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ASUS Rog Swift 32 inch PG32UCDM with 31.5″ QD-OLED Panel, 4K 240hz

GoldenTiger said:
That big a jump, huh? That sounds crazy. I'm going to have to get an oled monitor then... Getting an RTX 5090 first to drive it though and may wait to see next year's monitor models too :D.

I tend to play a lot of mmorpgs with static ui elements as well as other games with similar, but a 3 year burn in warranty alleviates a lot of my worry. I really am drooling at the motion clarity for mmo pvp and fps games.

Kinda wish they had 4k OLEDs at 27 inch sizes, but that sounds awhile away. I currently use 4k60 on a 28", and a 2560x1600 notebook at 240hz at 16". I love high pixel densities.

Is hdr really that big a deal for games? :eek:. I've heard it is for 4k bluray discs, but I don't have an hdr TV yet... Been debating between a 77" oled or an 85" LCD since I watch a lot of TV and news. That's a whole 'nother can of worms though! :ROFLMAO:
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HDR performance on OLED TVs waaay outclasses HDR performance on OLED monitors. Real scene brightness on TV's vs monitors is anywhere from double to triple the brightness, it's why you see some people talking about returning their OLED monitors and going for a PG32UQX instead.
 
MistaSparkul said:
HDR performance on OLED TVs waaay outclasses HDR performance on OLED monitors. Real scene brightness on TV's vs monitors is anywhere from double to triple the brightness, it's why you see some people talking about returning their OLED monitors and going for a PG32UQX instead.
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I am in that boat. Loved the motion performance of the PG32UCDM, but the lack of HDR impact and brightness really left me missing the PG32UQX.
 
CHCsky said:
I am in that boat. Loved the motion performance of the PG32UCDM, but the lack of HDR impact and brightness really left me missing the PG32UQX.
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For as great as the PG32UQX is, it's only a matter of time before OLED monitors catch up to it in HDR performance so I'll just be upgrading my OLED over time as HDR performance improves. We're only getting 400-500 nits on today's OLEDs but eventually we will get 700-800 nits then 1000+ nits so I'll just upgrade every time there's a significant bump up in HDR brightness. OR another thing that may happen is the OLED TV's getting native 240Hz support, which is highly unlikely for the foreseeable future but hey if that happens first then I would have no issues jumping on a 4K 240Hz OLED TV such as the LG G series or Samsung S95 series as those are already capable of matching the PG32UQX in HDR, they're just missing that sweet sweet 240Hz.
 
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CHCsky said:
I am in that boat. Loved the motion performance of the PG32UCDM, but the lack of HDR impact and brightness really left me missing the PG32UQX.
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What HDR content are you consuming on the monitor where you notice this difference?
 
MistaSparkul said:
For as great as the PG32UQX is, it's only a matter of time before OLED monitors catch up to it in HDR performance so I'll just be upgrading my OLED over time as HDR performance improves. We're only getting 400-500 nits on today's OLEDs but eventually we will get 700-800 nits then 1000+ nits so I'll just upgrade every time there's a significant bump up in HDR brightness. OR another thing that may happen is the OLED TV's getting native 240Hz support, which is highly unlikely for the foreseeable future but hey if that happens first then I would have no issues jumping on a 4K 240Hz OLED TV such as the LG G series or Samsung S95 series as those are already capable of matching the PG32UQX in HDR, they're just missing that sweet sweet 240Hz.
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Agreed! I can't wait for that moment honestly. I am always chasing the best tech in the PC hardware space.
 
CHCsky said:
Anything and everything in SDR and HDR.
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Strange... SDR on my PG32UQX and XG321UG is inferior to my OLED monitors other than text quality. On HDR, I notice the better brightness only on some HDR YouTube videos, and rarely on very few HDR games. The better contrast and motion clarity on the OLED monitors makes a positive difference much more frequently.
 
Bigmonitorguy said:
Strange... SDR on my PG32UQX and XG321UG is inferior to my OLED monitors other than text quality. On HDR, I notice the better brightness only on some HDR YouTube videos, and rarely on very few HDR games. The better contrast and motion clarity on the OLED monitors makes a positive difference much more frequently.
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The motion clarity is def something that will be missed, but the tradeoffs like VRR flicker made some games unusable for me. Capping the Frame rate would help, but defeats the purpose of a 240hz display. I love the direction OLED is going, but for now its back to the PG32UQX.
 
Bigmonitorguy said:
Strange... SDR on my PG32UQX and XG321UG is inferior to my OLED monitors other than text quality. On HDR, I notice the better brightness only on some HDR YouTube videos, and rarely on very few HDR games. The better contrast and motion clarity on the OLED monitors makes a positive difference much more frequently.
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The number of people with a $1500 monitor and no $200 colorimeter is too damn high.
 
JohnnyFlash said:
The number of people with a $1500 monitor and no $200 colorimeter is too damn high.
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I mean for the ASUS monitors it isn't really needed. The PG32UQX I have is so accurate I don't bother with any corrections in SDR mode.

For HDR, other than the ultra-expensive Calman I don't know any that do HDR calibration and generate correction files.
 
