AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

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  1. erek

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  2. Master_shake_

    Master_shake_ Little Bitch

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    Didn't see price what is it?
     
  3. drescherjm

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    Pricing is at the bottom of that article. With that said I don't see a reduction from the current prices.
     
  4. quasar56

    quasar56 n00bie

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    Looks like the 2700X is replacing the 1800X as the flagship for now with the 2700 taking over at the 1700X price point...no price reduction but higher performance at both price points.
     
  5. CombatChrisNC

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    So... no 2800x? 2600x for sure looks even sweeter. Got to be honest, I was hoping to see RAM supported higher than 3000.
     
  6. MaZa

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    Makes sense. I mean, 1800x really was a pointless product. While it did quarantee high stock clocks it was meaningless when it came to overclocking, it was still a complete crapshoot. 1700 was simply a better deal and you had just as good (or bad) chances of hitting the 4.0ghz wall as any 1800X and only a slim hope that it is actually 100% stable at that speed.
     
  7. KazeoHin

    KazeoHin [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm not happy with the 105w rating of the 2700X.

    10% more TDP for 10% higher clockspeed... Not exactly the miracle improvement we were hoping for...
     
  8. Brackle

    Brackle Old Timer

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    Compared to Intel's 8700k which is 6 cores @ 95W, that is pretty damn good if you ask me. Specially if its 4.4ghz @105w. That is pretty damn good for 8cores. Just my 0.02c
     
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  9. Mav451

    Mav451 [H]ardness Supreme

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    This is the only part I'm most interested in. Pretty sizeable bump if we're assuming this is avg/median clocks.
     
  10. KazeoHin

    KazeoHin [H]ardness Supreme

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    You're not wrong, but Ryzen 1st gen was already impressive in that regard. This isn't much more efficient.
     
  11. Brackle

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    Efficient compared to what? I mean I agree this isn't earth shattering bump in performance I agree with that. But neither was the 6700k to 7700k.

    To be fair you could even compare the 2700x to the 7820X. 8 Cores to 8 Cores. The 2700x is 105W for 8/16 CPU. The 7820x is 140w for 8/16 CPU. IF you ask me that is very fucking efficient compared to Intel's 8core CPU......TBH You cant get much more efficient than that.
     
  12. cjcox

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    "But it's Intel..." (say with a whiny voice while stomping feet)
     
  13. KazeoHin

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    I'm holding AMD to AMD. AMD was already more efficient than Intel, but this new chip isn't much more efficient than Ryzen Gen 1.
     
  14. Brackle

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    You make it sound like it’s a bad thing. Intel does this all the time. It’s to be expected. Specially for a 8core cpu.
     
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  15. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

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    As a resident "bang for the buck" whore, a new 1700x is "only" $270 right now. 18% more performance for 37% more money.

    Probably should be priced in the $329 range.
     
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    I agree. If anything I think the bang for the buck will be the new 2600x. But it all depends what it can clock up to. If it can hit 4.4ghz like the 2700k.....well I would get one of those over a 2700x.
     
  17. Jayy88

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    I think the 1600x is real bang for you're buck right now right at only around $200. I think it's awesome idea try to convince some to throw that together with a good board to learn Ryzen. And probably have some fun doing it.
     
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  18. Rvenger

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    MSRP is not $270
     
  19. Speedeu4ia

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    Increased clock speed always uses more power, you can't have both
     
  20. dook43

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    If it gets 4.4 on the CH6 I'm getting one
     
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    At least it's linear and not exponential. The latter one would concern me for a refresh.
     
  22. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

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    Fair enough (although current price on newegg) so maybe we can get the 2700x at $329 soonish.
     
  23. juanrga

    juanrga Pro-Intel / Anti-AMD Just FYI

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    2700X replaces both 1800X and 1700X

    AMD-Ryzen-2000-Series-1000x563.jpg
     
  24. juanrga

    juanrga Pro-Intel / Anti-AMD Just FYI

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    Relabeling an extension of 14nm as 12nm wasn't going to provide any technical miracle. Why do you believe Glofo is not even offering 12LP to general customers?

    https://www.globalfoundries.com/technology-solutions/cmos/performance

    Some of us expected 200--400MHz extra for Pinnacle Ridge. Those 10% extra TDP provides about 5% higher clocks. So the new node brings about 5% higher clocks on the 2700X and the other ~5% are the result of increasing the TDP to 105W.

