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Apple Air vs. ASUS Eee PC

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A feature by feature comparison of the ASUS Eee PC and the Apple Air can be found here. Pretty interesting article for anyone in the market for a truly portable PC.

Here is where the Eee clearly triumphs over the Air. For a smaller, albeit less powerful, computer, you end up spending at least $1300 less for the Eee than you would for the Air. The Eee is clearly a much better value, especially if you only need basic computing capabilities in an ultra-portable format.
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bad comparison. Apples and EEE's.

hahahaha get it? Apples and Oranges.. Apples and EEE's..

:p

I didn't read it yet.. lemme go read it
 
love my eeepc :) i couldn't give two shits about whether it fits in a large envelope. it does what i need it to for a hell of a lot less money.
 
Well for using Word and Firefox... sure, the Eee is a great value, but if you are going to be doing anything else a 900mhz Celeron isn't going to cut it. Comparing a Ferrari to a Vovlo, both get you there but one can do more than the other if you need it. Can't say I like this article or how it's written. Most of his conclusions actually support the Apple laptop (better resolution, better screen size, more powerful, more space).

The size difference is certainly significant, but as I’ve stressed already, the Eee’s purposes are very different than the Air.
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This guy fails his own article. I the Eee a great deal? Hell yeah! But lets compare it with other low-end laptops that people are likely to actually have to decide between.
 
If I drop them both from the roof, only the Mac Air will snap in half like a cracker.

Thus, the Eee PC wins.
 
Of course when next year comes around ASUS won't force first adaptors to shell out more money for apps and features they already paid for but were locked away during manufacture....
 
So Apple kicks its ass in every single category, including booting into both OS X and Windows, and the EEE wins simply because it's cheaper? By that argument, a used 1998 IBM laptop on ebay wins. What nonsense. Only a Linux nerd could see the Apple losing this one.

Besides, it is Apples and Oranges. The Apple is a high-end laptop. The EEE is a no frills cheapo great for a kid's first laptop, but no serious business professional. No comparison.
 
uclajd said:
So Apple kicks its ass in every single category, including booting into both OS X and Windows, and the EEE wins simply because it's cheaper? By that argument, a used 1998 IBM laptop on ebay wins. What nonsense. Only a Linux nerd could see the Apple losing this one.

Besides, it is Apples and Oranges. The Apple is a high-end laptop. The EEE is a no frills cheapo great for a kid's first laptop, but no serious business professional. No comparison.
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The Apple won't fit in my wife's purse.

The end
 
uclajd said:
So Apple kicks its ass in every single category, including booting into both OS X and Windows, and the EEE wins simply because it's cheaper? By that argument, a used 1998 IBM laptop on ebay wins. What nonsense. Only a Linux nerd could see the Apple losing this one.

Besides, it is Apples and Oranges. The Apple is a high-end laptop. The EEE is a no frills cheapo great for a kid's first laptop, but no serious business professional. No comparison.
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Firstly, it's Apples and EEE's, not Oranges :p

Secondly, EEE's work with Windows as well as Linux. It just comes preinstalled with Linux.

Thirdly, you need to consider it's category. An IBM laptop from 1999 is a cinder block compared to today's notebooks, nevermind the ultra-mobiles. Any antique computers or electronics can be bought cheaper on Ebay or anywhere else. Apple failed in it's category regarding it's price. The article clearly explains you can get a far more powerful Apple notebook for much cheaper than their weaker and smaller ultramobile. That's why Apple failed.
 
In apples own superiority complex, they have screwed themselves by building a turkey of a unit, it's so thin you will lose it down the side of the filing cabinet, or that space behind the laundry basket, it might one day suddenly show up in a folder you haven't looked at for the last three years.

Then it has no functionality besides hooking up to the wireless at the coffee house and browsing the internets, you cannot burn CD's (or read them for that matter) as it has no optical drive, you cannot hook up more than one USB device as it's got the one USB port...unless you like carrying around a four to eight port hub around?

