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Archos 70 / 101

Looks that way unless you have a mifi unit or if your phone can broadcast in infrastructure mode.
 
but you've tested the usb and pan right? lol cause if it doesn't work for you, i'd be really hesitant to buy it.
 
Thanks for reminding me. I can't test because i live in a blind spot, but i do get the Phone icon in the corner when i tried connecting the phone via USB cable.

Unfortunately, the 3G modem (It's a USB modem that looks like a big thumbdrive, not a phone) didn't work.

How do i test for PAN?

I assume that Bluetooth Tethering is Archos<->Phone, and Bluetooth PAN is Archos<->PC?
 
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Awesome, I had no idea they made a 10" model. I'll have to look into this for sure. And here I've been holding out for the ASUS EEE tablets.


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I took a look and didn't see anything indicating whether or not it'll accept SD cards. I don't feel 8GB of memory is worth the extra $50-60 considering I've got 8 and 16GB cards sitting unused in my computer desk right now.

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Never mind, found out while reading reviews it does support MicroSD cards up to 32GB.
 
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THis is by far the most interesting part of the Archos tablets...

"Possibilities beyond Android&#8482; with the &#8216;Dual OS&#8217;
Just like a PC, the ARCHOS 101 internet tablet can be freely programmed in alternative ways. This gives developers programming options in addition to the applications that can be created for the Android platform. To have total control of your Internet Tablet, ARCHOS has opened up this device, thus allowing creative minds to program their own tablet, or create what could be the tablet of the future.

ARCHOS has decided to « open » its ARCHOS 101 internet tablet by proposing to install and replace the system running Android originally installed on the machine.

Developers and programmers can choose for the operating system running under Linux distribution Ångström.

Developers can install this OS on an ARCHOS 101 internet tablet and join the Linux community which is developing a new interface, new icons, drivers, programs ... dedicated to this platform.

Skilled developers and programmers can now choose to switch over to a true standard Linux environment as offered by the Ångström Linux distribution. Developers can put this on their ARCHOS 101 internet tablet devices and join other enthusiasts who are experimenting with various ideas and interfaces based on the Linux operating system.

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This suggests that Angstrom, MeeGo and other OSes will be able to be installed without a lot of hacking around and fouling up. For the moment, the 10.1 is one of the top devices I'm thinking of picking up before the end of the year, though the Nook color is also on the table. My only concerns with the Archos reside in the display and possibly processor.

The display looks like it has a good resolution but I wonder if it is 1) capable of at least iPad-level multitouch sensing and 2) IPS and LED backlit. I could deal without IPS, but it needs to have at least the kind of color, brightness and quality from typical LED backlit displays today.

The processor is only a concern of mine because I'm still unsure how the ARM vs Intel Atom war is going to play out in the long run for netbooks and the like. The Cortex A8 is surprisingly powerful - my Maemo-running Nokia N900 is powered by one and especially when overclocked I've found it feels more responsive than some of the old netbooks I've used. I know there will always be some support for ARM through Debian Linux, MeeGo, Android and the like but if too many devices are powered by Atoms then for compatibility's sake a lot of better software will head over there. Being x86 (though sadly not x64), you can run platforms compiled for desktop use on them easily, rather than having to find specific ARM versions. Still not sure how this is going to play out, but for $300 or less it may not be worth worrying about - the current 10.1 price point of the Archos.
 
The display is its main weakness. It's just a normal tft. Whch means it can only be viewed from three directions. On laptops, the side with the blind spot is pointed down. Try holding you laptop upside down, that's the archos 101.

The good news is that since the os doesn't care which way you hold it, if you need a different giewing angle and the blind spot is in the way, just hold it upside down to get the same viewing angle as a laptop.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHX7RNyfjoQ

Not quite there yet, i'm hoping they come out with RDP specifically designed for slates. The screen is big enough so there's really no need for the pan function. I'm hoping they can use the windows native touch interface in the future. At the moment, it's just emulating the mouse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvLzPSTpNJA

The file system absolutely demolishes the one on the iOS.