Sycraft said:
I mean for the ASUS monitors it isn't really needed. The PG32UQX I have is so accurate I don't bother with any corrections in SDR mode.

For HDR, other than the ultra-expensive Calman I don't know any that do HDR calibration and generate correction files.
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I have to agree here as well. Both my 32UCDM and 32UQX are incredibly accurate.
 
CHCsky said:
I have to agree here as well. Both my 32UCDM and 32UQX are incredibly accurate.
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Mine wasn't. It was heavy green with D65. They tune them to 6500k but not D65 I think. My ProArts were slightly off as well in rec 709 mode.
 
CHCsky said:
VRR flicker made some games unusable
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Can you elaborate a little? :) VRR flicker from refresh rate and fps swings, or from low fps in general?

Re: hdr, is it really a big game changer, or just a nice to have? I've never seen an hdr monitor before. Is the brightness so low you don't really get a noticeable effect, MistaSparkul?

I usually keep monitors a long time, and have no interest in dropping $1200 several times to keep up with oled releases. I'm kind of thinking of going ips 4k 160hz and looking at oled again later. Are the current ones that lackluster? Planning on an RTX 5090 to run something around the end of this year.
 
CHCsky said:
The motion clarity is def something that will be missed, but the tradeoffs like VRR flicker made some games unusable for me. Capping the Frame rate would help, but defeats the purpose of a 240hz display. I love the direction OLED is going, but for now its back to the PG32UQX.
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Yeah. VRR Flicker has been quite the problem for me with the PG32UCDM. It's totally distracting and kind of gave me buyer's remorse for this monitor. The only workaround the worked for me is to give up VRR by disabling G-Sync in the NVCP profile of the games that exhibit the problem (which is any game with mostly dark gray scenes). Strange thing is I never noticed it on the LG C1 OLED and Samsung G8 OLED.

JohnnyFlash said:
Mine wasn't. It was heavy green with D65. They tune them to 6500k but not D65 I think. My ProArts were slightly off as well in rec 709 mode.
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When I got my PG32UCDM, out of curiosity, I measured the factory calibration of the sRGB Cal mode:

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So yeah, I pretty much knew at that point that I had to calibrate that shit:

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Ahh, that's better.....

Worth noting that SDR/sRGB mode of my PG32UCDM seems to have a bit of sRGB color gamut under coverage.
 
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GoldenTiger said:
Can you elaborate a little? :) VRR flicker from refresh rate and fps swings, or from low fps in general?

Re: hdr, is it really a big game changer, or just a nice to have? I've never seen an hdr monitor before. Is the brightness so low you don't really get a noticeable effect, MistaSparkul?

I usually keep monitors a long time, and have no interest in dropping $1200 several times to keep up with oled releases. I'm kind of thinking of going ips 4k 160hz and looking at oled again later. Are the current ones that lackluster? Planning on an RTX 5090 to run something around the end of this year.
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I wanna say it's a matter of perspective. For example, if you've only driven a car that takes 10 seconds to do 0-60mph, then driving a car that can do it in 5 seconds would probably feel mind blowing fast even though overall it really isn't when there are cars that can do it in 2 seconds. So if you've only ever experienced SDR then the move to an OLED with HDR TB400 would probably feel "eye searing" when it really isn't, especially when you consider that OLED TVs are literally hitting up to quadruple the brightness at 1600 nits. Linus even demonstrated that a white piece of printer paper when reflecting sunlight outdoors measures 20,000 nits. People really under estimate the eye's ability to adjust to light. So yeah if you've already experienced HDR with 1000+ nits then your perspective of 400 nits HDR would definitely feel lackluster, but if it's the opposite and you're coming from a pure SDR experience then I'm sure OLED TB400 will be perceived as being plenty bright.
 
As for which OLED monitor to get, I would strongly advise to wait on reviews for the PG32UCDP. I agree with the following reddit post:

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If history repeats itself then Asus will end up delivering the brightest OLED experience with the PG32UCDP. And as HDTVTest stated, the color volume advantage of QD OLED monitors has been rendered a moot point due to how much they are hampered from the factory by Samsung. So if you want the best HDR experience in an OLED monitor then the PG32UCDP seems like it will be it.
 
MistaSparkul said:
As for which OLED monitor to get, I would strongly advise to wait on reviews for the PG32UCDP. I agree with the following reddit post:

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If history repeats itself then Asus will end up delivering the brightest OLED experience with the PG32UCDP. And as HDTVTest stated, the color volume advantage of QD OLED monitors has been rendered a moot point due to how much they are hampered from the factory by Samsung. So if you want the best HDR experience in an OLED monitor then the PG32UCDP seems like it will be it.
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If you’ve been waiting this long, agreed that you might as well wait a few more weeks (allegedly) for the PG32UCDP to come out.

But it’s not a moot point if ASUS has worked around the ABL hampering with their latest firmware update on the PG32UCDM while maintaining reasonable accuracy, since HDTVTest didn’t test against that. In which case the PG32UCDP might still be better purely from a white brightness standpoint, but it might not be quite the blowout (and also considering accuracy.)
 
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I was considering this monitor, but I saw that tftcentral mentioned that dark/shadow detail wasn't great in their review. I'm talking about sdr performance in srgb mode.