Indeed for the price it is a turkey when you can spend a little more and get something you actually could use.
 
Outamyhead said:
...you cannot hook up more than one USB device as it's got the one USB port...unless you like carrying around a four to eight port hub around?

Indeed for the price it is a turkey when you can spend a little more and get something you actually could use.
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Wow didn't know that, the EEEPC has three USB ports. Once again function wins over form.
 
I rather have a small functional laptop with less ability than having a thin laptop but need to carry around the extras like optical drive, usb hub(1 USB port, wtf? I wanna use a mouse, flash drive and optical drive at the same time), stereo speakers(musics, movies), micro DVI adapter(for presentation), and ethernet adapter.
 
They got rid of an Ethernet port... for the sake of the "style" of the laptop and going all wireless.

Instead they offer it in USB form... That's just stupid...

You can even upgrade the wireless card in the Eee :D

Air is gimmick and "style"... Eee is function...
 
I've never owned a Mac in my life and I'd still be more likely to buy the Macbook Air (though I'd prefer a Pro)
 
Yeah I'd say the Air doesn't fit any market well, even against apple's other products wheras the EEE has actually defined a market.

The Air is NOT a desktop replacement and thin != small.

That being said the EEE ends up being a superior as a desktop companion system, and it's even more expandable.

The frisbee er ummm...air having only 1 USB port really is a cruel joke.
 
People keep complaining that the eee lost all the hardware specs, so it should have lost overall. You realize you could buy 4 top end eee pc's for the price of one entry level Air? And it's more useful, too, with 3 USB ports, Ethernet, Audio out AND in, VGA, and an SD reader. It doesn't need to have the more powerful hardware because it's running a lightweight operating system. Can it do photoshop? No. Can it do audio and video encoding? sure, but slowly. That's not the point. The point is, it can outperform the Air in tasks they can each accomplish on a practical basis. Web Browsing? The eee boots faster, so you'll be into firefox faster than on the Air. The eee is actually compact, not just flat. It is nearly silent, and in fact is, so long as your fan isn't running. The HDD is gonna read faster, even if there is less storage, but for what you use your eee, there is no need for more. Hell, it's even got a webcam. AND it's got 2 speakers! Stereo, baby! What now, Air?

Of course, anyone who buys a top end air is a fool. $3,100 for a laptop that can do half of what a real computer can do? Even if you are an apple fetishist, you can, for 3100, get a macbook, imac, and mac mini. Give me a break.
 
Im getting one once they update the screen resolution. I plan on using XP or OS X Tiger on it, and neither OS plays well with a resolution under 800x600. I will probably end up using it to replace my ipod too, running iTunes or Winamp on it while in the car (heres hoping they add some multimedia buttons to it and a flip-screen).

uclajd said:
So Apple kicks its ass in every single category, including booting into both OS X and Windows, and the EEE wins simply because it's cheaper? By that argument, a used 1998 IBM laptop on ebay wins. What nonsense. Only a Linux nerd could see the Apple losing this one.

Besides, it is Apples and Oranges. The Apple is a high-end laptop. The EEE is a no frills cheapo great for a kid's first laptop, but no serious business professional. No comparison.
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Its called value. At $350 hell yes the EEE is a better value than the MBA. Neither notebooks are main computers. The EEE manages to be more mobile, accomplish things a mobile notebook should do, and it comes in at under $400. Basically the EEE does the job at a better value.

BOTH are toys. Secondary computers used for rudimentary tasks on the road. The MBA is just over zealous in those tasks.
 
I'm curious when did a mid-level CPU for a laptop with not many additional features become "high end"? Is thin a "high end" thing to do? I mean ok it has solid state drives, but yeah so?
 
I gotta give it to the EEEpc personally. The price difference is just too drastic to justify the Air, particularly with SSD
 
This is stupid for two reasons.