    Except those former 95W AMD chips real TDP was 128W, so one cannot compare marketing TDPs for both companies.

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    So, it is pretty evident those new 105W chips will not be 105W, but real TDP will be higher.
     
  25. Brackle

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    • take a few days off and learn to play nice
    Man thats a funny ass graph you made up there mr CTS-LABS. I could of done a better job then that piece of work. I know you are trying very hard to prove everyone in this forum wrong. Just won't work anymore, 99% of the people on here know you are full of it.
     
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  26. IdiotInCharge

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    Hopefully that TDP increase is real TDP, and not 'AMD TDP'

    ;)

    [sarcasm aside, I do hope that AMD has managed to at least maintain performance / watt while upping clockspeeds a smidgen]
     
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  27. juanrga

    juanrga Pro-Intel / Anti-AMD Just FYI

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    I think performance per watt would improve on all models, except maybe the top 2700X. It seems the updated node[let] has been improved in the middle F/V region. This would explain why all middle models maintain the same official TDPs than first gen Ryzen.
     
  28. Master_shake_

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    is there a source for that?

    power_gaming.png

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    i can do that too you know.

    7700k 152 watt TDP!

     
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  30. Nightfire

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    Of course not Silly Billy. This is Juangra we are talking about. He will ignore are legitimate sites to fit his agenda and post some random outlier.
     
  31. stm

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    Either my CPU or mobo crapped out so I found myself in need to build something in a week and got an 1800x. Hate to do so with the 2700x around the corner, but got the 1800x for ~$255. Don't intend to overclock, any other particular reason I might regret the purchase?
     
  32. Mega6

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    In a couple weeks.
     
  33. sirmonkey1985

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    if you don't intend on overclocking the 1800x is fine. i've enjoyed the hell out of my R5 1600 and this is honestly the first processor i haven't felt the need to overclock, it does everything i need perfectly. zen 2 will be coming out some time in 2019 which will work on AM4 as well and that should be the go to processor after the 1800x.
     
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    I really don't upgrade real often given that I'm more active in the mobile world. Hell my last 2 builds were a Q9550 -> 4790K -> this.... So maybe a Ryzen 4 is in my future :)
     
  35. sirmonkey1985

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    zen 2 will be the last generation that goes onto the am4 platform, after that it'll be switching to DDR5 most likely with zen 2+/3 or what ever they end up designating it. so if you don't upgrade often that'll probably be the one to get and just sit on it for a few years since i'm sure ddr5 prices will be just as screwed up as ddr4 prices when amd and intel switch to it in 2020 or later.
     
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  36. juanrga

    juanrga Pro-Intel / Anti-AMD Just FYI

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    Do you mean a source for the real TDP of 1800X being 128W? Of course

    CPCHardware guys also confirmed the real TDP of the 1700 is 90W



    The TPU graphs are really interesting, so they are measuring higher power consumption during gaming than during a power virus test? Also let me recall that TDPs aren't measured with power virus with unrealistic 100% AVX loads.
     
  37. juanrga

    juanrga Pro-Intel / Anti-AMD Just FYI

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    Not only sources there exist, contradicting your claim that there is no sources, but HFR got confirmation from AMD of which are the real TDPs (as quoted above). It is also kind of ironic that you reject the ordinary results of a respected top tech site, but support the weird results of a less respected site, that is measuring more power consumption during gaming than during a power virus test. :rolleyes:
     
  38. Master_shake_

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    and yet the REAL TDP of the 7700k is 152-154.

    i mean i have a source therefore it's real.

    see how it works?
     
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  39. juanrga

    juanrga Pro-Intel / Anti-AMD Just FYI

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    But not all sources are the same. And part of the art of finding references consists on differentiating good sources from bad sources. There are good sources as HFR (whose findings are confirmed by AMD) and there are bad sources, whose findings are nonsensical.

    Your argument there is a source so it is real is as pretending that just because one can find a website that says that Earth is flat, the Earth is flat, as if that website had the same validity as source than website from the NASA for instance.
     
  40. Master_shake_

    Master_shake_ Little Bitch

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    152 watts juan

    152 WATTS!

    and has exploits to beat the band juan

    so lets recap.

    152 watts and shit loads of REEEAL exploits.

    are you saying the TPU isn't a real source?

    is that what you are going with jaun?

    cause i need to know.
     
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