Anandtech calls it quits

Keljian said:
Anandtech, Tom’s, gotApex, Aces and [H] in ye olde days.

Chips and cheese now.

The rest really don’t have it.. too sensationalist
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Yup, click bait bullshit in a lot of instances, a title of a video that implies one thing while the content of the video says another.
 
Love this part. Boy do we need less sensationalism in reporting right now.

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Armenius said:
Tom's is garbage. It is hilarious to me that this is the site they're pointing to for people who still want to read tech news.
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Well, they're both owned by Future, who else are they going to flog if they want severance? (this is a joke. Like Tom's.)
 
techie81 said:
For me, it was [H] and Anand at the beginning of my tech journey. Used to frequent their forums and articles/reviews. After a while I kept noticing some serious socialist tendencies on their forums and basically stopped visiting both. We lost the real Anandtech a long time ago.
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Hard and the original MaximumPC for me.
 
Derfnofred said:
Yeah, I've been out of it, but always enjoyed their computer architecture deep dives. That hasn't really been a thing for a long time though
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Same here. I always liked their reviews, but actually forgot they were still around until just now.
 
I still visited them on occasion and was always super bummed by what I saw. Like a guy you always looked up to is now dying and frail
 
Their prime of when they did the architecture deep dives was great. About the only website to do that stuff. They largely went to shit when Anand left and the thing got sold off, they've been on life support and basically dead for years now.
 
FrgMstr said:
Had a long talk about this in our chat a couple nights ago. The business model is simply not there.
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I totally hear you. There is no source that actively promotes written or mixed website content. Youtube content can be successful and gain a large audience and thus advertising because youtube is a self fulfilling hypeman. Youtube can tweak it's algorithm to steer eyes towards whatever content it sees fit. There is no literature hypeman. I write thorough Electrical engineering based content. What's the only place that rebroadcasts electrical engineering content? Hackaday.com. That's it. One blog that somehow was purchased by siemens.
Sure, there are other electrical engineering sites, but they operate like PRnewswire. Company pays off PRnewswire to hype up their new product, article gets written. EE times, EDN, EEweb, IEEE spectrum, etc...all the same modus operandi.
 
I still checked Anandtech reviews, but they had fallen further down the list in recent years...

I'm glad that they are keeping the forums going. It's one of the few forums where my account is even older than my Hardforum account.
 
Rev. Night said:
On a personal level, this sucks. They and Toms (back when Toms was good) were the go to sites that got me interested in computers. But the last decade or so has not been kind to them, with their gpu/cpu reviews increasing irrelevant. Still, it's a shame to see a titan go.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21542/end-of-the-road-an-anandtech-farewell
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It is a shame. Had great respect for their reviews (and [H]ard's and EOC's) back in the day. Used to sell stuff on their forums quite a bit. Hasn't been the same since Anand left and there hasn't been as much of a need either. Was Ryan Smith the former PCPerspective lead?

As at least one of you have said already, the latest generation of kids have been brought up on YouTube and are incapable of reading, even if it is a more efficient medium. I don't have time to watch 30 minutes of some YouTuber testing something and I may only care about one feature.

RIP legendary articles and reviews.
 
I used to bounce between H and Anandtech then after a while a falling out there soured it for me, I haven’t been back on there since.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
As at least one of you have said already, the latest generation of kids have been brought up on YouTube and are incapable of reading, even if it is a more efficient medium. I don't have time to watch 30 minutes of some YouTuber testing something and I may only care about one feature.
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TBH, seeing the computer illiteracy of the newer generations, they wouldn't read those sort of sites even if they were capable of reading.
 
Meeho said:
TBH, seeing the computer illiteracy of the newer generations, they wouldn't read those sort of sites even if they were capable of reading.
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"those kids would be upset if they could read" meme.
the "genius ipad generation" are a bunch of retards. they can click icons, dont actually know how to use things.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
It is a shame. Had great respect for their reviews (and [H]ard's and EOC's) back in the day. Used to sell stuff on their forums quite a bit. Hasn't been the same since Anand left and there hasn't been as much of a need either. Was Ryan Smith the former PCPerspective lead?

As at least one of you have said already, the latest generation of kids have been brought up on YouTube and are incapable of reading, even if it is a more efficient medium. I don't have time to watch 30 minutes of some YouTuber testing something and I may only care about one feature.

RIP legendary articles and reviews.
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Not speaking for that poster but what I took from it was that these gen rather be fed/told instead of actually rolling up the sleeves a bit and get to learning the topic being discussed via a written article. Yet, they're all there on the screen to read off or a printed material at the reader's (whether if they're boomers, x, z, and the spoon-fed crowd) own pace.

And with that one interpretation, I would agree. Rest is as you've indicated. Just my take on it.

I've been on Anandtech and [H] for about a comparable period of time until I ditched it as it wasn't meeting my preference for a tech site. I had liked some of their materials but wasn't why I left. It was more of the layout and numbers of certain quirks that cemented me to [H] more than any others' misgivings they potentially would've had. Last lurked probably was in 06-07 era if not bit before that.

