ATI Next Gen Cards?

[Mabrito]

When will the the next series of cards come out from ATI. End of the year, during the summer. Im sure no one knows, so when do you think ATI will release them? Im sure this has been asked many time, but I did search and couldnt find anything.

 

[Jesus_Faction]

im sure ati cant even be sure

 

[Scali]

If all is well, the new XBox 360 will be released in May. And if all is well, it will be using the next generation ATi GPU (R520 or something to that effect).
So if all is well, the PC cards will probably follow shortly after. I wouldn't be surprised if MS made a deal with ATi to launch the XBox before the new PC cards, so the XBox can have the maximum possible impact on launch.
Apple made a similar deal with NVIDIA back in the GeForce4 days, if I'm not mistaken.
For a month or so, Apples were the only computers with GF4s.

So I'd say the new ATi cards will probably be here around Summer.

 

[WanTeD]

What I'm worried about is how much will they cost

 

[Mauli]

god, what else are they going to crank out??

Seriously, remember the launch of the x800 series... it was amazing, literally twice as good as anything that came out before.. what are they going to do now??? Gosh, i love this business!

 

[Mabrito]

If all is well, the new XBox 360 will be released in May. And if all is well, it will be using the next generation ATi GPU (R520 or something to that effect).
So if all is well, the PC cards will probably follow shortly after. I wouldn't be surprised if MS made a deal with ATi to launch the XBox before the new PC cards, so the XBox can have the maximum possible impact on launch.
Apple made a similar deal with NVIDIA back in the GeForce4 days, if I'm not mistaken.
For a month or so, Apples were the only computers with GF4s.

So I'd say the new ATi cards will probably be here around Summer.

What, the new XBOX is getting shown on MTV during May, not released. The new XBOX will not be releaed until fall.

 

[Scali]

What, the new XBOX is getting shown on MTV during May, not released. The new XBOX will not be releaed until fall.

Got any links to back that up?
Not that it matters though... if they can show it, apparently the ATi chip is ready.

 

[jebo_4jc]

Got any links to back that up?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=7988

Not that it matters though... if they can show it, apparently the ATi chip is ready.

So if all is well, the PC cards will probably follow shortly after. I wouldn't be surprised if MS made a deal with ATi to launch the XBox before the new PC cards, so the XBox can have the maximum possible impact on launch.

You seem to be contradicting yourself. You say that the ATi chip is ready, so we will be seeing it this summer after the XBox 2 announcement, but then you say that we probably won't see it until after the 360 is released, which will be this fall.

In any event, I'm personally going to buy the x800xl AGP now.....I've waited long enough, and the real "bargain" parts probably won't come out until the 2nd iteration of the products (i.e. the x800 xl came out 6 months after the x800 was released).

 

[Scali]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=7988
You seem to be contradicting yourself. You say that the ATi chip is ready, so we will be seeing it this summer after the XBox 2 announcement, but then you say that we probably won't see it until after the 360 is released, which will be this fall.

Not really...
I still assumed that the PC cards will arrive at the same time, so after the XBox announcement then, rather than the actual release.
What I meant is, in either scenario, MS gets to boast "state of the art graphics", because the XBox will be able to flex its muscles in public before the PC cards can.
If the PC cards are actually available to the public before the XBox, that's no longer relevant. MS has already made the visual impact that they wanted. Most people will associate XBox with "state of the art graphics".

 

[Erasmus354]

Wow Scali,. you are sorely misinformed my friend.

It has been well established that the next XBOX will not be released until about November (The usual time for any new console release barring the psp...release it in time for the holiday rush). It has also been somewhat established that the R520 will be available for PC around June or July, this means that the PC card is out before the next XBOX. ATi should be publicly releasing info about the R520 sometime during E3 (or a little before or after).

I cba right now to find you all the links, but they are there if you bother to do a little reading instead of spouting off that load of BS.

 

[Sparrow_69]

Ati release the new generation of cards VS actually being able to get one is VERY different.

 

[Hate_Bot]

Im hoping they are available in june...