1. They're not in the same market. Ultra-Portable =/= Budget. The EEE happens to be ultra-portable because making it any bigger would increase the price.

2. Ther MacBook Air is the stupidest laptop I have ever seen. Sure, the design is nice, but the price is absolutely outragous for what you get and it doesn't actually fit into the "Ultra-Portable" market because, thinness aside, its not smaller then a MacBook..so really it has no real market. Its just a small laptop with a huge price tag and serves no purpose outside of Apple to say "because we can".
 
uclajd said:
So Apple kicks its ass in every single category, including booting into both OS X and Windows, and the EEE wins simply because it's cheaper? By that argument, a used 1998 IBM laptop on ebay wins. What nonsense. Only a Linux nerd could see the Apple losing this one.

Besides, it is Apples and Oranges. The Apple is a high-end laptop. The EEE is a no frills cheapo great for a kid's first laptop, but no serious business professional. No comparison.
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Meh. The eeepc is pretty cool. Ive always thought of mac users as people with more dollars than sense.

The air book is obviously made for people with small genitalia.
 
Quite honestly- I am no Mac fan at all (and think the air is a PoS), but I don't see how the EEE won this.

I mean, 4GB storage space? That's nothing.

Virtually no RAM in this sucker, I understand it runs *nix, but I'd rather have a more functional and easier to use Mac OS interface.

I'll personally never buy either machine, myself (Perhaps a Thinkpad, Toshiba, or a Sony ultra portable, but not these).
 
TechieSooner said:
Quite honestly- I am no Mac fan at all (and think the air is a PoS), but I don't see how the EEE won this.

I mean, 4GB storage space? That's nothing.

Virtually no RAM in this sucker, I understand it runs *nix, but I'd rather have a more functional and easier to use Mac OS interface.

I'll personally never buy either machine, myself (Perhaps a Thinkpad, Toshiba, or a Sony ultra portable, but not these).
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What do you need storage space for, on an UMPC?

You have a server or desktop for storage, buy real 500/750 gig hard-drives. Why is this even brought up?

It has an SDHC card slot where you can stick a 16gig card in if you actually need the space, and thats going for $65 on newegg right now... Ram is $26 for a 2gb stick... so $90 and you have 20gigs of space, 2gigs of ram...
 
Look at it like this. Think of all the places you wouldn't want to lug around a laptop bag, and realize that you could "lug" your EEEPC there and have a functioning Internet device, because it's so small and unobtrusive. It fits in jacket pockets even unless your jacket has small pockets.
 
Blazestorm said:
What do you need storage space for, on an UMPC?

You have a server or desktop for storage, buy real 500/750 gig hard-drives. Why is this even brought up?
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Uh... UltraPortable pretty much means it is a MOBILE device- separated from servers.

Yes you can VPN and whatnot, but not having hardly any local space to do offline work (on a plane or wherever you don't have access) is just a major PITA.
 
TechieSooner said:
Uh... UltraPortable pretty much means it is a MOBILE device- separated from servers.

Yes you can VPN and whatnot, but not having hardly any local space to do offline work (on a plane or wherever you don't have access) is just a major PITA.
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24gb seems like plenty. Besides, its only limited to how many sdhc you could carry.
 
TechieSooner said:
Uh... UltraPortable pretty much means it is a MOBILE device- separated from servers.

Yes you can VPN and whatnot, but not having hardly any local space to do offline work (on a plane or wherever you don't have access) is just a major PITA.
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What would take up 80 gigs of space that you would actually need/want to do on a laptop?

That's my point, I have all the programs I need and windows XP and only used 900 megs on the Eee. At home I can stream music/movies off my server without any effort at all.

If I need storage I'll buy an external hard-drive, which will be FASTER than that 80 gig Ipod drive in the Air.

It's gimmick and hype, the Air has less functionality than the Eee in a realistic scenario, zero upgradability, 1 USB port, iPod HDD... but hey, it can fit in a manilla envelope.
 