Streaming isn't just limited to videos. Every App on the Archos has full access to your entire network. So you can leave your ebooks, comic, MKV's, etc. on your home server and not bother with Cables, Video converters, or even copying. Just load them directly off the server.

Compare that to the iOS where your ebook readers can't even read each others files. Heck, i even loaded an HTML off my IIS server into a text editor.
 
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axan said:
getting the 101 as soon as it's on sale on amazon
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That reminds me, is the 101 even for sale at this time? I looked around really quick and didn't see it any of the places I usually shop online.
 
Right now it's mostly the ones that preordered that are getting it. Our local distributor said his next few shipments are already reserved. So I don't think it's gonna be available at retail for a while yet.

Ps: I got mine by looking up our archos distributors number on their site and got put on the waiting list. I wasn't even aware they were allowed to do that, I thought the retailers got first dibs.
 
i'm really surprised ther weren't more 'big name' manufacturers who had their tablets launch now, and in time for Black Friday.

Waiting for the 101 to stock in Amazon as well.
 
So I was at Sears Friday and grabbed the Viewsonic G Tablet. Awesome hardware crippled by a horrible UI. If only they'd just left Android as-is it'd have been an awesome tablet. I was able to get flash working and side loaded LauncherPro to make it usable, but out of the box it's complete garbage all due to that stupid TapnTap. Also, it does NOT come with flash or a marketplace out of the box, despite what the box actually says. Viewsonic claims online that those will be added by mid-december. At best it's a beta product, but IMO it's not even that. One last thing, the hardware is top notch except the screen. Viewing angles suck except straight on. I'd already decided to take it back, but this morning when I restored it to factory settings I noticed it's not even charging. Back to the store it goes!
 
Simply put, tegra just isn't ready yet. The hardware is good, but it'll only work if overhauled by the user (user friendly they aren't).

The only viable slates out now are from samsung and archos, and they aren't even in the same category. One is a premium phone tablet and the other is a low cost multimedia tablet.

The archos as been a pleasure to use so far, especially with the connectivity features (galaxy tab can't browse your network as confirmed when I asked some of the owners). This a device that's been designed to run on a home network.
 
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Simply put, tegra just isn't ready yet. The hardware is good, but it'll only work if overhauled by the user (user friendly they aren't).

The only viable slates out now are from samsung and archos, and they aren't even in the same category. One is a premium phone tablet and the other is a low cost multimedia tablet.

The archos as been a pleasure to use so far, especially with the connectivity features (galaxy tab can't browse your network as confirmed when I asked some of the owners). This a device that's been designed to run on a home network.
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I'll add that the Viewsonic G Tablet had the option to map network drives, but I wasn't able to get it working in the time I had it. Then again I think I mucked up my share settings so it's entirely possible it was my own fault.

Also, Sears has a 15% restocking fee if you return a device. However, in my case it was defective since it didn't do what it was supposed to out of the box and they sent it back to the factory---which I feel is exactly what should have happened. I cannot believe they put on the box that it had Flash and a Marketplace and shipping it without either. Those are HUGE critical features for the usability of the device and they outright lied on the box. Bad Viewsonic! Bad!
 
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Played iwth the g tablet at staples this afternoon. it got the update they promised all right. TnT is still shit, no flash, but they did add a market. However, get this, you still have to side-load the apps. That's right you put in your email, buy the app, then get a download link. No direct downloads without jumping through hoops.They're really fighting to make this a product people don't want to buy.
 
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g tablet is not as good as the archos 101 :p
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I saw a G tablet in a Staples this weekend and was THIS close to buying one and this morning I get the email that my HP Slate as shipped. The Lord works in mysterious ways indeed.:)
 
Nice. Let us know how it goes. Especially the handwriting. Trying it out on the desktop, they actually made handwriting a viable input method.
 
