AMD Press Release on AM4 Motherboard X370 Chipset Specifications

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Now that all the GTX 1080 Ti #FakeNews is over with for the day, we can get down to real things to talk about. AMD just sent out a press release that has a some tidbits of #RealNews about its upcoming X370 (and others) chipset that will support its Ryzen processor.

... two upcoming desktop chipsets for AMD Ryzen processors: the X370 and X300. X370 chipset-based motherboards are designed for those who need the most performance, cutting-edge features, and superior I/O connectivity from their PCs including support for overclocking1, and dual graphics. For users looking for performance in a more compact size, the X300 chipset also features an AMD Ryzen-ready AM4 socket while utilizing the mini-ITX size ideal for small form factor PCs. Both chipsets take full advantage of innovative technology features including:
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I am super stoked for this. Do we have any dates for release yet?
 
Even without the 1080ti, this CES has been more noteworthy than most in the past 5 years. I'm hoping that ASUS has a ROG Crosshair Formula VI version cooking in the labs. I bet that some on these boards in the Folding@Home community would like a ASUS WS version.
 
All it really does is say that the upcoming chipsets have the features that Intel's had for the last two years. Congrats? I wish we new how many PCIe lanes we'd get, how many SATA ports, etc.
 
cageymaru said:
Even without the 1080ti, this CES has been more noteworthy than most in the past 5 years. I'm hoping that ASUS has a ROG Crosshair Formula VI version cooking in the labs. I bet that some on these boards in the Folding@Home community would like a ASUS WS version.
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Got a new water block plumbed in today to do some tests in hope that Ryzen will be here soon. Not holding my breath though on delivery.
 
Dan_D said:
All it really does is say that the upcoming chipsets have the features that Intel's had for the last two years. Congrats? I wish we new how many PCIe lanes we'd get, how many SATA ports, etc.
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Yeah, I think this PR was more about, "Let's lay the small stuff out there and save the exciting stuff for later." One thing that AMD has never been, when it comes to CPU technology and platforms, is NOT forward looking. I have faith, or at least optimism there.
 
I thinking of moving over to AM4. I'm just hoping for current tech on AMD boards. Save some cash on an AMD build and not get wallet pounded by Intel. Hopefully 4000 mhz ddr 4 will be doable.
 
Dan_D said:
All it really does is say that the upcoming chipsets have the features that Intel's had for the last two years. Congrats? I wish we new how many PCIe lanes we'd get, how many SATA ports, etc.
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I was thinking the exact same thing.

So AMD will offer boards with features finally that caught up to Intel mb chipsets. I don't see how this revolutionary by any means.

Unless they with held more details.
 
Dan_D said:
All it really does is say that the upcoming chipsets have the features that Intel's had for the last two years. Congrats? I wish we new how many PCIe lanes we'd get, how many SATA ports, etc.
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Well, getting AMD caught up to Intel is a good sign. Particularly since Intel has really not done much innovation on the desktop side in a long time. I'm still rocking a 6-year-old 2600K...albeit with an SSD in the system and as of last week a GTX1070 graphics card.
 
Any clue based on previous benchmarks how much of the "improvement" in ZEN is from new mb chipset, ddr 4 (what speeds?), and whatever crazy drive they may have used (samsung or intel 500$+ drives?)...

i think its awesome that we can have all the toys in a few months but ... wayyyy back in the day we often saw benchmarks for ddr2 vs ddr 3 (even boards that supported both!) or 5-10% gains from a new drive (going from 5400 to 10k) etc... so throwing all this super tech in plus new cpu... how much are the benchmarks amd shows us due to cpu and how much are due to all the toys that go with it?
 
DragonMantis said:
Well, getting AMD caught up to Intel is a good sign. Particularly since Intel has really not done much innovation on the desktop side in a long time. I'm still rocking a 6-year-old 2600K...albeit with an SSD in the system and as of last week a GTX1070 graphics card.
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The sad truth is that from Sandy Bridge to Kaby Lake, Clock for Clock there isn't a revolutionary increase in performance, and with so very many programs unable to properly utilize multiple cores....

At this stage, my personal hope is that Zen brings performance equal to Haswell, at 1/2 the cost of Kaby Lake. I would really like to be able to recommend an AMD processor again for budget builds.
 
I can't wait for this stuff to hit the market and see some performance specs. Been holding off a long time on re-building my PC because I wanted to see what AMD could put together. Glad to see they have all the stuff intel has had for past few years, but what else could they possibly add that Intel maybe doesn't?
 
I'm bored to death. I've had this 3570K for what seems like an eternity.

I've been considering going X99 with a 6800K. I feel like I've waited this long I may as well hold off 2-3 more months and see if AMD finally comes out with something that can legit compete. If it is close enough or (shockingly) better than the 6800K I may have to give AMD a try. The last CPU I had from them was a 3200+. So yes it has been a while... Too long.
 
limitedaccess said:
Interesting, specific chipset for ITX.
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This has me wondering if the desktop boards (with overclocking support) will use last years CPU heatsinks to cool the VRMs. AMD certainly has figured out how to funnel power into stable systems.
 
These motherboards wouldn't launch without zen right?
 
ThatsAgood1jay said:
I can't wait for this stuff to hit the market and see some performance specs. Been holding off a long time on re-building my PC because I wanted to see what AMD could put together. Glad to see they have all the stuff intel has had for past few years, but what else could they possibly add that Intel maybe doesn't?
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More PCIE lanes without having to buy a 600$+ CPU
 
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well at least the platform is modern, and currently supports everything Intel does, minus thundebolt 3.

Like Dan_D has said we've known this already. They could have released PCI-E specs as well, since well we still don't know anything about those. I'd personally like to see 32 lanes x16 bandwidth.