 

[Mabrito]

Hmmm....Now some people are saying they are being released this summer. God I hope E3 clears this up, everyone has diffrent opnions on when they are being released.

 

[Hate_Bot]

Hmmm....Now some people are saying they are being released this summer. God I hope E3 clears this up, everyone has diffrent opnions on when they are being released.

Im talking about the R520, the next Xbox is in november (sweet, my bday is in november, best gaming month)

 

[Mabrito]

I know what you were talking about. I really dont care about the XBOX 2. Im done with consoles, PC games are the only games I enjoy now. But still if the cards with the R520's in them are released during the summer, thats going to be sweet, because I really need to replace my X600

 

[Scali]

Wow Scali,. you are sorely misinformed my friend.

I am most certainly not your friend.

It has been well established that the next XBOX will not be released until about November (The usual time for any new console release barring the psp...release it in time for the holiday rush). It has also been somewhat established that the R520 will be available for PC around June or July, this means that the PC card is out before the next XBOX. ATi should be publicly releasing info about the R520 sometime during E3 (or a little before or after).

You are sorely late.
Like I said, MS is going to show off XBox first, then they're going on sale for PCs...

I cba right now to find you all the links, but they are there if you bother to do a little reading instead of spouting off that load of BS.

Oh please, get a grip. The only thing I didn't know was that the XBox was going to be released so long after the public introduction... If you replace 'release' with 'public introduction', everything I said is still valid.
Heck, why do you even bother to post, after people had already corrected it before?
Perhaps you didn't know either, and just feel like flaming. It's not hard to pretend you knew all along when someone else already posted the links.

 

[Erasmus354]

I am most certainly not your friend.



You are sorely late.
Like I said, MS is going to show off XBox first, then they're going on sale for PCs...



Oh please, get a grip. The only thing I didn't know was that the XBox was going to be released so long after the public introduction... If you replace 'release' with 'public introduction', everything I said is still valid.
Heck, why do you even bother to post, after people had already corrected it before?
Perhaps you didn't know either, and just feel like flaming. It's not hard to pretend you knew all along when someone else already posted the links.

That would be the case if the little 30 minute presentation on MTV was going to actually show a whole lot of "flexing its graphics muscle". Until that airs, we have no idea what microsoft will be unveiling at that time. For all we know it could be bill gates playing Xbox1 talking about how much he likes chocolate covered peanuts, and at the end they show an xbox2 logo. The fact of the matter is, a prelaunch showcase is not nearly the same as a release. The cards will be out for PC before the new xbox comes out (barring any mishaps on the part of ATi). This means that PC users will have their hands on a real working R520 much before anyone has their hands on an Xbox2.

 

[{NG}Fidel]

Dont be a fool man (I am saying it in a joking way)
While none of us know for sure what they will be showing I think we can all assume wiht pretty high predictions that it will be showing its grahpics muscle.

 

[jebo_4jc]

Here is some good information on R520 from ceBit. One of the interesting things is that it "most probably" won't be available in AGP form. While I'm sure there will still be enough demand for AGP cards at that point to warrant bridging r520 to AGP, think about how long that process took for us to get an agp version of the x800 xl......

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Cebit2005/Day4/5

My 2 cents:
1. Think about upgrading to PCI-E......
or
2. Go ahead with that AGP card upgrade now, as it seems next-gen AGP cards are still a long time off, if ever.

 

[Scali]

That would be the case if the little 30 minute presentation on MTV was going to actually show a whole lot of "flexing its graphics muscle". Until that airs, we have no idea what microsoft will be unveiling at that time.

Well obviously they're going to show *something*... and no doubt they'll be showing it off again at E3 and other events... possibly even with other game developers who already have some demos of upcoming games ready.

The fact of the matter is, a prelaunch showcase is not nearly the same as a release. The cards will be out for PC before the new xbox comes out (barring any mishaps on the part of ATi). This means that PC users will have their hands on a real working R520 much before anyone has their hands on an Xbox2.

Yes, we've already established all of that before you even joined the discussion.