Thanks and definately. Handwriting in Windows has been practical since XP Tablet PC edition and has gotten a good better in Vista and now 7, it's MUCH faster and easier to me than a touchscreen keyboard overall and it is THE reason I wanted the Slate as handwriting has become an input method that I use more and more especially as OneNote has progressed, a good deal of my notes are handwirtten blurbs that I keep as handwirting.

Touch only slates are useful and obvisouly the iPad is slick but pens are what make slates useful for productive purposes and a pure touch interface simply isn't productive IMHO.
 
Yeah, I looked at the Slate, but it's not what I'm looking for really. I just want something for casual games on the couch or in the car, web surfing, and checking the email. On the go I want to have all my D&D PDFs and some movies. Nothing major, just some lightweight media consumption. The only requirement I have is that it be capable of tethering/piggybacking off my iPhone's data connection if need be.
 
With the rooting of the Nook Color, and that opening up what could potentially turn into another tablet altogether (even if Barnes & Noble didn't want it to happen) that's another possibility that shouldn't be dismissed.

While I like the Archos 70, I've actually used a Nook Color and I have to say I love the form factor and the higher resolution seemingly better quality screen. If a rooted Nook Color can do the tasks that I want done, then it could be the next big item I get. I know for a fact the Wife wants one for Christmas, just not sure if I can manage the cost before that rolls around but I'm trying. ;)
 
Nook is 800Mhz, 480p (h264 is also glitchy), no bluetooth, no USB, no camera, no hdmi, mono speaker, thicker, heavier (almost as heavy as the Archos 101 even tho it's a 7").

Archos is specifically designed to access your media (PDF, AVI, MKV, FLAC, MP3, CBR, MKV, etc.) anywhere on your network. If the ebook is in another PC, any apps run on the archos can go through the network and load it directly.


The nook is an ebook reader that can also be used as a tablet. The archos is a general tablet that can also be used as an ebook reader. Use whatever fits your needs.
 
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just got an email from amazon my archos 101 is shipping Thursday.
 
Sly: Yeah, I know, I'm just pointing it out as something that has potential... :)

It's the best looking eBook reader in my opinion so far, and after having used it in my hands for a bit, when compared to significantly larger devices like the Samsung Galaxy Tab and probably even the Archos 70, it's pretty awesome for what they've packed into that very slick and light form factor.

For the basics of what BobSutan just mentioned - some casual games (Android, of course), web surfing, checking email, reading PDFs (which apparently the Nook Color really excels at according to reviews I've read), and light media playback (creating videos for the Nook Color with HandBrake is almost idiot proof), it's most definitely a device that would suit those requirements.

No offense to Archos, but what bugs me the most about them is the fact that I can't get an Archos 70 anywhere local, whereas I could go out in a few hours and get a Nook Color - they're in stock at any of the 3 B&N stores here in Vegas/Henderson, or the 2 Best Buys as well. I know Best Buy does stock some Archos products, but they don't have any of the new Gen 8 products by Archos in retail locations and I don't know when that might happen.

Having said all that, I know it's an Archos 70/101 thread so I apologize for the somewhat off-topic mention of similar devices like the Nook Color (just because it's been rooted).
 
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Yeah, I looked at the Slate, but it's not what I'm looking for really. I just want something for casual games on the couch or in the car, web surfing, and checking the email. On the go I want to have all my D&D PDFs and some movies. Nothing major, just some lightweight media consumption. The only requirement I have is that it be capable of tethering/piggybacking off my iPhone's data connection if need be.
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Actually the Slate is a very good fit for these activities though it is weak on the touch gaming side but there are a number of decent games out there, Planets vs Zombies, Monkey Island and a other games that while not designed for touch screens work well with them.

As a web browser and media player it should be pretty strong and email with Outlook or even web based clients works great.
 
We just got the Froyo update and installed flash. The firmware update says flash isn't in it.

The thing is, it'll be another 2 weeks before they get the go ahead from adobe to include the 10.1 apk in the firmware. But it's supposed to be able to run.

So what else? We got the apk anyway and sideloaded it. It's the same APK that's supposed to go in later. As i've said before, it's optional so if you don't want it, don't tap the placeholder.

