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Another "Which is faster?" thread.

Halon

Halon

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It looks like a friend of mine may give me a 1.7 GHz Pentium IV soon. Now this isn't a monstrously impressive CPU; if I'm not mistaken it's a 256k/400FSB model. Would this be faster or slower than the 2.2 GHz 128k/400FSB Celeron another friend of mine gave me?
 
Halon said:
It looks like a friend of mine may give me a 1.7 GHz Pentium IV soon. Now this isn't a monstrously impressive CPU; if I'm not mistaken it's a 256k/400FSB model. Would this be faster or slower than the 2.2 GHz 128k/400FSB Celeron another friend of mine gave me?
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No. That P4 should outperform your celery.

Here are some benches with a P4 1.8A vs several Celerons to give you an idea.

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=1927&p=14
 
Atrye said:
Wow. I didn't realize the performance difference was so vast.
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You have to take that in context.... those comparisons are only for a couple of games. That 2.2G celeron would outperform a 1.7G P4, if you were doing MPEG2 encoding.
 
dnas said:
You have to take that in context.... those comparisons are only for a couple of games. That 2.2G celeron would outperform a 1.7G P4, if you were doing MPEG2 encoding.
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Do you have some benches to show us those results? Bottom line is the Celeron is a real poor perfomer.
 
Dude take the 1.7 and see if it will do 533. Could have instant oc goodness on your hands with a nice stable and easy oc for all of your other components to boot...
 
operaman said:
Dude take the 1.7 and see if it will do 533. Could have instant oc goodness on your hands with a nice stable and easy oc for all of your other components to boot...
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I know for a fact that with the cooling in the P4 system the 2.2 Celeron could be bumped up to a 533 MHz FSB. That would smack its effective speed up to just over 2.9 GHz, and would definitely help it out a bit. I'm not sure how well the 1.7 could be overclocked... some time tomorrow I'll look into it. Unless someone here suggests how likely that is...
 
the p4 1.7 is a willamete core, the celeron 2.2 is a northwood....id rather have the crippled northwood and try my luck with overclocking.
 
He should try to OC the celeron, but even overclocked, I am betting that it still doesn't perform worth a schitt. Those Celerons with the tiny cache just flat out suck.
 
Met-AL said:
He should try to OC the celeron, but even overclocked, I am betting that it still doesn't perform worth a schitt. Those Celerons with the tiny cache just flat out suck.
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You're right, but it was free... and free is good. Even at 2933 MHz it will probably struggle to play Doom 3 at more than a baseline framerate, but given that it's got a Radeon 9550 (128-bit) for video, it's not that big a deal.

That being said, I'll probably still take the 1.7 GHz P4 and put it to use elsewhere.
 
I was refering to the P4 being better than the Celeron. Sorry for putting down your stuff.
 
Met-AL said:
I was refering to the P4 being better than the Celeron. Sorry for putting down your stuff.
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Heh. *laughing* I'm not offended at all. Unless I had a very specific need for a cheap Intel CPU, I would never have purchased the thing. The itty-bitty cache is murder on the poor thing.
 
The 1.7 P4 probably won't overclock well at all. I believe they used to only hit around 2.0ghz on average. The 2.2ghz celeron on the other hand should get to 533fsb most of the time. The p4 1.8A has 512 cache vs. the 1.7P4 which has 256 cache. I think both will perform about equally at stock, but overclocked, I would pick the 2.2ghz celeron.
 
Rix2357 said:
The 1.7 P4 probably won't overclock well at all. I believe they used to only hit around 2.0ghz on average. The 2.2ghz celeron on the other hand should get to 533fsb most of the time. The p4 1.8A has 512 cache vs. the 1.7P4 which has 256 cache. I think both will perform about equally at stock, but overclocked, I would pick the 2.2ghz celeron.
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Woot. I was originally suspecting that, but couldn't remember how the 1.7 held up against the 1.8A. Thanks much.
 
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