Fun factoid. AMD released the lid on the AM3+ motherboards before Bulldozer was released. Seems they are doing it again, releasing the motherboards before the cpu. The difference is this time I will wait for official benchmarks haha.
 
ebduncan said:
Fun factoid. AMD released the lid on the AM3+ motherboards before Bulldozer was released. Seems they are doing it again, releasing the motherboards before the cpu. The difference is this time I will wait for official benchmarks haha.
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The only difference this time around would be am4 being used by the earlier APUs for OEMs, so they have some excuse for being out
 
Riptide_NVN said:
I'm bored to death. I've had this 3570K for what seems like an eternity.

I've been considering going X99 with a 6800K. I feel like I've waited this long I may as well hold off 2-3 more months and see if AMD finally comes out with something that can legit compete. If it is close enough or (shockingly) better than the 6800K I may have to give AMD a try. The last CPU I had from them was a 3200+. So yes it has been a while... Too long.
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I know EXACTLY what you mean. I'm so bored with my rig that I've started delving into other hobbies more. Current games are finally reaching a level where in needing some more performance and a few more months to see what Zen brings is worth it to me. Always been an AMD guy since I was a broke ass gamer and they had unlocked quad cores for $100. I'd prefer to stick with them for sentimental reasons.
 
jmilcher said:
I was thinking the exact same thing.

So AMD will offer boards with features finally that caught up to Intel mb chipsets. I don't see how this revolutionary by any means.

Unless they with held more details.
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Well that's kind of the big deal AMD finally appears to be at parity with Intel. I see what you are saying, but it is a good thing for AMD to be "caught up".
 
Dan_D said:
All it really does is say that the upcoming chipsets have the features that Intel's had for the last two years. Congrats? I wish we new how many PCIe lanes we'd get, how many SATA ports, etc.
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If the board lets you go from 4 Cores to 8 Cores on a single platform then its a slight upgrade over Intels strategy of different chipset for differing CPU core amounts even if it only matches in feature parity.
 
I just hope that the boards are stable and the pcie, m2, usb 3.1 etc ports all work as expected. If it's stable and it works (same for Ryzen) AMD could make a bit of a comeback. But I'm pretty worried it's too much new all at once... I feel like it's a given that something won't work properly and hopefully it's fixable with bios updates and doesn't tank the performance post fix.
 
andrewaggb said:
I just hope that the boards are stable and the pcie, m2, usb 3.1 etc ports all work as expected. If it's stable and it works (same for Ryzen) AMD could make a bit of a comeback. But I'm pretty worried it's too much new all at once... I feel like it's a given that something won't work properly and hopefully it's fixable with bios updates and doesn't tank the performance post fix.
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They need to not only have feature parity, but performance parity. In the past, AMD's USB and SATA performance has sometimes been way behind Intel's chipsets.
 
Dan_D said:
They need to not only have feature parity, but performance parity. In the past, AMD's USB and SATA performance has sometimes been way behind Intel's chipsets.
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I am curious to find out which motherboard system has better performance and less heat issues with NVMe M.2's between AM4 370, 350 vs z270? Will AM4 have the same number of lanes for M.2 as a z270?
 
JoseJones said:
I am curious to find out which motherboard system has better performance and less heat issues with NVMe M.2's between AM4 370, 350 vs z270? Will AM4 have the same number of lanes for M.2 as a z270?
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As evidenced in this thread, they all have a varied amount of pcie lanes. What remains to be seen is the ammount of pcie lanes each cpu sku have.
 
JoseJones said:
I am curious to find out which motherboard system has better performance and less heat issues with NVMe M.2's between AM4 370, 350 vs z270? Will AM4 have the same number of lanes for M.2 as a z270?
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The heat issues with NVMe drives has nothing to do with the chipset or even the CPU. It has everything to do with slot placement relative to the GPU.
 
Dan_D said:
The heat issues with NVMe drives has nothing to do with the chipset or even the CPU. It has everything to do with slot placement relative to the GPU.
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In addition to the M2 to PCIe adaptors apparently there are cables for internal M2 to M2 and M2 to U2 (like the second product in this http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asrock-usb-3.1-type-c,29605.html) that would let things be moved around.

But yeah its a problem of shoehorning a mobile solution into a desktop usage that doesn't benefit much from the form factor. Motherboard designers could also put it above or to the side of the GPU as well.
 
U.2 is what I'd prefer used more frequently on the desktop. I agree with you in that M.2 is better suited to mobile use and there are plenty of issues trying to make use of it on desktop motherboards.
 
Dude, somebody has to shoehorn an X370 in a ITX with 2x PCI-E slots for dual(quad?) Vega for the Lan party box. Heh! Oh, if only Abit was still around.
 
Why no mention of DisplayPort and HDMI or which version? I expected the new AM4 to have Display Port 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. I hope they have support for the latest NVMe specs. Also, will the new AM4 be backward compatible or no?
 
JoseJones said:
Why no mention of DisplayPort and HDMI or which version? I expected the new AM4 to have Display Port 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. I hope they have support for the latest NVMe specs. Also, will the new AM4 be backward compatible or no?
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Because none of these have integrated graphics, and they will not be backward comparable
 
Gigabyte mentioned (based on articles from other sites) HDMI 2.0 on the boards that have it. Did not see mention of revision of DP that is on the ones that have it.
 
I'm very curious to see some tests for AM4 & Rysen vs Z270 & KabyLake to see which system makes the best use of the new NVMe SSD's.
 
I am just curious what others think if it's worth waiting for PCIe 4.0 or not to try to future proof a bit?

What's the latest on PCIe 4.0 - haven't even heard anything about it for quite a long time. When can we expect it to be released and on what motherboard generation ie Inte's z370 and AMD's x470 or after that?



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