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AVG Finding Stuff Nothing Else Does

cthulhuiscool

cthulhuiscool

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I was running the Kaspersky antivirus trial for a while and it ran fine and scans found nothing. Eventually in ran out and I installed avg and it found a SWARM of viruses, spyware, trojans, and ect. I haven't gone to any seedy websites or downloaded anything questionable so I don't know how it got on there but its strange. The damndest thing is avg always did this for me. I reformatted my computer twice because avg reported lots of junk and the 3rd time put on Kaspersky and it said my system is clean. Is avg defunct or what?

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Everything it has found is in the Acitvex Compatibilty for IE section and are listed as "warnings", if that helps.
 
Kaspersky is one of the best....
AVG is "so so" for detection rates..also a bit higher in FP's. What actual files is it finding? Just coookies? How did you have Kaspersky setup? What settings?
 
it was kaspersky 2009, nothing found from avg are labeled "infections they are called "warnings." It ranges from malware to trojans and hijackers it said were found.
 
cthulhuiscool said:
it was kaspersky 2009, nothing found from avg are labeled "infections they are called "warnings." It ranges from malware to trojans and hijackers it said were found.
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That doesn't really make sense. Why would it list a Trojan as a warning ? And if it actually is then I think it's time to move to a more robust anti virus program.:D Just leave avg in the dust.
 
I run avg 7.5 on my one windows box because its free and it picks up the majority of the stuff I'll never get. Anti-virus using sigs is quickly becoming useless thanks to smarter programmers avoiding signature detection and the evolution of malware. Drive-by malware is an everyday thing these days for the majority of users on the web.

www.virustotal.com is a good place to see how much your av really doesnt detect. Your best line of defense for those of you running windows is firefox with the add-on no-script. If you really wanna feel free of the burden of av programs, go download ubuntu or debian and surf freely knowing you cant be infected by 99.9999% of the viruses and malware in the wild.
 
Jabroni31169 said:
www.virustotal.com is a good place to see how much your av really doesnt detect. Your best line of defense for those of you running windows is firefox with the add-on no-script. If you really wanna feel free of the burden of av programs, go download ubuntu or debian and surf freely knowing you cant be infected by 99.9999% of the viruses and malware in the wild.
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Viruses nowadays can be picked up just by surfing. That's how some people can just get rootkit spyware.

Ubuntu is amazingly clean. I run it in a VM and if I'm so paranoid i could surf from within a VM with no noticable performance hit.

In XP, so far, I'm liking Avira.
 
when did AVG become a "sucks" item?....I thought it was regularly recommended by the "HARD"...
 
harsaphes said:
when did AVG become a "sucks" item?...I thought it was regularly recommended by the "HARD"...
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"Hard"? "Soft", "firm"? eh?

Over several years ago. It's consistantly over the past several years been just "average/middle of the road" as far as detection/cleaning goes, av-comparatives.org

I think its popularity is due to it being "free".

Best of the "free" AVs....."AntiVir"
 
I've been using AntiVir (Avira). It's good. Fewer false positives, but the thing i don't like is that if it detects what it thinks is a virus and you ignore it, it does not remember the setting. Is there a way to get the program to remember?
 
AVG, as some other's have mentioned - sucks.

I use McAfee, and it hasn't let me down yet.
 
i still use AVG for free clients, i think its good enough when you disable the link scanner, and toolbar.

Nod32 for everything else, especially when for 19 bucks you can get it off newegg =)
 
dandragonrage said:
Avira and NOD32 are the only ones worth using. See http://www.av-comparatives.org/. Some other antivirus programs do well in some tests but those two are the only ones that consistantly score excellently and both are very light on resources.
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That is the site I always recommend using for the defacto standard of AV comparisons... I myself have stopped using AVG and have all my systems on Avira.
 
while i dont want to argue with anyone, based on the above mentioned web site, http://www.av-comparatives.org/ if you go to the "Report" section AVG is awarded three stars in the "Advanced+" along with the other mentioned products. I have no loyalty to AVG but I wouldnt say it sucked after reading the report either.
 
harsaphes said:
while i dont want to argue with anyone, based on the above mentioned web site, http://www.av-comparatives.org/ if you go to the "Report" section AVG is awarded three stars in the "Advanced+" along with the other mentioned products. I have no loyalty to AVG but I wouldnt say it sucked after reading the report either.
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Good for it. It'll be back to sucking next time. And it's just Advanced that time, not +. AntiVir and NOD32 got Advanced+. 32% for AVG, 72% for AntiVir. Hmm....
 
....sorry i was looking at the report above that one you mentioned..on-demand comparative.
 
AVG has found lots of stuff on my PC the past year... Unfortunately none of it was actually real, and I've spent too much time restoring things from the virus vault.

It's been piss poor with all of the false positives.. Not going to be using AVG any longer when I get the new computer up and running.. it's cried wolf so many times, I no longer believe anything it says.
 
harsaphes said:
while i dont want to argue with anyone, based on the above mentioned web site, http://www.av-comparatives.org/ if you go to the "Report" section AVG is awarded three stars in the "Advanced+" along with the other mentioned products. I have no loyalty to AVG but I wouldnt say it sucked after reading the report either.
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Keep reading them..go back over time....it's the overall performance over time that counts. Most recent one was only "advanced"...a couple before that it tanked twice with a failure (May 07 and Nov 06)..totally gray result, 2x Adv+ out of the past 8..and out of those 8..2x failures?
 
3991vhtes said:
AVG, as some other's have mentioned - sucks.

I use McAfee, and it hasn't let me down yet.
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McAfee lets us down almost everyday here at work. Most times its a new variant that they dont detect or its total engine failure. Please look at something else besides paying for nothing.
 
