AMD Threadripper Cooling Update

[FrgMstr]

Moving forward...

 

[ZeqOBpf6]

I got one second in to the video and I am already impressed, seriously. This is the first time I've seen that but your intro has cool graphics, a cool sound that isn't obnoxious, and most importantly, it's a one second intro.

EDIT: Holy shit that Resource Monitor on the left.

 

[FrgMstr]

I got one second in to the video and I am already impressed, seriously. This is the first time I've seen that but your intro has cool graphics, a cool sound that isn't obnoxious, and most importantly, it's a one second intro.

Sometimes less is better.

 

[Nokia]

Thanks for what you do. Waiting on final results before I decide to drop that much cash on a new system.

 

[Folterknecht]

ok

 

[FrgMstr]

ok

And my comments were directed at THG, not you.

 

[ssnyder28]

Looks like a nice pile of cpus under your monitor

 

[Balthazar2k4]

I just installed the Liqtech 360 TR4 on my 1950x. Big improvement over the Corsair H100v2. I could run at 4GHz, but temps would run around 76c running two HEVC encodes. While certainly doable I backed it off to 3.9ghz and now see temps below 70c. Haven't tried Prime95 yet...

 

[Burticus]

75c! That seems like a lot. Is it a lot? I don't have a CoreJizzer so I don't know.

 

[Balthazar2k4]

75c! That seems like a lot. Is it a lot? I don't have a CoreJizzer so I don't know.

I am officially adopting CoreJizzer as the replacement for Threadripper. Hope you don't mind.

As for the temps, well, these processors tend to run pretty warm when you OC and 75c is still 10c below the throttle point so it is certainly within normal operating limits.

 

[FrgMstr]

75c! That seems like a lot. Is it a lot? I don't have a CoreJizzer so I don't know.

16 cores / 32 threads under one heatspreader at 4GHz?

 

[FrgMstr]

I am officially adopting CoreJizzer as the replacement for Threadripper. Hope you don't mind.

As for the temps, well, these processors tend to run pretty warm when you OC and 75c is still 10c below the throttle point so it is certainly within normal operating limits.

poof! Jizz....it sticks. See what I did there?

 

[iNViSiGOD]

I for one am glad to see these videos again. As someone who has mild autism having the visuals in a video really helps put things in perspective. Thanks Kyle!

 

[pendragon1]

hahaha someones got a nice new custom title!

 

[Balthazar2k4]

hahaha someones got a nice new custom title!

Ironically, I'm not even the one who came up with, but I do think CoreJizzer is a pretty damn funny replacement for Threadripper. After all, they are both pretty dumb, juvenile sounding names. Regardless, it's Kyle's site so I am down for whatever.

 

[Quartz-1]

Just a suggestion but you might want to make your keyboards more visually distinct. When I have multiple PCs on the go, I have one black keyboard and one beige keyboard. I also try to have visually distinct trackballs. This helps prevent accidentally nuking the wrong system.

 

[FrgMstr]

Just a suggestion but you might want to make your keyboards more visually distinct. When I have multiple PCs on the go, I have one black keyboard and one beige keyboard. I also try to have visually distinct trackballs. This helps prevent accidentally nuking the wrong system.

That is why the USB keys and keyboard have a blue piece of tape stuck on.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

Ironically, I'm not even the one who came up with, but I do think CoreJizzer is a pretty damn funny replacement for Threadripper. After all, they are both pretty dumb, juvenile sounding names. Regardless, it's Kyle's site so I am down for whatever.

juvenile or not it's still nice to see companies having a little fun with their product naming.

 

[doyll]

Very well done!
I normally avoid videos because of all the garbage being shown and said. Yours is short and to the point.

 

[Deleted member 93354]

Ironically, I'm not even the one who came up with, but I do think CoreJizzer is a pretty damn funny replacement for Threadripper. After all, they are both pretty dumb, juvenile sounding names. Regardless, it's Kyle's site so I am down for whatever.

Why do you think Threadripper is juvenile? It does what it sounds like.

 

[Balthazar2k4]

Why do you think Threadripper is juvenile? It does what it sounds like.

That is one way of looking at it. I have spent too long in Intel's world of Core ix and am not used to a company having a little fun with their processor names. Intel has conditioned and brainwashed me. I still think they could have come up with something better sounding than Threadripper even if that is its intended function. Doesn't really matter in the end as I now use one as my primary machine. First time back in the AMD fold in more than 15 years. I'm glad to be back.

