Android Market Blocking Rooted Devices?

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Want to rent a movie from the Android Market to watch on your rooted Android device? The laugh is on you because Google says you are out of luck.

So now people who root their phones, whether to get rid of the crap "open" that's forced down their throats, or to have a current version of Android, are punished and lumped in with folks who steal movies. Nice move, Google. That makes me want to buy more of your products and use more of your services, so I can be treated like a criminal just because I'm smart enough to get rid of CityID, or want a safe version of Android on my phone.
 
I'm pretty sure we can lay this at the feet of content owners who refused to license the content unless google made it "secure." Granted that concept is laughable, but I'm betting it was either this or no rental service at all.
 
I can be treated like a criminal just because I'm smart enough to get rid of CityID, or want a safe version of Android on my phone.
The stock version of Android isn't safe? I don't understand what he's trying to say here.
 
Sad day..

Looks like we are starting to see the "open" of android further erode.
 
I'm pretty sure we can lay this at the feet of content owners who refused to license the content unless google made it "secure." Granted that concept is laughable, but I'm betting it was either this or no rental service at all.

It's only going to amount in an arms race. It'll just push hacked devices into to "currently undetectable" status, where before they were open about the fact they were rooted.
 
Ha... Why even rent a movie to watch it on a tiny screen. If I am going to pay a "rental fee" for a single movie, I am not going to waste my time running in on a phone.

The reason I upgraded to the latest version was so I could run Netflix.

If I really wanted to, I could just temporarily unroot my phone.. it takes like 5 seconds to do so.
 
It's only going to amount in an arms race. It'll just push hacked devices into to "currently undetectable" status, where before they were open about the fact they were rooted.

Hence why I said it was laughable. ;) Big companies who release big OS's are never ever going to be ahead of the curve on the modding community for more than a short period of time after initial release.
 
I'm pretty sure we can lay this at the feet of content owners who refused to license the content unless google made it "secure." Granted that concept is laughable, but I'm betting it was either this or no rental service at all.

+1

YES, love how this is GOOGLE, its not.. its the content owners. IS it all about bashing companies nowdays to get page hits?
 
The stock version of Android isn't safe? I don't understand what he's trying to say here.

Something like the Droid is stuck at 2.2.2 as it is EOL. For example last week there was the security hole announced when using open WiFi (mountain out of a mole hill security bug but whatever). Why should the user of an EOL device be punished if said user wants to run CyanogenMod or another custom ROM and have Android 2.3.4 which fixes the hole?

Hence why I said it was laughable. ;) Big companies who release big OS's are never ever going to be ahead of the curve on the modding community for more than a short period of time after initial release.

Yeah, this won't stop anything. Carriers started cracking on on illicit tethering so what does PDAnet do? Releases an update that makes the tethering supposedly invisible. The same thing will happen here or the device will just start reporting itself as a stock device. The developers will always win.
 
Luckily Samsung doesn't care and their media hub has WAY more TV/Movies than android market, so, this is a non-issue...if you bought the right android.
 
I'm pretty sure we can lay this at the feet of content owners who refused to license the content unless google made it "secure." Granted that concept is laughable, but I'm betting it was either this or no rental service at all.

This is possible, but I wonder why Apple didn't have to do the same? :confused: You can buy content from itunes on a jailbroken device without any issues.

At any rate, I agree with cycloned3d... why would anyone bother renting TV/Movies on a cellphone? This largely seems like a non-issue
 
That article is so full of blind rage and FAIL that I don't think I'll bother with that site anymore.
 
You can buy content from itunes on a jailbroken device without any issues.


If Apple hasn't bricked it recently. We know and have a history of how Apple feels about rooted devices. Apple had to be sued not to destroy the jailbreak iPhones. Google actively leaks new versions of Android to community modders... The idea that this isn't something forced on Google just to be able to do this service is insanely blind.
 
Oh no! Now I can't watch overpriced movie rentals!

Oh wait, I have Netflix, nothing to see here move along.
 
Netflix is on Android now, so they can suck a lemon.

The really funny thing is Netflix tried to do this as well with Android. They only released to like 8 devices. Less then 48 hours later just about every Android device running 2.2 or 2.3 could play Netflix. Go go developers!
 
I'm pretty sure we can lay this at the feet of content owners who refused to license the content unless google made it "secure." Granted that concept is laughable, but I'm betting it was either this or no rental service at all.

Bingo!

My guess is that this is out of Googles hands.

They likely can't get content from film studios etc, unless they can demonstrate working DRM, and when a device is rooted, the DRM could be in question, so Google was likely forced to take this move if they wanted a movie rental store at all.

Keep in mind, that unlike what the title may suggest, only the movie rental portion is blovked to rooted devices, not the Android Market as a whole.
 
The stock version of Android isn't safe? I don't understand what he's trying to say here.

