Asrock z77 itx is out

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What water cooling systems have been confirmed to work with this mobo? I'm looking at the SG07/08 so I guess it'd have to fit in that chassis too.

Antec 620 fits with a bit of work to mount the backplate. Works well for me.
 
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nexxusdev

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Got my z77e-itx today, along with 3570k, 7850 power edition, sg05 and a 90gb agility 3. :D I'm new here.
Edit; ohhh and h80
 
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Currently stable at 4.2ghz without any change in voltages. H80 with one GT on push. What overclocks are you guys getting?
 

Marduk77

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Currently stable at 4.2ghz without any change in voltages. H80 with one GT on push. What overclocks are you guys getting?

I'm at 4.2ghz with the 2500k and its rock solid. I didn't change any of the voltages just all on auto. my temps are good, 30-35c idle and 50-55c load on prime95 with an H60. I tried the factory bios OC to 4.4ghz and it would bluescreen just when starting prime95. I could mess with the voltages, but i haven't yet. I'm happy with 4.2ghz and my temps right now to care.
 

j.yonke

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I am at 4.6 ,same as my old MSI board, but I have not had to change anything but vcore. Temps peak in the 70 range with an H60 crammed in a pcq08 with IBT on max.
 

dlewis4

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Antec 620 fits with a bit of work to mount the backplate. Works well for me.

I didnt have to do anything other than this-
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Love this little board!
 

NichoTL

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Looking forward to this, thanks.

Here's the good news. There is CPU voltage adjustment, if coarse (0, +0.05, +0.10, +0.15).

Now here is the really bad news: can't adjust the CPU multiplier up from 34 (on my 3570K). You read this right. I'm guessing it's a decision from Asus to differentiate their boards. Maybe BIOS updates will change this, but as things stand, there is no CPU OCing possible on the P8H77-I. One has to wonder why they even give you CPU voltage adjustment (overvoltage only, not even possible to undervolt!!!).

I'll investigate a little bit more (I only got to play with the BIOS for a few minutes) but this does not look good.
 

DG25

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That's really bad indeed...Thx for the info anyway.

The only other H77 board that i know of is the Intel one, but people report problems on it.
 

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Anyone know of an ITX case that will let you access the mini-PCIe slot on the underside of this board without having to take the board out?
 

JoeUser

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Loving my board so far! Talk about a lot of features in a small package...

Have my 2500k @ 4.5Ghz now with a H70 push/pull. Around ~30C idle and ~60C load...very nice!

For this being my first ITX build I honestly could not be happier with the performance of this board. Every bit as good as my Z68 MSI board I had before it. I mean really, could they have added anything or made this board ANY better than it already is? Because I don't think so!
 

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So, for folks who have used the chassis fan plug for 3-pin control, what do you think about this setup:
- 4 pin Antec Kuhler 620 H2O pump into the CPU header
- 4 pin Antec Kuhler 620 H2O pump into the VGA board mini-pwm header
- 3x 120mm slim sythes branched into the chassis header, controlled through BIOS/whatever.

Think the amperage will work? :D
 

Machupo

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The real question is how much current that header can handle. The kuhler pump uses a max of 3.1W or just under 0.25A
 

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What type of miniSATA cable are you guys using to plug a SSD?

Something like this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186158

That's actually a "slimline Sata" which is a connection type with a reduced number of pins.

I'm guessing since you posted in a motherboard thread, that you mean "mSata" which needs a special type of SSD. For example, here's the normal Crucial m4



and here's the mSata version


It just plugs into the underside of your Z77E-ITX
 

Jungl3

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Awesome, i just screwed up then! :D

First time i'm building a PC and i thought i could plug a Crucial M4 (the one i bought exactly) to the bottom of the Z77E-ITX using some sort of a cable. I guess i was wrong. Oh well...
 

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I am a bit concerned. You can see my thread asking if I should go Asrock or Asus....leaning towards the Asrock for price and features but that poor CPU placement is bugging me a lot.

Has anyone had any issues with CPU coolers/vid card clearance on the Asrock??
 

Plastikman

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I picked up one of these boards up Friday with an i5 3570K at the microcenter sale.
The combo came in at under $300 before taxes. I just could not pass it up.

To finish the build out, I ordered one of the new new SG05's with USB3 and a 450watt PSU, 2x 8GB sticks of Corsair Vengeance LP, 1 Plextor 256gb M3P SSD, Samsung 256gb SSD and a Corsair H60 water cooler from the Egg today.
I cant Wait for the stuff to arrive.

The only thing I am missing now is a Graphics card.

I think I have a GTX 550 or 560 Ti in the spare parts pile i can use for now.


Has anyone tried fitting one of these boards into a Antec ISK 110? i was thinking about getting a second one for a general workstation using just the HD4000
 
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xJeganx

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Picked up this board the other day at Micro Center to go in my Bit Fenix Prodigy build and I am impressed. I actually like it more than my Asus ROG Gene-Z. It boots up much faster than the ROG also.
 

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I run at 4.5ghz and I haven't noticed the VRMs getting hot but I will have to see how it goes after I swap out my relatively high CFM fan from a CM V6 for a Scythe AP14 or something similar. This board has been nothing but perfect for me, boots insanely quickly and it was so easy to OC my 3570K.
 

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I own both right now, and so far I like the ASRock a bit more.
Having said that, it doesn't seem to support UEFI boot thus far, or I just haven't found that option yet.

So keep that in mind, as most of you probably missed that little problem.
 

Synomenon

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What do you mean by "UEFI boot"? It doesn't have a graphical user interface w/ mouse support in the "BIOS" / UEFI like the Asus boards do?
 