 

[Burticus]

I am officially adopting CoreJizzer as the replacement for Threadripper. Hope you don't mind.

Actually back when Threadripper was announced there was a forum thread with "alternative" names, "CoreJizzer" was one of my suggestions.

Another popular one (not mine) was CoreGasm.

Anyway it's a real product now and AMD hasn't sent me any royalty checks for the name change, so I guess it didn't take.

 

[Balthazar2k4]

Actually back when Threadripper was announced there was a forum thread with "alternative" names, "CoreJizzer" was one of my suggestions.

Another popular one (not mine) was CoreGasm.

Anyway it's a real product now and AMD hasn't sent me any royalty checks for the name change, so I guess it didn't take.

Well, I'm CoreJizzer for Life now

 

[Burticus]

Well, I'm CoreJizzer for Life now

I see what you did there!

 

[FrgMstr]

Got a new motherboard on the bench, and took me nine hours to get it dialed in to run Threadripper at 4GHz with the latest version of Prime95 for an hour without failure, but it did load the cooling up!

 

[LurkerLito]

I just installed the Liqtech 360 TR4 on my 1950x. Big improvement over the Corsair H100v2. I could run at 4GHz, but temps would run around 76c running two HEVC encodes. While certainly doable I backed it off to 3.9ghz and now see temps below 70c. Haven't tried Prime95 yet...

That sounds great to me. My i7-3770k at 4.4 can hits 80-81 on hot days so I if the Liquitech 240 can keep a load at 80c I'd keep it there personally when I get one. I have been going back and forth about getting either the 240 vs the 360 version for my TR build. I want the 360 but the case I bought the Rosewill B2 Stealth looks like it can mount the 360 but the top design has this chimney thing that looks like it would only let the air blow out the top for 2 fans (or a 240 radiator) at best. I am thinking I might remove those "noise reducing" features and the front door (or dremel some slits in the front door). BTW Does anyone know if you run a 360 radiator and only use 2 fans would the temps be a bit better or equal to just using a 240 radiator?

 

[Burticus]

Well, I'm CoreJizzer for Life now

Hey Balthazar, what's the ballpark cha-ching on that rig? Minus monitor, 1080ti etc

 

[Balthazar2k4]

Hey Balthazar, what's the ballpark cha-ching on that rig? Minus monitor, 1080ti etc

Well, I've got about ~$1700 in the processor, motherboard, ram, and cooler. Probably $3600 with everything minus monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

 

[Balthazar2k4]

Quick update on the Enermax Liqtech 360 TR4 cooler. I have my machine OC'ed to 4GHz and I ran Prime95 Small FFT for 15 minutes just to get an idea as I have other things I actually need to be doing on a Saturday morning. The cooler leveled out around 80c and the machine was 100% stable at 1.325v. It is important to note that I am NOT running the Enermax fans, but a set of Corsair HD120 RGB. The Enermax most likely offer improved cooling performance, but I am satisfied with the Corsair at this point. I am able to run my machine at 4GHz with little concern now and that's all I wanted. I am guessing it would have climbed higher had it been given more time, but let's face it does one really ever run a load as stressful as Prime95 on a daily basis? I have been running HEVC encodes via Handbrake two at a time since I built the machine. This pretty much swamps the cores and actually gets something done I need done. Frankly, for $150 the Enermax cooler is a great value in my book.

 

[FrgMstr]

Quick update on the Enermax Liqtech 360 TR4 cooler. I have my machine OC'ed to 4GHz and I ran Prime95 Small FFT for 15 minutes just to get an idea as I have other things I actually need to be doing on a Saturday morning. The cooler leveled out around 80c and the machine was 100% stable at 1.325v. It is important to note that I am NOT running the Enermax fans, but a set of Corsair HD120 RGB. The Enermax most likely offer improved cooling performance, but I am satisfied with the Corsair at this point. I am able to run my machine at 4GHz with little concern now and that's all I wanted. I am guessing it would have climbed higher had it been given more time, but let's face it does one really ever run a load as stressful as Prime95 on a daily basis? I have been running HEVC encodes via Handbrake two at a time since I built the machine. This pretty much swamps the cores and actually gets something done I need done. Frankly, for $150 the Enermax cooler is a great value in my book.

