job might be in danger. This may also give you more work to do down the line if f@h conflicts with something the customer uses (ex: my f@h gui kicks me to desktop when I try to play some games). The customer could end up bringing the computer that you just fixed back again so that you can fix it once more. If it were me, I would just save myself a potential headache and not do it. I mean, with the billion+ virii and spyware the average user has, do you really expect f@h to have any spare clock cycles to work anyway? :D
 
gwai lo said:
well you'd have to tell them...or else if one of them finds it someone's going to be in trouble
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Oh I'm not so sure about that.....
Couldn't be any worse than the crap that comes pre-loaded on any other store bought POS these days..... :p
 
Just think of the possibility that you do this to some bored lawyer. He (she) would have you and CC in court so fast and you wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.

You're messing with private property, not real smart.

There doesn’t need to be real “damages” to be sued for “damages”. Not only could the store be sued, but you could be named in the suit and hit big time in the pocket book.

Then there is the potential damage to the folding program at Stanford as a whole, they don’t need bad publicity.

Getting fired could be the least of your worries.
 
It seriously damages the credibility of the F@H program when people install the client on machines without permission. Installing the folding client without permission is very, very wrong, and people when the find out will get mad at you, and at the Stanford project. Installations without permission, when discovered by Stanford, have resulted in nullification of a user's points.
 
You think anyone wants a gaming machine that lags even with the fastest processor? You could tell people about it but if you install on their machines at build and then sell it with that program running it would hinder the performance if they don't know what it is or how to use it.
 
BossNoodleKaboodle said:
You think anyone wants a gaming machine that lags even with the fastest processor? You could tell people about it but if you install on their machines at build and then sell it with that program running it would hinder the performance if they don't know what it is or how to use it.
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First off I would like to say that I don't condone installing F@H on someone's machine without their permission. Besides, they would be able to tell that something is "wrong" if they ever fired up task manager. It would show 100% CPU usage even though they aren't running any programs at the moment.

Actually, the person buying the system would probably never notice anything wrong with performance if it is the first time they've had the machine. They would not have a comparison with the machine with and without F@H installed.

The performance impact of F@H is negligible. I have yet to notice a difference between running software with and without F@H running. I get a bigger performance increase by reinstalling Windows over shutting down F@H and then doing stuff. If I didn't have the program sitting in the taskbar and EMIII sitting in the system tray, I would never be able to tell that it's running.

 
The easiest way for me to tell if Folding is running is by the temperature. The exhaust air from the back of the computer is noticeably hotter while F@H is running, which in turn causes my room to be noticeably warmer.

Most OEM machines do not have very good cooling, so running the folding client could impact the lifetime of their machine.
 
now installing F@H on a system you are working on and unistalling it before u give back to the customer would be ok in the idea u are running to test the machine. depending on how long you have the machine and have it running (ie. long anuff to even finish a work unit)
BUT YOU MUST UNINSTALL IT BEFORE YOU SET IT FOR RETURN TO CUSTOMER!!
 
Majic said:
now installing F@H on a system you are working on and unistalling it before u give back to the customer would be ok in the idea u are running to test the machine. depending on how long you have the machine and have it running (ie. long anuff to even finish a work unit)
BUT YOU MUST UNINSTALL IT BEFORE YOU SET IT FOR RETURN TO CUSTOMER!!
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hmmm, that is an interesting idea. I will make sure they dont use large WU's and see how long it takes. How much time I have with the system depends on what I am doing. The "my comuter if screwed up and I have no idea why" ones take a bit longer, that woudl be a good opprotunity. Spyware and viruses take a bit of time just to scan. Anything hardware related, unless it involves copying files to a new drive, is five minutes.
 
All morality issues aside, you gotta wonder if a few points for humanity is worth risking a paycheck. My feeling is probably not and that it's a good idea to fight the addiction. :eek:
 
Just think if you have a nice new expensive sports car and you hand the keys over to the Valet as you go eat dinner only to find out later he took it for a joyride around town while you were eating. Would you be upset ?
 
Not to mention that if for some reason someone sees the WUs returned as being for team 33, we might all get boned. Just a thought.
 
BossNoodleKaboodle said:
Just curious SmokeRings, but why the performance boost after a fresh install of Win?
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Actually, I usually don't have any performance increases in F@H. Just general running of applications and browsing of files type stuff. I haven't really noticed any extra folding speed from a fresh install.

The main reason I have that is because I really don't take care of my OS. I'll leave unused programs installed and don't do the regular maintenance I should on it. I'm not talking about spyware/adware and viruses. I make sure that stuff doesn't get on my system or if it somehow does, doesn't last long. Since I have a tendancy to gum up my OS install, it slows down. Although I have my new HD back in and seem to have just about everything setup the way I like, I'll probably keep this install decent. Then again, I may be doing another upgrade in a month or two so I may be doing another reinstall then if I decide to change some things softwarewise.

 
Definately falls under the, "cool, but not cool realm".

Now I do run F@H on all my builds for 7 days before I give the customer the computer. I do it to ensure the computer is going to run without a problem... I do however, remove it if they want me to. I havent had a customer yet that wants to keep it on and that is cool as its their money.
 
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