AMD HD 4670 reviews

Thanks. I tried checking the site, but I didn't see it anywhere.

Just a quick question. Would this card be a good upgrade from a 6800 GT? (Brother's computer)? I'm considering getting this for my backup computer that has a x1950XT, but I'm not sure if there would be that much of a difference.
 
xBanzai89 said:
Thanks. I tried checking the site, but I didn't see it anywhere.

Just a quick question. Would this card be a good upgrade from a 6800 GT? (Brother's computer)? I'm considering getting this for my backup computer that has a x1950XT, but I'm not sure if there would be that much of a difference.
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yeah I could not find it either when I looked earlier.

yes the 4670 would be a HUGE upgrade over the 6800GT. if the rest of his system is decent then he will get about 3-4 times the performance of the 6800GT in modern games.

this will also be a good upgrade over the x1950xt too. the rest of your specs are important too though.
 
Well, right now he has a Pentium D 2.8GHz. Not the best processor, but I think he is better off waiting till either AM3 comes out or the prices on the current C2D. This vga should hold him over till then I'm hoping. His birthday is coming up this on the 16th, so this will be a good present. The max resolution on his screen is 1024x768 I think, its only a 17 inch. Look at this way, he'll have free AA :D.

My x1950xt system has a Athlon 4200 X2 @ 2.2Ghz w/ 2gb of ram. That is a S939 rig too.
 
Silus said:
The comparison is a bit off, because the HD 4670 used, is fitted with 512 MB of GDDR3, while the HD 3850 used only has 256 MB of GDDR3. Many games go beyond 256 MB of frame buffer, so the HD 3850 256 MB will obviously suffer from that.
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True - take a look at the Firingsquad review, which uses a 512mb 3850. It wins every test, even when AA is factored in (except HL2: Ep2, and that only by a smidge).
 
xBanzai89 said:
Well, right now he has a Pentium D 2.8GHz. Not the best processor, but I think he is better off waiting till either AM3 comes out or the prices on the current C2D. This vga should hold him over till then I'm hoping. His birthday is coming up this on the 16th, so this will be a good present. The max resolution on his screen is 1024x768 I think, its only a 17 inch. Look at this way, he'll have free AA :D.

My x1950xt system has a Athlon 4200 X2 @ 2.2Ghz w/ 2gb of ram. That is a S939 rig too.
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yeah he has a pretty bad cpu but at least its dual core and that helps in most new games. he will still get a big improvement over the 6800gt but his cpu will be holding him back at 1024x768 for sure. you are a little better off than him and the 4670 will make a nice little card for you. ;)
 
Now I'm playing the waiting game on the visiontek 4670. I may try to get into best buy to use the 10% off coupons to get two of them. If it doesn't show up there by Friday, I'll get one off newegg.
 
xBanzai89 said:
Now I'm playing the waiting game on the visiontek 4670. I may try to get into best buy to use the 10% off coupons to get two of them. If it doesn't show up there by Friday, I'll get one off newegg.
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yeah Im waiting for them at Best Buy too. I havent gotten any coupons lately so if you have a link to them that would be nice. ;)
 
Curious, does anyone know how this would compare to the G80 Geforce 8800 GTS 320 ?
 
Rauelius said:
Curious, does anyone know how this would compare to the G80 Geforce 8800 GTS 320 ?
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it would probably be close in some games but the 8800gts 320mb should easily beat it overall. remember the 4670 is slower than the 3870 which was really close to the 8800gts 320mb in performance.
 
cannondale06 said:
it would probably be close in some games but the 8800gts 320mb should easily beat it overall. remember the 4670 is slower than the 3870 which was really close to the 8800gts 320mb in performance.
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Ummm, no. 3850 >>>. 8800 gts 320 hands down. Since 4670 is about the same or sometimes faster then 3850, hd 4670 should be a lot faster.
 
DeadSkull said:
Ummm, no. 3850 >>>. 8800 gts 320 hands down. Since 4670 is about the same or sometimes faster then 3850, hd 4670 should be a lot faster.
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hands down? lol. perhaps you should do a little research first. the 8800gts 320mb will beat the 3850 is almost every game and setting. only in Crysis does the 3850 beat the 8800gts 320mb. thats because of the crappy memory management on the Nvidia card. http://techreport.com/articles.x/13603/8
 
cannondale06 said:
hands down? lol. perhaps you should do a little research first. the 8800gts 320mb will beat the 3850 is almost every game and setting. only in Crysis does the 3850 beat the 8800gts 320mb. thats because of the crappy memory management on the Nvidia card. http://techreport.com/articles.x/13603/8
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Yeah, how bout you actually read the review before copypasta it everywhere, they were using 256mb hd 3850. I don't think anyone even bothers to sell them anymore so 3850 512mb >> gts 320.
 
DeadSkull said:
Yeah, how bout you actually read the review before copypasta it everywhere, they were using 256mb hd 3850. I don't think anyone even bothers to sell them anymore so 3850 512mb >> gts 320.
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well how many of the 3850 cards came with 512mb? heres a clue...most didnt.:rolleyes:

next if you look at most of the benchmarks the 8800gts 320mb is right there with the 3870 and in most cases actually beats it. so now whats your excuse?

what I told the guy in the beginning was correct. I did my research before posting unlike you...
 
DeadSkull said:
Beats it? One game (UT3) does not equal most cases.
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the 8800gts 320mb wins more benchmarks against the 3870 then it loses.:confused:

I said the 8800gts was about equal to the 3870 and it is so please stop being ridiculous.
all you have done is screw this thread up after I gave someone advice that was 100% accurate. :rolleyes:
 
ok, troll much?

