AMD's 7nm Laptop Processors are Allegedly Coming in Q1 2020

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  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

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    A recent report from WCCFTech claims that AMD's Zen 2-based laptop CPUs won't hit store shelves until some time around Q1 2020. The publication mentions that the release window isn't set in stone yet, but that it makes sense, seeing how AMD just refreshed their Ryzen APU lineup with 12nm silicon at CES. The performance per $ of the 7nm mobile processors is supposedly "very competitive" compared to Intel's current lineup, but their 10nm CPUs are supposed to hit the shelves around the end of 2019 too. Additionally, Acer, Asus, and HP are the only OEMs that WCCF confirmed will support AMD's 7nm mobility lineup, while Tongfang, Clevo, and MSI are said to be skipping the launch.

    It appears to be wholly and solely volunteered decision taken by these companies. The rationale behind this is simple, both NVIDIA and Intel provide complimentary support (in the form of technical assistance and marketing support) and availability warranties to these companies, thanks to a healthy relationship and this translates into significant cost savings and QA. AMD does not have the financial ability to provide this level of support right now to everyone (they *are* providing this to some extent to Acer, ASUS and HP) and is not able to provide the relevant warranties - which is why Clevo, Tongfang and MSI feel they do not want to risk picking up AMD 7nm right now.
     
  2. travisty

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    Which is why I won't be buying an MSI laptop. I will not support Intel or Nvidia at this point.
     
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    viper1152012 [H]ard|Gawd

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    Can't wait. Ive been on an i5 4th gen waiting for something new and gr8. Almost got ryzen 5 2nd but wanted that sweet 7nm
     
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  4. mkk

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    Might still see some laptop models with 7nm Ryzen and Navi graphics in Q3/Q4 this year.
     
  5. Legendary Gamer

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    What's kind of sad is that Ryzen on mobile / laptop has been incredibly slow catching on. I've seen more options lately and even picked out a 2200 17" unit for a friend... But the options are quite limited and it's a great processor.

    I really don't see AMD gaining much traction here, never really did in the past either.
     
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    I figure HP alone sells more laptops than Clevo, Tongfang, and MSI combined, so I don't think those companies not being on board is a big loss for AMD.
    If AMD could also get Dell and Lenovo onboard, that would be a huge win!
     
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    I have a ThinkPad A485 with a Ryzen 5 2500U chip, and unfortunately, the Lenovo-supplied drivers are not good. TDP management is bad, and negatively affects both performance (especially iGPU) and battery life. It's not bad enough for me to return the product, but it's bad enough that I wouldn't consider getting another Ryzen laptop until I see the driver situation improve.
     
  8. Sindalis

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    i have a Lenovo Y50 (4720HQ, 860m) that I've been looking to upgrade for about a year.

    With hope it can last long enough for these new CPU's to exist so that, in the not to distant future, we will get Navi, for a GPU upgrade, and a Zen 2 for my CPU so that I wont have to buy another Intel+Nvidia laptop.

    I mean really. Why reward said companies for either stagnation and/or price gouging respectively?
     
  9. Legendary Gamer

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    I thought that AMD just made an announcement that their driver suite would now cover the mobile product lineup as well. If that's the case, you might just very well be in luck.
     
  10. Legendary Gamer

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    Dell has a couple units with the Ryzen in them but they're not rugged enough for us to hand out to our user base. They're the shittier , lower end models. Not the business class designs with crappy Intel graphics we are using. If they ever make the leap into full on business class laptops then my corporation will listen to me and adopt them...
     
  11. Gigantopithecus

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    They did! I gave it a try but it kept failing. Waiting on Lenovo support... :confused:
     
  12. CKing123

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    Actually, AMD stated that these universal drivers are slated to release in February. Right now, the drivers are still only for desktop raven ridge and/or Vega discrete GPUs.
     
  13. Legendary Gamer

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    Thank you, my friend, you're right.

    In a month's time he'll have some better luck.
     
  14. Gigantopithecus

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    I can read, I swear!

    Thanks, I had not noted that relevant detail...hopefully my laptop's performance will improve next month.
     
  15. defaultluser

    defaultluser [H]ardForum Junkie

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    A laptop release for Raven Ridge's successor means the desktop release is not far behind. I've been waiting long enough to upgrade the i3 3225 in my HTPC, and with memory prices right now is perfect. Hopefully I can nurse this thing thing through another year :D

    Will they be staying with 4 cores for the 15w laptop APU, or upgrading to 6 or 8?
     
  16. KazeoHin

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    Too little, too late. Intel will have their next gen notebook CPUs out and they will out perform Zen2 at low power points.

    In order for AMD to take a significant chunk of the mobile market they need to have a superior product in EVERY SINGLE REGARD. essentially, it needs to be faster, cheaper, use less power AND be more stable and reliable in testing: and then, MAYBE THEN the big OEMs might CONSIDER using it in 5% of their models. The issue is that with Intel's dominance, people will perform mental gymnastics to justify the Intel purchase unless there is simply no conceivable reason. If the AMD product is faster, uses less power, is cheaper but it fails a stability test 2% more frequently than Intel: nope. Sorry. Intel has the superior product! If AMD has a product that is rock-solid stable, cheaper, uses less power, but isn't faster? Welp, good effort, but Intel still wins.
    AMD has an uphill battle on their hands. I'm not sure they're up to it releasing so late...
     
  17. steakman1971

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    I agree - Intel has had the better mobile processing platform for years. The last AMD laptop I had (probably 10 years ago) was not that good. It had poor performance and worse battery life. We will see what AMD produces - I suspect they will be catching up but likely not beating Intel this round.
     
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    Ah, I can wait yet another year for a personal laptop. I've been pushing people around me to buy AMD but most react like I am offering them second class everything. I'll never get it
     
  19. Chimpee

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    Yea, feel like if they release it Q3 2019, it will give them more traction being also back to school season. Q1 2020 is just weird timing for me since it is after the Holiday buying season.