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Apple EULA - Virtualize OS X

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Silver565

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I'm looking at a mac pro so that i can legitimately virtualize OS X.

From what I understand:

Apple hardware must be used as the host(which is easy enough)
Only OS X 10.5-10.8 can be virtualized as server edition
Only OS X 10.7-10.8 can be virtualized as client edition
The installable has to be retail
ESXi 5.1 is needed for 10.8

Apple don't seem to know anything about their own EULA and it's really starting to do my head in as sites seem to have conflicting information.

Does anyone know what you can and can't virtualize? And if there is a limit to VMs per host?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
2 VMs per host, at least with 10.8.

The license assumes you are running the VMs on an OS X host. I'm not sure if it's different for the server version.
 
CEpeep said:
2 VMs per host, at least with 10.8.

The license assumes you are running the VMs on an OS X host. I'm not sure if it's different for the server version.
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Yep, Just spoke to apple(after waiting days to find someone who knew anything about it). I'm going to dump this project. 2 VMs per host is a complete waste of money and resources :mad:
 
May i ask why you wanted to virtualize Mac OS X?? I even think they killed off the server version.
 
Poplap said:
May i ask why you wanted to virtualize Mac OS X?? I even think they killed off the server version.
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It's for our development team. We've managed to get away with one iMac in the office for a while, but we really need a lot of environments for testing now
 
How about VMWare Fusion ? I use that for the beta versions of OS X before hitting hardware. Running also on my iMac.
 
Silver565 said:
Yep, Just spoke to apple(after waiting days to find someone who knew anything about it). I'm going to dump this project. 2 VMs per host is a complete waste of money and resources :mad:
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$29 for two VMs isn't a bad deal at all, at least compared to virtualizing Windows. If you need more VMs you can always buy more licenses to the OS.
 
CEpeep said:
$29 for two VMs isn't a bad deal at all, at least compared to virtualizing Windows. If you need more VMs you can always buy more licenses to the OS.
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Yes, but you can only have 2 VMs per physical host. If I want 4 VMs I have to buy two Mac mini's. And so on...
 
Silver565 said:
Yes, but you can only have 2 VMs per physical host. If I want 4 VMs I have to buy two Mac mini's. And so on...
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2 VMs per host per license. If you need more VMs, purchase more licenses. There's no hard limit on the number of VMs per host, only the number of VMs per license.
http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/OSX108.pdf

Part 2.B is applicable to each license you purchase from Apple through the Mac App Store.

Also, licenses purchased under Apple's Volume Licensing program are subject to Part 2.C instead. If you are working on some sort of large-scale deployment, you may be able to contact Apple for more options.
 
If this were personal use, you could just patch the SMC infos into the vmx binary. But alas, businesses might have more stringent requirements to adhere to the letter of the license, however nonsensical it might seem.
 
Its identical to windows 2012 server standard vm setup. 1 physical machine 2 vm licenses.
 
"to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software
within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is
already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b) testing
during software development; (c) using OS X Server; or (d) personal, non-commercial use"

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I read that as 2 VMs per physical mac computer
 
It says "up to 2 ADDITIONAL lisences", not limit 2 licenses per physical machine. Each license allows you to have 2 additional vms running
 
Which is what I thought, however, I called apple, who told me otherwise. Could it be that I've spoken to an idiot?
 
Just spoke to apple again. I managed to get through to someone who was very helpful. I ended up on a 3 way conference call, and they all then went away and got back to me the next day.

Result? 2 VMs per mac host. He seemed to hint that it may change in the future, but for now I'm stuck with a lot of mac minis...
 
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