I just find it funny that they want $1799 for it. That's a 17" SLI 8600GTM or 8700M laptop there. With the works. Way to much in price for what you're getting. Could care less how thin it is.
 
DarkLegacy said:
I just find it funny that they want $1799 for it. That's a 17" SLI 8600GTM or 8700M laptop there. With the works. Way to much in price for what you're getting. Could care less how thin it is.
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ouch. my laptop has a 7600go in it and i paid 700 :D

if hte eee had a larger screen i'd love it. but that doesn't mean i'd get a mac air. hell no :D
 
Outamyhead said:
In apples own superiority complex, they have screwed themselves by building a turkey of a unit, it's so thin you will lose it down the side of the filing cabinet, or that space behind the laundry basket, it might one day suddenly show up in a folder you haven't looked at for the last three years.

Then it has no functionality besides hooking up to the wireless at the coffee house and browsing the internets, you cannot burn CD's (or read them for that matter) as it has no optical drive, you cannot hook up more than one USB device as it's got the one USB port...unless you like carrying around a four to eight port hub around?

Indeed for the price it is a turkey when you can spend a little more and get something you actually could use.
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BINGO! The point is that although the apple is "faster" and "thinner" the eee weighs less, and is MUCH more portable and to be honest is going to be used (mostly) for the exact same thing as the air...

(the sad thing is that the second the air launches it will sell like hot cakes....)
 
oh yea I almost forgot...there is a 9" touch screen EEE in the works...(at least thats what engadget says...)
 
eee pc too small in the storage department?

MBA $3000 for 64GB SSD

eee pc - $500
8GB SSD - OS
mini pcie card with 2 usb ports - $50
32GB 200x USB Flash = $200 (internal) - applications?
32GB 200x USB Flash = $200 (internal) - Music?
16GB Class 6 SDHC = $140 (fits flush in slot)
internal bluetooth 2.0 EDR = $15
hi cap battery $100

~$1200 for an eee pc with 88GB of storage ALL SOLID SATE with bluetooth

you can buy 2 eee pc's FULLY UPGRADED with $600 to spare, $600 can buy you 2 MORE eee pc's but the 4GB version

thats 2 MAXED out eee pc with 2 regular eee pc's
 
TechieSooner said:
Quite honestly- I am no Mac fan at all (and think the air is a PoS), but I don't see how the EEE won this.

I mean, 4GB storage space? That's nothing.

Virtually no RAM in this sucker, I understand it runs *nix, but I'd rather have a more functional and easier to use Mac OS interface.

I'll personally never buy either machine, myself (Perhaps a Thinkpad, Toshiba, or a Sony ultra portable, but not these).
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eee is UPGRADABLE, i know being an apple user your not used to upgrading since apple doesnt let you but asus specifically said you are allowed to open the eee pc and muck around, they will still honor the warranty if you break it.

now.. 4GB is for the OS
it has a free mini pcie slot inside that can handle 2 usb ports
2x usb ports = 64GB of 200x flash
2GB of 667 ram is $40
there are 32GB SDHC's oout there but they are rare so ill say 16GB SDHC class 6 200x
internal bluetooth mod is all over the internet and costs like $10-20 depending on what you want, you can even get a class 1 bluetooth adapter 2.0 EDR for $20 shipped

if you make the eee pc cost as much as the baseline MBA you will have

the $500 8GB eee pc
$20 for 1x bluetooth
$40 for 1x 2GB of Ram
$400 for 2x 32GB USB
$825 for 11x 16GB SDHC Cards

total is $1785 and you get 248GB of FLASH memory

here is the 16GB SDHC for ~$75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245
 
lets comapre the $3000 SSD MBA

$500 8GB eee PC
$20 for 1x bluetooth
$40 for 1x 2GB of Ram
$400 for 2x 32GB USB
$2025 for 27x 16GB SDHC Cards

Total $2985

thats 504GB of Flash Memory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O
 
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