Prime95 will pull considerably more wattage through the CPU than two instances of HandBrake.

 

[FrgMstr]

About 70 watts more according to HWmonitor. I saw peaks of 330w with Prime95 SFFT vs ~260 watts with two Handbrake instances. This translated into about a +7c increase in temps with Prime95 vs Handbrake.

With voltages that I have been using for 4GHz/3200MHz and getting it stable for an hour with Prime95 SFFT I was pulling 478W at the wall. I also started using Seasonic Titanium efficiency PSUs. My old PSUs were showing 530W.

 

[FrgMstr]

Getting really good mates with the latest method of installing the TIM.

 

[FrgMstr]

That's obviously more than just the processor. I am using 1.325v Vcore to achieve a 'stable' 4GHz. I am running my Dominator 3000 memory at 3200 with somewhat relaxed C16 timings. I have everything else on the board set to auto. The MSI board has really been fantastic with the latest beta BIOS. My ultimate point in the previous update on the Liqtech 360 TR4 is that it is capable of achieving 4GHz for daily driving.

CPU Package wattage at the one hour mark was 366W.

 

[Folterknecht]

That sounds great to me. My i7-3770k at 4.4 can hits 80-81 on hot days so I if the Liquitech 240 can keep a load at 80c I'd keep it there personally when I get one. I have been going back and forth about getting either the 240 vs the 360 version for my TR build. I want the 360 but the case I bought the Rosewill B2 Stealth looks like it can mount the 360 but the top design has this chimney thing that looks like it would only let the air blow out the top for 2 fans (or a 240 radiator) at best. I am thinking I might remove those "noise reducing" features and the front door (or dremel some slits in the front door). BTW Does anyone know if you run a 360 radiator and only use 2 fans would the temps be a bit better or equal to just using a 240 radiator?

Not 100% if I understand you corretly!

Going from 240mm to 360mm on the 3770K won't improve the situation there. Looking at your temps with the 240mm, you are struggling with bad heat transfer between DIE und IHS, only delidding and liquid metal will help there.

 

[LurkerLito]

Not 100% if I understand you corretly!

Going from 240mm to 360mm on the 3770K won't improve the situation there. Looking at your temps with the 240mm, you are struggling with bad heat transfer between DIE und IHS, only delidding and liquid metal will help there.

Yeah what I wrote wasn't clear. I was taking about for my upcoming threadripper build. I have a choice of the enermax TR4 240 or 360, and I have been thinking of getting the 360 version. The case I bought that is on the way, doesn't officially support 360 radiators, but it has all the mounting holes for 3x120mm fans or 3x140mm fans, so it should mount fine. But the top of the case has this chimney thing that raises and lowers, but it's size is only equal to about 2x140 so the fully installed 360 radiator wouldn't have the fan closest to the 5.25" drive bays installed since there is no exhaust out the top for the air being pushed out. So the question is if I installed a 360 radiator with only 2 fans would the cooling still be better than the 240 or is it negligible. After some googling I am thinking it's only slightly better than the 240 but I might still go for the 360 version and maybe just mod the case a bit.

 

[FrgMstr]

Now with 2 TR blocks tested with "low grade" TIM, maybe with all that surface area, a TIM with 5X the thermal conductivity will show us different results?

 

[FrgMstr]

What TIM are you switching to?

Prolimatech PK-1

 

[Full Otto]

Kyle,

Does this mean you are FINALLY getting around to that TIM review?

 

[LMT MFA]

Those surfaces are probably very flat, just get it over with and put some Conductonaut on that sumbitch.

After delidding my 3770K and running it with that stuff under the spreader and some highend normal stuff under the cooler I had a great improvement, but after a while I just said screw it and put some Conductonaut under the cooler as well, think I dropped another 5 degrees (unscientific gut feeling).

Just make sure to put it on relatively thin, and only over the cores, not to the edge of the spreader, otherwise it could run over and cause trouble, also very thinly wet the CPU block with it.

Why am I even telling this, like you don't know how to apply that stuff, har.

 

[James Robinson]

... or you can do what it LOOKS like you did in teh pic... just spackle on some rancid peanut butter? The only question I have is, are you going with the Orange Marmalade or Cherry preserves?