McAfee is horrible. I would not recommend it at all. I would even recommend using it if it was given to you for free. It's just that bad. Go with NOD32 and you're set.
 
I used to recommend AVG and installed it on lot's of family computers... Well - it came back and bit me. Family member called me all scared because her bank accounts were fraudulantly accessed. Checked AVG, no reports - forced complete scan -- all good - nothing seemed amiss. Given the bank did call, I said hey let's be safe and try AVIRA. Low and behold... couple of trojans were installed...

Won't be using or recommending AVG anymore and now need to go back to everyone and get them off it. First time I've ever seen a virus/trojan that actually resulted in a real life hack. (Have defended against several hundred enterprise attacks but never had a machine be infected and thus the source).
 
jeepfun said:
I used to recommend AVG and installed it on lot's of family computers... Well - it came back and bit me. Family member called me all scared because her bank accounts were fraudulantly accessed. Checked AVG, no reports - forced complete scan -- all good - nothing seemed amiss. Given the bank did call, I said hey let's be safe and try AVIRA. Low and behold... couple of trojans were installed...

Won't be using or recommending AVG anymore and now need to go back to everyone and get them off it. First time I've ever seen a virus/trojan that actually resulted in a real life hack. (Have defended against several hundred enterprise attacks but never had a machine be infected and thus the source).
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all it takes is IE and virus defs that havent updated to get infected. All these guys already have trojans and malware lined up to avoid detection. Once one company picks up on it, they replace it with one that wont be detected. Todays AV is going the way of the HD-DVD. HIDS and HIPS such as CSA or some form of MD5 hashes of all the files on the system is about the only truly secure way for windows boxes.
 
jeepfun said:
I used to recommend AVG and installed it on lot's of family computers... Well - it came back and bit me. Family member called me all scared because her bank accounts were fraudulantly accessed. Checked AVG, no reports - forced complete scan -- all good - nothing seemed amiss. Given the bank did call, I said hey let's be safe and try AVIRA. Low and behold... couple of trojans were installed...

Won't be using or recommending AVG anymore and now need to go back to everyone and get them off it. First time I've ever seen a virus/trojan that actually resulted in a real life hack. (Have defended against several hundred enterprise attacks but never had a machine be infected and thus the source).
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Time to start looking for actual reviews of security programs that you use now, eh?
 
I just switched from Norton at home, to NOD32 SS trial because I had a virus that Norton couldn't get rid of, I don't even know how I got it. I ran a scan with NOD32 it found the virus but failed to quarantine it and purge it from my system. It was was of those guys that embeds itself in the system restore volume. The funny part is that I immediately disable system restore when first do a clean install...

Anyways I just restored from fresh install image and reinstalled NOD32, so far its been running beautifully. I am thinking about getting the 2 year deal for 2 computers, of the Smart Security its like 100 bucks so 25 a year per comp and hopefully I will be able to forget about these kind of problems.

I have seen to many bad things with AVG on my clients computers. It misses way too much stuff. But hey it just more money in my pocket when I have to fix their computers lol. When it comes to computer security I would never trust a free program.
 
+1 for NOD32. I had Kaspersky (came with my mobo) and I absolutely despised it. It came up with some things that I knew for a fact weren't viruses, and the annoying squeeling noise it made when it found something was ridiculous. NOD32 is incredibly fast at scanning, and the UI is really easy, IMO. Plus it has such a small footprint.
 
AVG always gave me false positives. Watched it delete my C&C3 executable at least a half dozen times. Avast has been pretty good to me. I will have to check out AVIRA though because it is definitely solid protection based on av-comparatives.org.

-V
 
Proteos said:
+1 for NOD32. I had Kaspersky (came with my mobo) and I absolutely despised it. It came up with some things that I knew for a fact weren't viruses, and the annoying squeeling noise it made when it found something was ridiculous. NOD32 is incredibly fast at scanning, and the UI is really easy, IMO. Plus it has such a small footprint.
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I think Avira actually scans faster, FWIW
 
Symantec sucks, AVG sucks, McAfee sucks.

If you want free, go Avira (strictly antivirus with active protection) or Avast! (whole bundle, email, spyware, active scanning, etc). Avira also has a pay-for one I'm currently using. It has all the extras at no performance hit.

I think Avast and Avira Premium are almost the same on performance hit, Avira might be slightly less.

Everytime I got to ask or someone else asks about antivirus, Nod32 wins hands down. I have a thread going with a poll.
 
I like NOD32, but I'd take Avira over it. I rolled out NOD32 3.0 at work and it has been quite problematic. Very slow. I wanted to buy Avira, but they never responded to me so we bought what I would say is currently the inferior product.
 
dandragonrage said:
I like NOD32, but I'd take Avira over it. I rolled out NOD32 3.0 at work and it has been quite problematic. Very slow. I wanted to buy Avira, but they never responded to me so we bought what I would say is currently the inferior product.
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You probably have it configured wrong. I know I messed up a few servers with some bad configuration settings when I first started using it. We have it installed at our office and about a dozen different clients with between 5-150 users without issue once I got all the kinks worked out on the first few installs.
 
No, I do not have it configured wrong unless, for example, having the email scanner enabled is "wrong."

There are many reports of it being slow.

I turned off the email scanner, relying on the file system scanner (not a big deal) but it still slows down some of our less powerful boxes quite a bit.
 
Have you tried contacting ESET or your reseller for support? I have never noticed any slowdown using NOD32. Most of our clients have commented on how much faster their systems are since we removed Symantec and installed NOD.

I wasn't trying to be a dick when I said it may be configured wrong. Some of the initial configuration can be daunting due to the sheer number of configuration options there are. Have you tried just pushing out a new configuration with just the default settings?
 
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