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Another 12GB vs 6GB Thread

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speedy523

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Hey everyone, sorry about posting a very widely asked question, but i was wondering, is there a true gain for me to get with 12GB?

What i'll be doing: running VMs, Games, and CS4 Master Suite as i want to try out full web design :)

So far i've seen some people say 12GB is better and others that don't. the only problem is that i need to order the ram today, and i dont know if it'll be available anytime soon again (dominator gt) so any feedback would be appreciated :D
 
MassiveOverkill said:
VM and Adobe, most definately get the 12 gigs.
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thanx for the quick reply, i just wanted to make sure (and have justification :D) for getting more than one kit as i didnt want to mix kits in the future and im not sure if it'll be available again soon. Hmm, i guess now i need to justify it to myself for spending some much :)
 
:D Finally ordered my memory!! Now to begin the ordering of the rest of the build :)
 
RAMdisk....

I'd hate to loose power.
Not that it would take to long to get back.
 
i got 12 gigs of the 2GHz sticks with 7-8-7-20 timings :D

and can someone explain exactly how a RAMdisk works?

i did a couple google searches, but all i got is that its basically a VM running completely on the ram ?
 
RAM disk is basically configuring a virtual hard disk (has nothing to do with Virtualization software like VMware or Virtual PC) from your existing RAM. It shows up as a drive letter/disk, and you can write/read to it, but once you exit your OS (either through normal shutdown/restart or power outage), all data is lost unless the contents of the RAMdisk are saved to real disk.
 
MassiveOverkill said:
RAM disk is basically configuring a virtual hard disk (has nothing to do with Virtualization software like VMware or Virtual PC) from your existing RAM. It shows up as a drive letter/disk, and you can write/read to it, but once you exit your OS (either through normal shutdown/restart or power outage), all data is lost unless the contents of the RAMdisk are saved to real disk.
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so the main use is basically using it to store large files, like videos, and doing stuff like editing them, and then saving them to the hard drive when your done?

or are there better things that you can do that i cant think of right now? :)
 
You pretty much nailed it. It's for pure speed where your disk I/O is a bottleneck (which is often the case). Obviously the speed benefit of copying into RAMdisk, doing your editing, and then copying back to regular disk would have to better than just editing it on regular disk in the first place.

SSD's are probably going to make RAMdisk less popular because although you won't get the same speed, you'll still get a big performance increase, but not have to worry about losing all your work if you loose power.
 
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I would definitely recommend 12gb if you're going to run Virtual Machines (man those things can eat ram like no other), I find myself using 4gb out of my 6gb when just running vm's. If I had the money to upgrade I sure would....
 
VMWare Workstation only supports systems with up to 8gb of memory. Some stupid limitation to make people buy more expensive VMWare products... I know they're not the only VM solution, but keep that in mind.
 
Rubbing, you mean you cannot assign more than 8 gigs of memory to a single VM session, which I really don't see why a single VM would need that much memory. Worstation will use more than 8 gigs total for all your running VM's if they use more than that.

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RubbingAlcoholic said:
VMWare Workstation only supports systems with up to 8gb of memory. Some stupid limitation to make people buy more expensive VMWare products... I know they're not the only VM solution, but keep that in mind.
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False. As MassiveOverkill stated; you can run VMWare workstation on a system with well over 8gigs of ram with no problem (I use it on my sig rig). Provided it is 64bit. The limitation is that you can't assign more than 8gigs to a VM.

MassiveOverkill said:
Rubbing, you mean you cannot assign more than 8 gigs of memory to a single VM session, which I really don't see why a single VM would need that much memory. Worstation will use more than 8 gigs total for all your running VM's if they use more than that.
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I was under the impression that 6gigs of ram would preform faster than 12gigs?
Please correct me if i am wrong
 
speedy523 said:
Hey everyone, sorry about posting a very widely asked question, but i was wondering, is there a true gain for me to get with 12GB?

What i'll be doing: running VMs, Games, and CS4 Master Suite as i want to try out full web design :)

So far i've seen some people say 12GB is better and others that don't. the only problem is that i need to order the ram today, and i dont know if it'll be available anytime soon again (dominator gt) so any feedback would be appreciated :D
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You are going to drop the $$$ on Adobe Master Suite and you are waffling over 12GB of RAM??? :confused:

Seriously?
 
Massive, did you have to do anything special/back off timings for 4.0ghz on your RGII?

I have a R2E and am wondering if I can handle 12GB without having to sacrifice on OC. I notice HT appears off on your system, I still have it enabled on mine.
 
has anyone who's ordered from the corsair store know how long it takes for them to process? i ordered a week ago but it still says order is being processed by corsair....
 
dook43 said:
Massive, did you have to do anything special/back off timings for 4.0ghz on your RGII?

I have a R2E and am wondering if I can handle 12GB without having to sacrifice on OC. I notice HT appears off on your system, I still have it enabled on mine.
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I increased B2B (Back-to-Back) from Asus default of 0 to 10,but I may lower it to 5 or 6 when I get a chance. I'm running 1532 Mhz, but haven't tried for more. Running standard XMP Profile 1 otherwise.

HT is off due to heat. If I ever decide to go H20 again, I'll re-enable it.
 
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