It's almost sad to see it go the way of Sears in a sense. Adapting its business model for operations necessity seemed to have fallen through the floor. It was at that point, it had become a shell of what it was once, decent and reputable albeit fleeing (biz decisions influenced its publications and or its editorial standards) and I think that was when the vibe/feel had all changed and wasn't ever the same. Last I recalled something similar (not sure if was Anandtech or something else) that had happened and the core reader base probably up and transited into other sites.

What do I know though. I've done only one review here and even then... The review of such hardware had led to this glam of a post.
larryBird44 said:
This is the thread where Kyle sits back in his chair and seriously considers shutting it all the fuck down.

Haha.
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And I'm glad he didn't then but admittedly had to make a business decision later on for a wholly different reasons and that's a topic long behind us.

For what it's all worth FrgMstr and multiple past and the current staff (mods, backend wizard, etc...)

We thank you for all the contents that [H] was able to deliver and still continues to do so differently. I reckon we'll see somewhat potentially a similar path with Anandtech as we saw her at [H].

We, the readers (I speak for at least one), are hopeful that the forums would continue to be an integral part of knowledge as it has sustained us through for the most part ~ two decades and half. It's both sad and a shame in a sense. We saw this coming with the writings on the wall about 8 or 10 years ago however, the forum itself I would presume to be much a simpler operation comparatively to the OCP aspect of the [H]

Again, thank you all for your wonderful and meaningful contributions to the society and in part community-sense, our 'camaraderie' has flourished (at least for [H], I think). It's truly a wonderful thing you all have done.

Yeah, great stuff...

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Anandtech was a great resource for me back in the day. Even beyond reviews, they had lots of articles on the technical processes of building/optimizing gaming PCs. That was back when things could still be pretty challenging, too. I haven't spent much time on their site in the last decade, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Especially with Anand being long gone, too.
 
pendragon1 said:
the "genius ipad generation" are a bunch of retards. they can click icons, dont actually know how to use things.
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I imagine it was similar to all generation once a technology become good enough, from the pre-historic hunter-gatherer to us today the amount of knowledge that was lost.

How much you needed to know about cars to operate one in the early days (rich people had an employee for it), versus now able to drive an automatic one and refill windshield washer and that pretty much it.

Or a phone, in the early days people were member of a phone club and knew the parts, what was going on and so on, quickly became something you can blindly use, microwave feel like something you never had to understand from the beginning.

Yes, it is common now for kids to be a bit lost about directory tree and call Wi-Fi: internet or vice versa, but I imagine the understanding of computer of the lates 80s-early 90s kids was different of the late 60s-early 70s has well, when you typed in machine language or even in assembly and optimized the instruction with how the memory tape turned your understanding of what was going on from the transistor to the monitor must have been greater, but the abstraction also has benefit, focusing on the finish end product can make them better at making tiktok videos.

There a cost at buying butter and soap at the store vs making your own from your own cows and pigs in knowledge, but also benefit.

We see it in computer because it is one of our field of interest, but from food, to housing, to transport, specialization in society to the point that even the user of products do not know how they work is the norm. And there a number game going on as well, using a computer is not a sign of knowing anything about them anymore (like old phones or cars over time), because everyone use them.

The percentage of young people that setup their own neovim in a Unix like bash and know a lot about computer could still be higher than ever, even if the average computer user has never been that level of computer illiterate.
 
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Ach! Sad day. Anandtech was, at one point, my #1 go-to site.

Farewell...
 
I know programmers that make six figures but couldn’t swap out a stick of ram, and techs that could build a server from paper clips and bubble gum but couldn’t write a line of code.

This reminds me of a video I saw of kids being exposed to a 3-D print of a 3.5” floppy. One kid said - “I know what it is… it’s the save icon!”
 
LukeTbk said:
The percentage of young people that setup their own neovim in a Unix like bash and know a lot about computer could still be higher than ever, even if the average computer user has never been that level of computer illiterate.
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I am not sure this is true, based upon interviewing and hiring for <redacted> years.

What I have seen is a bigger split from the top and median. The outstanding candidates - still outstanding. The median - I feel that went down.
 
It is sad. I used to get my reviews from here back when it was a thing and from anantech since they started. Both places are now gone. Their forums are almost dead also, as there is no traffic. At least it is better here. I hate video reviews, what written reviews websites do you recommend now?
 
Anandtech in my opinion was a victim of their own stupid decisions.

Back in the 2000-2015 era, they were pretty good. But as others have said once Anand left, it turned into garbage.

1) One of the main attractions was its forum. However, once they started placing ads everywhere you couldn't even use the forum anymore. The ads were so intrusive you couldn't even read or post or do anything in the forum without an ad blocker the ads would cover about 90% of the screen on your phone. But if you use an ad blocker, they don't get paid. This is website revenue 101 and even the ad companies say to not do this, that too many intrusive ads will cause people to leave and never return which will impact your ad revenue.

2) They also started banning everybody in the forum that were anything right of woke. Posters could create threads about genociding rednecks but as soon as you said anything in response like "How dare you guys say that", they'd ban you. This scared off what it seemed to be some good people on the website and they lost a lot of content creators (aka forum posters) which drew people to the site and again revenue. At the end all I can say is goodbye Perknose, please do not go anywhere else... Please retire... Do not bring your poison anywhere else. Thank you very much.
 
I feel the strong variable is being a video less computer review, is anyone doing good on that model, regardless of content and comments-forum moderation ?
 
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