AMD Press Release on AM4 Motherboard X370 Chipset Specifications

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  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Now that all the GTX 1080 Ti #FakeNews is over with for the day, we can get down to real things to talk about. AMD just sent out a press release that has a some tidbits of #RealNews about its upcoming X370 (and others) chipset that will support its Ryzen processor.

     
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    I am super stoked for this. Do we have any dates for release yet?
     
  3. rgMekanic

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    Any hints at an eATX board at launch?
     
  4. Kyle_Bennett

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    I am GUESSING about 1 to 2 months out minimum. And that is very much a ever-so-slightly educated guess.

    No clue as of right now.
     
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  5. LigTasm

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    Perfect, works for me. I'm going out of state for a few months on monday for work training, maybe it'll be out when I get home.
     
  6. cageymaru

    cageymaru [H]ard|News

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    Even without the 1080ti, this CES has been more noteworthy than most in the past 5 years. I'm hoping that ASUS has a ROG Crosshair Formula VI version cooking in the labs. I bet that some on these boards in the Folding@Home community would like a ASUS WS version.
     
  7. Dan_D

    Dan_D [H]ardOCP Motherboard Editor

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    All it really does is say that the upcoming chipsets have the features that Intel's had for the last two years. Congrats? I wish we new how many PCIe lanes we'd get, how many SATA ports, etc.
     
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  8. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Got a new water block plumbed in today to do some tests in hope that Ryzen will be here soon. Not holding my breath though on delivery.
     
  9. Kyle_Bennett

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    Yeah, I think this PR was more about, "Let's lay the small stuff out there and save the exciting stuff for later." One thing that AMD has never been, when it comes to CPU technology and platforms, is NOT forward looking. I have faith, or at least optimism there.
     
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    STrAYeR Limp Gawd

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    I thinking of moving over to AM4. I'm just hoping for current tech on AMD boards. Save some cash on an AMD build and not get wallet pounded by Intel. Hopefully 4000 mhz ddr 4 will be doable.
     
  12. jmilcher

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    I was thinking the exact same thing.

    So AMD will offer boards with features finally that caught up to Intel mb chipsets. I don't see how this revolutionary by any means.

    Unless they with held more details.
     
  13. DragonMantis

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    Well, getting AMD caught up to Intel is a good sign. Particularly since Intel has really not done much innovation on the desktop side in a long time. I'm still rocking a 6-year-old 2600K...albeit with an SSD in the system and as of last week a GTX1070 graphics card.
     
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    Any clue based on previous benchmarks how much of the "improvement" in ZEN is from new mb chipset, ddr 4 (what speeds?), and whatever crazy drive they may have used (samsung or intel 500$+ drives?)...

    i think its awesome that we can have all the toys in a few months but ... wayyyy back in the day we often saw benchmarks for ddr2 vs ddr 3 (even boards that supported both!) or 5-10% gains from a new drive (going from 5400 to 10k) etc... so throwing all this super tech in plus new cpu... how much are the benchmarks amd shows us due to cpu and how much are due to all the toys that go with it?
     
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    The sad truth is that from Sandy Bridge to Kaby Lake, Clock for Clock there isn't a revolutionary increase in performance, and with so very many programs unable to properly utilize multiple cores....

    At this stage, my personal hope is that Zen brings performance equal to Haswell, at 1/2 the cost of Kaby Lake. I would really like to be able to recommend an AMD processor again for budget builds.
     
  16. Dan_D

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    I figure it will at least reach rough parity with Z170 / Z270 Express chipset based boards at least. I was hoping for a platform that was less expensive, but had features closer to X99 without that platforms dated restrictions. We'll have to wait and see what the specifications actually are. Either way I'm excited to get something different on the bench. Z270 is virtually indistinguishable from Z170 from a user's perspective.
     
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    Interesting, specific chipset for ITX.
     
  18. ThatsAgood1jay

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    I can't wait for this stuff to hit the market and see some performance specs. Been holding off a long time on re-building my PC because I wanted to see what AMD could put together. Glad to see they have all the stuff intel has had for past few years, but what else could they possibly add that Intel maybe doesn't?
     
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    I'm bored to death. I've had this 3570K for what seems like an eternity.

