somebrains
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I'm seeing idiots buy gear and try to flip on Craigslist.
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which B550 board is considered the best price/performance one?...Asus or the Gigabyte Aorus Elite?
honestly.. go with what ever one has the features you want for the price you want to pay. they're all generally the same as far as performance goes.
I got a full ATX with WiFi... just saves me from having to have a card in. Find the one with the features you want/need in a price you're comfortable with and you should be fine. Unless you're doing some major overclocking, the VRMs are pretty much all good enough. If you do plan on some hefty overclocking, then do some research. I ended up with an MSI MPG B550 GAMING WIFI for my son along with a 3700x.... it was a bit more than I originally intended (was looking at just a cheap sub $100 MB to go along with a 3300x, neither of which seemed like it was happening).I am interested in:
B550M pro4, B550M Tuf (should I pay the extra for the wifi version?) and MSI B550M Mortar (ditto).
The Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite looks promising. That ATX board is the same price as Asus B550 Tuf boards (both states and matx).
Thoughts?
I mean, the ones that sell out the fastest are the cheapest ones... Which leaves the pricey ones. When I was looking more B550s met my requirements than x570s... specifically 2.5gbe and a USB 3.1 Gen 2 front header. Very hard to find on an x570 until you start getting over $300 and even then. So, I found a B550 for under $200 that had built in wifi 6 to boot, saving me from having to install a pcie card. I think asrock is about the only option under $100 though, so for sure not as cheap as b450's and you're right on some of them being priced a bit high, but if they are selling then I guess they aren't priced to crazy.B550 boards are disappointingly expensive compared with their b450 predecessors. If it wasnt for a lack of x570 availability, they would not sell well.
Yah, downside of b550 is zen2+, if you are needing it for Zen2 though, prices aren't horrible and the VRMs are pretty good as well as lots of features in the $150 range. I mean, I just picked up 2 3700x, one for $270 and 2 week later one for $260 with ac Valhalla for free... Was going to buy the game for my son anyways so basically got it for $200. The deal came out like 2 weeks after I bought the first one, but iv been wanting an excuse to upgrade my 1600 anyways and $200 for a 3700x was a good enough one for me.Nice to see the B550s in stock now, but damn - those prices! Think I'm just going to hold off on my ITX build (and really kicking myself for not jumping on a $200 x570 refurb Gigabyte board a few months back).
In most cases, I can spend $20-30 more for the X570 version. That would still allow me to use my existing 2700X and wait on dropping in a 3000-series (hoping for decent Black Friday sales on a 3700x or 3800x). Going B550, I'd have to shell out for something compatible right away.
Which board?I mean, the ones that sell out the fastest are the cheapest ones... Which leaves the pricey ones. When I was looking more B550s met my requirements than x570s... specifically 2.5gbe and a USB 3.1 Gen 2 front header. Very hard to find on an x570 until you start getting over $300 and even then. So, I found a B550 for under $200 that had built in wifi 6 to boot, saving me from having to install a pcie card. I think asrock is about the only option under $100 though, so for sure not as cheap as b450's and you're right on some of them being priced a bit high, but if they are selling then I guess they aren't priced to crazy.
I ended up getting an MSI MPG B550 Gaming WiFi (upgraded my son's PC from a 6600k to a 3700x, his nzxt h510 has front USB-C and I was tired of it being just for show and not working). MSI is one of the few that puts gen 2 headers on their b550 boards... Not so much their x570 boards. Only complaint is their dragon center doesn't work at all... I mean literally not a single option comes up when it loads. The hardware itself is great, software is shit, lol. I submitted a trouble ticket about 3 weeks ago with no response, glad it wasn't something important.Which board?
Yeah, I was looking at x570s also, but found b550s matched my requirements better.I “downgraded” to a b550m Prime WiFi from a x570 Crosshair viii. I’m actually pleased with its performance for what I need it for.
It's seems advanced and they took there time for some reason as the bios is very limited on cpu support like where they plan to build from going forward and to see it says x570 south bridge and no chipset fan speaks volume .Yeah, I was looking at x570s also, but found b550s matched my requirements better.
To be fair, b550 south bridge is PCIE 3.0, where x570 is 4.0. It was frustrating that it took so long for the b550's to come out though, wish there were a few more manufacturers offering passive cooling on x570s, but I guess the pcie 4.0 takes a bit more power.It's seems advanced and they took there time for some reason as the bios is very limited on cpu support like where they plan to build from going forward and to see it says x570 south bridge and no chipset fan speaks volume .
The board is decent, their dragon center software is shit (at least in my attempts at using it). I got the mpg b550 gaming wifi, it was $190 for an atx board with WiFi, so couldn't complain.So you guys with the Msi boards recommend them, right?