If you were to click the link and read the article, you'd find that any Android os prior to 2.3.3 has some rather serious security flaws, and as such not safe.

The scary part is that hardware vendors are not patching existing phones (even though google has released an upstream patch) and still ship new phones with Android versions below 2.3.3...
 
Zarathustra[H];1037289917 said:
The scary part is that hardware vendors are not patching existing phones (even though google has released an upstream patch) and still ship new phones with Android versions below 2.3.3...
Exactly. Hardware vendors. Carriers. Not Google.
 
it really isnt going to matter much once all these mobile data caps get put in place though....people will download the movie on their PC and transfer to their rooted mobile
 
That's OK, you can keep your crappy DRM protected movie rentals. I prefer to do my own encoding...
 
Exactly. Hardware vendors. Carriers. Not Google.

Yep, thaty still doesn't change the fact that if you want the latest version of Android (to patch these holes and more) and own one of these devices, rooting it is your only option...

...and Google blocks rooted devices from its rental store.

I don't blame Google here. I blame a combination of the movie studios insisting on DRM probably pushing this into the contract and shitty hardware vendors not updating their phones...

...actually, I don't even really blame the hardware vendors. They sell to the carriers, and the carriers make all the demands and are their customers, so they have little choice but to do whatever the carriers want...

So, I blame the carriers and the content owners for this.
 
Zarathustra[H];1037289950 said:
Yep, thaty still doesn't change the fact that if you want the latest version of Android (to patch these holes and more) and own one of these devices, rooting it is your only option...
True enough.

Zarathustra[H];1037289950 said:
So, I blame the carriers and the content owners for this.
Same.
 
So.. lesson here.. fuck paying for movies and pirate them so I can do what I want with them.. now on my phone too... because they clearly don't want me having the ability to PAY for their shit on a more open platform.


Retards..
 
So.. lesson here.. fuck paying for movies and pirate them so I can do what I want with them.. now on my phone too... because they clearly don't want me having the ability to PAY for their shit on a more open platform.


Retards..

So very, very true.
 
This is just the top of the iceberg, I know several developers who started with Apple. I have asked a few of them why they don't go to Android..... There answers:

1. It is too fragmented already, you will get slapped with bad reivews because you will miss something somewere.

and

2. The openness of the platform, though us geeks like it.....developers tend to not, they do what they do to make money, as one said "I am not a fucking charity like some of these nerds think I am".

Movie studios seems to always start this stuff in mass though.
 
I'm pretty sure we can lay this at the feet of content owners who refused to license the content unless google made it "secure." Granted that concept is laughable, but I'm betting it was either this or no rental service at all.

Pretty much.

The content owners are not going to allow their content to be displayed on devices that can potentially circumvent their copyright controls. It's as simple as that.
 
The really funny thing is Netflix tried to do this as well with Android. They only released to like 8 devices. Less then 48 hours later just about every Android device running 2.2 or 2.3 could play Netflix. Go go developers!

Indeed. Running Netflix on my Epic.

DO YOU HEAR ME NETFLIX? I WANT TO PAY YOU MONEY. Why are you against this!?
 
The really funny thing is Netflix tried to do this as well with Android. They only released to like 8 devices. Less then 48 hours later just about every Android device running 2.2 or 2.3 could play Netflix. Go go developers!

If Netflix got their way, then there's always bit torrent. Then Netflix can suck a lemon.
 
Let the pearl clutching nerd rage indignation and hollow threats to move to ios or wp7 begin!
 
This is just the beginning... Get your fun in while it lasts!
 
Zarathustra[H];1037289909 said:
Bingo!

My guess is that this is out of Googles hands.

They likely can't get content from film studios etc, unless they can demonstrate working DRM, and when a device is rooted, the DRM could be in question, so Google was likely forced to take this move if they wanted a movie rental store at all.

Keep in mind, that unlike what the title may suggest, only the movie rental portion is blovked to rooted devices, not the Android Market as a whole.

My brand new LG Optima V came with 2.2
 
Indeed. Running Netflix on my Epic.

DO YOU HEAR ME NETFLIX? I WANT TO PAY YOU MONEY. Why are you against this!?

What does this have to do with netflix? I run it on my rooted n1. Getting a device to run netflix is easy, root it and edit build.prop. It's been covered on every android blog out there.
 
If Netflix got their way, then there's always bit torrent. Then Netflix can suck a lemon.

Sigh. Netflix did not restrict rooted devices. They limited the roll out to devices they had tested on. No evil drm shenanigans.

The work around to run netflix on unsupported devices REQUIRES root. Jesus.Do any of you even own a fucking android device, let alone a rooted one?


Posted from my rooted nexus one running cm7. And netflix.
 
This is good news to the Amazon App Store.

Guess google forgot people have a choice where to buy Apps on Android phones.
 
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