    I've been considering going X99 with a 6800K. I feel like I've waited this long I may as well hold off 2-3 more months and see if AMD finally comes out with something that can legit compete. If it is close enough or (shockingly) better than the 6800K I may have to give AMD a try. The last CPU I had from them was a 3200+. So yes it has been a while... Too long.
     
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    This has me wondering if the desktop boards (with overclocking support) will use last years CPU heatsinks to cool the VRMs. AMD certainly has figured out how to funnel power into stable systems.
     
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    These motherboards wouldn't launch without zen right?
     
  22. Twisted Kidney

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    So basically, much like most PC enthusiasts, you have a little guy in the back of your head chanting "PLEASE DON'T SUCK" as you wait for samples.

    Of course, you'll probably have to buy your "samples". You big AMD-hater-face you.
     
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  23. PanzeR-

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    More PCIE lanes without having to buy a 600$+ CPU
     
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  24. Dan_D

    Dan_D [H]ardOCP Motherboard Editor

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    Exactly.
     
  25. ebduncan

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    well at least the platform is modern, and currently supports everything Intel does, minus thundebolt 3.

    Like Dan_D has said we've known this already. They could have released PCI-E specs as well, since well we still don't know anything about those. I'd personally like to see 32 lanes x16 bandwidth.

    Fun factoid. AMD released the lid on the AM3+ motherboards before Bulldozer was released. Seems they are doing it again, releasing the motherboards before the cpu. The difference is this time I will wait for official benchmarks haha.
     
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    The only difference this time around would be am4 being used by the earlier APUs for OEMs, so they have some excuse for being out
     
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    I know EXACTLY what you mean. I'm so bored with my rig that I've started delving into other hobbies more. Current games are finally reaching a level where in needing some more performance and a few more months to see what Zen brings is worth it to me. Always been an AMD guy since I was a broke ass gamer and they had unlocked quad cores for $100. I'd prefer to stick with them for sentimental reasons.
     
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    Well that's kind of the big deal AMD finally appears to be at parity with Intel. I see what you are saying, but it is a good thing for AMD to be "caught up".
     
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    If the board lets you go from 4 Cores to 8 Cores on a single platform then its a slight upgrade over Intels strategy of different chipset for differing CPU core amounts even if it only matches in feature parity.
     
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    They could launch before Zen. Remember there are already AM4 CPUs (AMD Bristol Ridge).
     
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    I just hope that the boards are stable and the pcie, m2, usb 3.1 etc ports all work as expected. If it's stable and it works (same for Ryzen) AMD could make a bit of a comeback. But I'm pretty worried it's too much new all at once... I feel like it's a given that something won't work properly and hopefully it's fixable with bios updates and doesn't tank the performance post fix.
     
  32. Dan_D

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    They need to not only have feature parity, but performance parity. In the past, AMD's USB and SATA performance has sometimes been way behind Intel's chipsets.
     
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    I am curious to find out which motherboard system has better performance and less heat issues with NVMe M.2's between AM4 370, 350 vs z270? Will AM4 have the same number of lanes for M.2 as a z270?
     
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    As evidenced in this thread, they all have a varied amount of pcie lanes. What remains to be seen is the ammount of pcie lanes each cpu sku have.
     
  35. Dan_D

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    The heat issues with NVMe drives has nothing to do with the chipset or even the CPU. It has everything to do with slot placement relative to the GPU.
     
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    In addition to the M2 to PCIe adaptors apparently there are cables for internal M2 to M2 and M2 to U2 (like the second product in this http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asrock-usb-3.1-type-c,29605.html) that would let things be moved around.

    But yeah its a problem of shoehorning a mobile solution into a desktop usage that doesn't benefit much from the form factor. Motherboard designers could also put it above or to the side of the GPU as well.
     
  37. Dan_D

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    U.2 is what I'd prefer used more frequently on the desktop. I agree with you in that M.2 is better suited to mobile use and there are plenty of issues trying to make use of it on desktop motherboards.
     
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    Dude, somebody has to shoehorn an X370 in a ITX with 2x PCI-E slots for dual(quad?) Vega for the Lan party box. Heh! Oh, if only Abit was still around.
     
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    Why no mention of DisplayPort and HDMI or which version? I expected the new AM4 to have Display Port 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. I hope they have support for the latest NVMe specs. Also, will the new AM4 be backward compatible or no?
     
  40. rgMekanic

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    Because none of these have integrated graphics, and they will not be backward comparable