Can some of you comment on that please? I don't have an option to try it before purchase.

Shadow detail/no black holes/black crush is one of the deal breakers for me, so I really hope it's not that bad.

The other thing I don't get - if they say it is great in srgb mode and gamma looks good, how can it possibly crush shadow detail? I don't get that...

I'd gladly pay the price, but if it has that problem, oh man..
 
Ray2097 said:
I was considering this monitor, but I saw that tftcentral mentioned that dark/shadow detail wasn't great in their review. I'm talking about sdr performance in srgb mode.
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I live in sRGB and after calibrating it to sRGB in rec 709 mode (which clamps the colour space but still allows brightness adjustment) I have no problems with it. I can see all the squares at 100 nits.

Edit: Rec 709 is for my side monitors, the PG32UCDM just needs the sRGB gamut selected and user color temp calibrated to D65.
 
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Has anyone moved from an LG C1/C2/C3 to this monitor? Am tempted for the 240Hz but from what i can see it is much dimmer in HDR than LG since only 2% is about 1000 nits and from 10% onwards the brightness takes a nosedive with 450-460 nits. Any opinions? Thanks alot.
 
KyHauck196 said:
Brightness is a big one. The perceived brightness on the C series is better. The difference between 120-240 is not as great as people would have you believe. The coating on the C series is the best I've seen, no raised blacks for instance. The TV functionality is nice because it will tell you if Dolby Vision is enabled / HDR. Because of the lower 120hz, VRR flicker isn't much of an issue, if at all. Price too, you can get a C series TV for much cheaper than the pg32ucdm.
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Ok thanks very much for the answer. Mine is the 55 C2 which is used only for gaming. I have a 1440p ips lcd that i use for everyday tasks.
 
Yiorgos said:
Has anyone moved from an LG C1/C2/C3 to this monitor? Am tempted for the 240Hz but from what i can see it is much dimmer in HDR than LG since only 2% is about 1000 nits and from 10% onwards the brightness takes a nosedive with 450-460 nits. Any opinions? Thanks alot.
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Made a similar but not exact move, LG 48CX to MSI 321UPX. Brightness on the QD OLED is indeed dimmer than the 4 year old WOLED with the exception of low APL scenes running in P1000 mode. So unless you are playing a game that is exclusively dark scenes only, the WOLED is going to be brighter. I kept my QD OLED though because for me personally the jump from 120Hz to 240Hz is massive and I have the hardware to achieve more than 120fps in almost everything I play.
 
One thing I hadn't considered moving from 1440p + 2x 1200p to 3x 4K is that I can just put youtube or whatever and firefox on the left monitor when I'm just bullshitting the internet and leave the oled on black.
 
I cleaned the screen and may have scratched the coating on my monitor. FML.
 

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I cleaned the screen and may have scratched the coating on my monitor. FML.
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Oof yeah that QD OLED screen is waaay too fragile IMO. Never had to worry about anything like that on my CX that also has a glossy screen. Glad I don't have to worry about this anymore since I switched to the 32UCDP.
 
I didn’t use any lotion. I am out of ideas at this point and waiting for my distilled water and new cloths to try again.
 
Astral Abyss said:
Man, what grit was that? Sorry man. Maybe you can buff it out?
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lol it wasn’t sandpaper. It was a normal facial tissue and I used it wet. I don’t know what else to try but after a few wipes and stuff this is where I am at.

Looks worse on camera of course.
 

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lol it wasn’t sandpaper. It was a normal facial tissue and I used it wet. I don’t know what else to try but after a few wipes and stuff this is where I am at.

Looks worse on camera of course.
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Looks like just streaks? Can be saved I think, but yeah the fact that these QD OLED glossy coatings are so sensitive and picky about how to be cleaned is really stupid. Never had any issue with my glossy CX, it just cleans super easy. Probably will be avoiding any QD OLED with this finish in the future.
 
For anyone who has this or other ASUS monitors, are you able to set the GameVisual mode per input? I bought the PG32UCDM and expected to be able to have separate settings per input, but it's changing for all. I want to use Racing mode with sRGB for my PC and User mode with Wide Gamut for my MacBook Pro, but I can't find a way to do it.
 
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Lava Lamp Freak said:
For anyone who has this other other ASUS monitors, are you able to set the GameVisual mode per input? I bought the PG32UCDM and expected to be able to have separate settings per input, but it's changing for all. I want to use Racing mode with sRGB for my PC and User mode with Wide Gamut for my MacBook Pro, but I can't find a way to do it.
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Use the two custom configs and just switch manually, takes less than a second.
 
Man, the conversation here on the last page is eye-opening. I'm one of the ones that switched from an OLED to an Asus PG32UQX. It's orders of magnitudes better. Yes, "some" motion clarity and the large screen size is missed, but this screen does everything my OLED was supposed to, and without failing at things that are just supposed to work.

https://hardforum.com/threads/rant-switched-back-to-ips-after-being-on-oled-for-a-year.2037319/
https://hardforum.com/threads/48-lg-c3-oled-vs-the-best-ips.2036445/
 
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