I am considering the Mortar or A-Pro. Ideally, I like the Mortar wifi overall although I am considering 3 other boards. Two matx and one Atx. B550m tuf gaming wifi and Asrock B550m Steel Legend (includes option for a wifi module) and Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite (cheapest) but no wifi version. All are over $200 here except the A Pro.
I'm indecisive. :-/
I think the PCI Express x 16 is 4.0 as my bios offers Gen 4 there as Paul explains it in this video or what parts are as you say PCI Express 3.0 is more the drives ,
I can get 2.5gbe and a USB gen 2 header with 2x M.2 for the same price. It's not as if VRMs are any better on low end x570's..If I was to build a budget build, I would just get the ASUS Prime X570-P , ATX, 2x M.2 for $149 at NewEgg. I just don't see the reason with the pricing for B550.
I got a full ATX with WiFi... just saves me from having to have a card in. Find the one with the features you want/need in a price you're comfortable with and you should be fine. Unless you're doing some major overclocking, the VRMs are pretty much all good enough. If you do plan on some hefty overclocking, then do some research. I ended up with an MSI MPG B550 GAMING WIFI for my son along with a 3700x.... it was a bit more than I originally intended (was looking at just a cheap sub $100 MB to go along with a 3300x, neither of which seemed like it was happening).
I ended up getting an MSI MPG B550 Gaming WiFi (upgraded my son's PC from a 6600k to a 3700x, his nzxt h510 has front USB-C and I was tired of it being just for show and not working). MSI is one of the few that puts gen 2 headers on their b550 boards... Not so much their x570 boards. Only complaint is their dragon center doesn't work at all... I mean literally not a single option comes up when it loads. The hardware itself is great, software is shit, lol. I submitted a trouble ticket about 3 weeks ago with no response, glad it wasn't something important.
Sorry to quote three messages. I just wanted to say I agree with your logic. I think the Gaming Edge wifi is one of the best B550 boards. It's the one I want but is expensive here (Canada). It is basically the B550 Tomahawk but with wifi 6. I believe mosfets/vrm is the same. It's almost as good as X570 Tomahawk's in benchmarks (difference was negligible). It's probably overkill for me but I would keep it (the computer) for a while.The board is decent, their dragon center software is shit (at least in my attempts at using it). I got the mpg b550 gaming wifi, it was $190 for an atx board with WiFi, so couldn't complain.
Yeah, it was slightly more than some others but I felt had everything in as looking for and honestly, it was in stock when I wanted to buy too, lol. If it wasn't for the crappy dragon center I really wouldn't have any complaints (and that's a minor annoyances not a show stopper for me).Sorry to quote three messages. I just wanted to say I agree with your logic. I think the Gaming Edge wifi is one of the best B550 boards. It's the one I want but is expensive here (Canada). It is basically the B550 Tomahawk but with wifi 6. I believe mosfets/vrm is the same. It's almost as good as X570 Tomahawk's in benchmarks (difference was negligible). It's probably overkill for me but I would keep it (the computer) for a while.
I sold my old computer parts except for a P45 motherboard. The B550 Tomahawk doesn't have wifi so I am wondering if I could do without wifi for a while.
The B550m Mortar wifi is pretty good too and $30 cheaper.
I can launch dragon center, but it shows no options at all. I can't set a single thing. It doesn't crash, just doesn't allow me to do anything like it's not able to aggregate/poll for hardware. Tried running as admin, no difference. Submitted a ticket to MSI over a month ago with no response, so don't expect much from support if you buy one (maybe if it was a hardware issue I would have gotten a response, but no clue). Chalk me up to not very impressed with their software or customer service, but the board itself is stable and works great.I have only used the dragon center software to power the fan colors and memory sticks and the board has a switch at the bottom to turn the LCD lights off or on . but the board has been running good and no crash .
No better then B350 or B450 if you don't get any PCI Express 4.0 supportAMD launches budget A520 motherboards for 3rd gen Ryzen and Zen 3
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-budget-friendly-a520-chipset-finally-comes-to-town
Maybe better for price, if the other missing features (vrm, mb sinks, oc/power control support, extras, etc.) don't bother you and scalpers don't jump on it. Think I'm set on B550 or x570 though.No better the B350 or B450 if you don't get any PCI Express 4.0 support
It's not bad, 8 stage VRM with USB 3.0 gen 2 (USB c). For cheap little boards, seems ok. Not something I'll be buying, I'd rather fork a few extra bones for a b550 and keep the ability to OC.Maybe better for price, if the other missing features (vrm, mb sinks, oc/power control support, extras, etc.) don't bother you and scalpers don't jump on it. Think I'm set on B550 or x570 though.
It's not bad, 8 stage VRM with USB 3.0 gen 2 (USB c). For cheap little boards, seems ok. Not something I'll be buying, I'd rather fork a few extra bones for a b550 and keep the ability to OC.