Flash + HTML is indeed questionable especially when you scroll around a lot. However, Pure Flash sites, pwn Pure HTML sites. It's amazing how smooth flash is, while the HTML one is practically stop motion.
 
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So, Sly, have you noticed anything positive so far about the Froyo update? I'm looking at ArchosFans forums at the moment and all I see is a lot of whining and complaints already, some even saying the Sleep mode is broken on their Gen 8 devices which if true is going to be a huge problem.

Got anything positive to say about this update? More responsive, more laggy, which way is it falling so far? :D
 
No idea yet, I just spent all night trying to figure out how to get smb running again. Seems some that got it to work weren't using passwords on their pc. Windows only let's you access if you enter a password, how do you keep it from doing that?
 
Yeah, all my shared folders has "Everyone" on it, but all my PC's still ask for a user login, which is that PC's local user account.

I'm thinking that because some people had trouble setting up passwords on their PC's, they then took out the ability to login on 2.2 altogether, that means the ones that do use passwords can't get it anymore. I have to make windows not require a password somehow.

That's something i haven't actually successfully done since XP. Because windows has everything passworded to your account by default, i found it easier to just leave a simple password. Now, until they get this fixed, i'll have to take it out.
 
In Windows 7, all accounts you wish to share in any manner over any protocols or networks will require a password on the accounts, unless you're using the HomeGroup feature which makes that a lot simpler. Obviously using a tablet device isn't going to work that way unless it's running Windows 7... <Slate, Slate, Slate... > :D

But as for SMB stuff, man I tell ya Microsoft did a number on that one.
 
Hmmm.... In Windows 7 there's an option to specically bypass needing a password isn't there? Since I'm in an all Windows 7 environment at home these days and use Homegroups this type of stuff is like a distant memory but I would think that if you're using Windows 7 that the public sharing option should do what you want.
 
The "public" sharing is a bit of a misnomer - it just means "public" in the sense of the computers already recognized on the network and in the same HomeGroups. In the long run, again, if you're trying to access a Windows 7-based machine (an assumption here since I don't recall Sly specifically saying that's his OS currently), you're not going to get "normal" access to anything without an account to authorize with and a password on that account.

I could be wrong if someone knows more (and that's a likely scenario) but in my experience of late with multiple devices and even Ubuntu using SMB, without that password on the account you're not going to get access to much of anything.
 
Not sure exactly what I did but I was messing around with the advanced sharing settings when the smb started working again. Thing is, I have no idea if that actually fixed it or it was something I did earlier that just took a while to take effect. I never touched that panel when I was still using 2.1 so something must have changed in 2.2.

Now the only issue is have is the subtitles. It's like they were using an older player. They included the wrong video player, or they took the easy way and just put in an older ones rather than take the trouble to remove ac3.

Anyway I'll be making another video showing flash and comparing it to html. Anything you guys want to see? Like a flash site or a specific comparison?
 
Sure! How about Youtube and Geforce.com? I'd like to compare this to the HP Slate. Thanks!
 
Not sure what you mean by the subtitles thing, and the AC3 plugin costs money, iirc (same plugin handles the MPEG2 decoding as well). Seems kinda lame but, with the licensing for MPEG2/AC3 crap I guess that's how they are required to distribute it.

I'm still considering an Archos 70 maybe, but that Nook Color and the rooting is really coming on fast, like within the past 36 hours it's been steamrolling downhill and gaining momentum all the way down. :D

I spent some time reading ArchosFans earlier and it seems A LOT of people are absolutely unhappy with the Froyo update for these Gen 8 devices, so I have to wonder... did Archos shove it out the door on the last day of November just because they said it would be out "by the end of November" and to keep people happy or, did they actually do serious testing with this release 'cause people sure are complaining about it rather consistently over there.
 
Apparently they overhauled the samba code so it really is a different one from 2.1.

There's a bug with certain combinations of codecs and subtitles not displaying properly on the original player that was fixed. It's like they rolled back to that one.
 
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