ChronoDog

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No, I mean booting from a GPT/GUID partition and/or single partitions larger than 3TB.
The Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe supports that, the ASRock doesn't seem to, or I'm missing the option to do so entirely.
 

xinux

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Does anyone know how fast this boots compared to other boards, like the asus Z77 or asrock z68?
 

ChronoDog

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It boots a lot faster than the Asus Z77, from personal experience.
From pressing the power button to the Windows logo:
Asus Z77 ~8 seconds
ASRock Z77 ~3 seconds
 

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Anyone mind posting their BIOS settings for their overclocks. Any tips would also be welcomed as I will hopefully be overclocking mine this weekend.
 

xinux

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It boots a lot faster than the Asus Z77, from personal experience.
From pressing the power button to the Windows logo:
Asus Z77 ~8 seconds
ASRock Z77 ~3 seconds

Thanks! Woah, that's a pretty big difference.
Did you actually count though? 3 seconds sounds insane.. that would result in a possibly less than 10 seconds boot time for me!

edit: Has anyone compared the ASRock Z77 vs the ASRock Z68?
 

ChronoDog

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Thanks! Woah, that's a pretty big difference.
Did you actually count though? 3 seconds sounds insane.. that would result in a possibly less than 10 seconds boot time for me!

It's very approximate of course, counted with a wall clock, so it could be off by as much as half a second in every direction :rolleyes:
The longest part on the Asus is between pressing the button and the POST messages appearing. It happens near instantly on the ASRock, while on the Asus it may take 3-5 seconds just for it to complete all of the POST self-checks, or whatever it does there before displaying the on-screen messages.

From what I gather, though, the "Shutdown" on the ASRock boards is some sort of Deep Sleep mode, since if unplugged from the wall and re-plugged back, the POST takes 2-3 seconds longer.
 

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I am a bit concerned. You can see my thread asking if I should go Asrock or Asus....leaning towards the Asrock for price and features but that poor CPU placement is bugging me a lot.

Has anyone had any issues with CPU coolers/vid card clearance on the Asrock??

The only reason to get the Asus over the Asrock is if you want to use a tower cooler or want to waste $50. I tested two 3570Ks & a 2600K and both boards got the same overclocks with very similar voltages. What cooler do you plan to use? That's really the only thing that matters.

The Asus itx board has the best layout in my opinion. Easy to wire manage everything.
How? Sure the 8pin is up front on the Asus, but the Sata ports aren't located in the most ideal location. I realize Asus couldn't put them up top due to socket placement, but having owned both boards, I think wire management is about equal.
Edit: I take that back. I forgot about the USB 2.0 & USB 3.0 headers, and they make for messier cable management on the Asus.

I own both right now, and so far I like the ASRock a bit more.
Having said that, it doesn't seem to support UEFI boot thus far, or I just haven't found that option yet.

So keep that in mind, as most of you probably missed that little problem.
I've been booting UEFI/GPT since this board was released. The Asus and Asrock both handle UEFI/GPT installs the exact same way. All you do is hit F11 during bootup then select UEFI DVD or UEFI USB, depending on which method you're using to install the OS. Windows Boot Manager (seen below) is my UEFI partition that boots my Plextor M3. I also added a screenshot showing my C drive is indeed GPT partitioned.

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No, I mean booting from a GPT/GUID partition and/or single partitions larger than 3TB.
The Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe supports that, the ASRock doesn't seem to, or I'm missing the option to do so entirely.
You don't even need a board with UEFI to make a 3TB+ drive GPT unless you're trying to boot off it. You convert it with diskpart and even if someone wanted to boot off a 3TB+ drive, the Asrock can do it.

It boots a lot faster than the Asus Z77, from personal experience.
From pressing the power button to the Windows logo:
Asus Z77 ~8 seconds
ASRock Z77 ~3 seconds

Yes, and this doesn't take into account all the extra time it takes for the monitor to turn on (post) with the Asus board.

Cold boot times
Asrock 15 seconds
Asus 25 seconds
 
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ChronoDog

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I've been booting UEFI/GPT since this board was released. The Asus and Asrock both handle UEFI/GPT installs the exact same way. All you do is hit F11 during bootup then select UEFI DVD or UEFI USB, depending on which method you're using to install the OS. Windows Boot Manager (seen below) is my UEFI partition that boots my Plextor M3. I also added a screenshot showing my C drive is indeed GPT partitioned.

You're right, I've just found what caused it - the Asus lets you "UEFI boot" from any drive or partition, the ASRock shows the UEFI option only for MBR-FAT32 or GPT/GUID-anything drives :)
 

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Sorry but I am new to this UEFI Boot....what is it?

Quoting Sean Webster from over@ OCN - http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds#
Benefits of a UEFI/GPT boot disk vs. MBR:
Although not currently applicable to SSDs, GPT disks can exceed the 2.2TB bootable limit of a MBR partitioned drive. MBR drives are limited to four partition table entries, unless a secondary "extended" partition structure is created.
Data critical to platform operation is located in partitions, and not in un-partitioned or "hidden" sectors which in certain instances, can lead to system instability. Data contained in hidden sectors that result in system problems are difficult to debug.
GPT disks use primary and backup partition tables for redundancy and 32-bit cyclic redundancy check (CRC32) fields for improved partition data structure integrity.
A UEFI boot is more secure, and less vulnerable to pre-boot malware.
A system utilizing a UEFI boot, will boot and recover from sleep faster than the same machine using MBR.
UEFI is the future, and as different implementations of UEFI mature, UEFI will be used for much more than just booting a computer
 

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I'm having a bit of a trouble picking a decent CPU cooler that doesn't override the Z77E-ITX's PCIe slot.

Any suggestions up to 80mm? Thanks!
 
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