First off gb2 elementary school and learn how to count, mkay...
 
DeadSkull said:
ok, troll much?

First off gb2 elementary school and learn how to count, mkay...
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yes I was off by ONE benchmark number but you had just said that the 8800gts 320mb only beat the 3870 in one game so who was further from the truth?


lets see whos fucking trolling:

I tell the guy that a 8800gts 320mb is about equal to a 3870 an IT IS

you jump in the thread and say no its not and even say that the 3850 beats the 8800gts 320mb.

YOU WERE WRONG because the 3850 was only ahead in 2 or 3 benchmarks.

count all the benchmarks up and the 3870 does win by ONE so guess what that makes my original statement to the guy TRUE

the 8800gts 320mb IS about equal to the 3870

are you fucking done screwing up this thread now?
 
No, I'm off for a quick run to CVS to get some tampons. Looks like you ran out
 
DeadSkull said:
No, I'm off for a quick run to CVS to get some tampons. Looks like you ran out
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you know its okay to make mistakes. we all do it. theres NO reason to just sit there in denial when the numbers are right in front of you. your first "excuse" was that the 3850 was only 256mb which would not matter since the stronger 3870 was still about even with the 8800gts 320mb. ;)

all I was trying to do is help the guy and everything I told him was right. there was no need to keep going once I showed you the benchmarks that proved it. instead you try to nit pick things and find a way to save face instead of just saying you were mistaken. all that did was make me more defensive. so lets both just calm down and move on. :cool:
 
cannondale06 said:
you know its okay to make mistakes. we all do it. theres NO reason to just sit there in denial when the numbers are right in front of you. your first "excuse" was that the 3850 was only 256mb which would not matter since the stronger 3870 was still about even with the 8800gts 320mb. ;)

all I was trying to do is help the guy and everything I told him was right. there was no need to keep going once I showed you the benchmarks that proved it. instead you try to nit pick things and find a way to save face instead of just saying you were mistaken. all that did was make me more defensive. so lets both just calm down and move on. :cool:
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Argghhh fuck. You're right on this one, very sorry for the name calling. I always thought 3850 / 3870 placed between the 320 and 640mb gts 8800, guess not.
 
DeadSkull said:
Argghhh fuck. You're right on this one, very sorry for the name calling. I always thought 3850 / 3870 placed between the 320 and 640mb gts 8800, guess not.
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yeah I wasnt really sure at first either. every site can have wildly different results. sometimes just changing one setting or bumping up the resolution can make one card leap frog over the other. sometimes the 8800gts 320mb seems to crap itself while the 640mb model keeps on truckin. anyway the 4670 is a great little card and as soon as the first sale or price drop hits Ill be picking one up. ;)
 
Lost! said:
Yet if it was nVidia's 8600GT/GTS or even the newly 9600GT it's alright, eh?

Now I finally know why I disregard the results you guys have whenever they conflict with the majority of the other sites.
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8600GT/S and 9600GT were not low-end; all had MSRP's well over $100, putting them squarely in the mid-range category. Remember that the vast majority of video cards sold are in the $150-200 range, which is where the 4850, 9600GT, and 8600GTS have all landed. There is very little interest in a card that has an $80-and-below MSRP- what car enthusiast would bother reading a review of a Kia Rio?
 
mavalpha said:
8600GT/S and 9600GT were not low-end; all had MSRP's well over $100, putting them squarely in the mid-range category. Remember that the vast majority of video cards sold are in the $150-200 range, which is where the 4850, 9600GT, and 8600GTS have all landed. There is very little interest in a card that has an $80-and-below MSRP- what car enthusiast would bother reading a review of a Kia Rio?
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Are we going to judge cards/cars by performance, or pricing and agendas? ;)

If [H] had not reviewed the 9600GT- which was a card that reeked of redundancy all round compared to the 8800GT- I wouldn't have minded.
 
Lost! said:
Are we going to judge cards/cars by performance, or pricing and agendas? ;)

If [H] had not reviewed the 9600GT- which was a card that reeked of redundancy all round compared to the 8800GT- I wouldn't have minded.
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That's just it, though- the 8800GT had a launch MSRP of $250, IIRC, putting it just out of reach of the "mainstream" buyer. The 9600GT was, as you put it, redundant- but squeezed into that magic sub-$200 mark right off the bat, meaning that was the price Best Buy and Circuit City charged for it.
 
Lost! said:
Yet if it was nVidia's 8600GT/GTS or even the newly 9600GT it's alright, eh?
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Kyle's comment was probably based on the last mid-range eval done last November: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQwOSwsLGhlbnRodXNpYXN0

Why not ask him if that's what he meant instead of just accusing? AMD cutting down the number of models is a good thing, but I do think that has hurt them in a way since there are fewer models to review. Not just at [H]... all over the intarweb. Last generation, the interesting cards to enthusiasts were only the 3850, 3870 and X2 version.

I do think the HD 4670 is worthy of an evaluation. The performance, performance/watt and price/performance are excellent for a new product (i.e. not compared to end of life, heavily discounted older models which will disappear). Since you discount [H] evals anyways, why are you complaining? :p It's sort of an odd position to demand something you're not even interested in.
 
Regardless if HardOCP reviews it or not, there's definitely a market for this - small PC's. For machines like the HP Slimline its a godsend, the previous high-performing part that would fit within the thermal/power envelope of PC's like these (Acer's x1200 is another one) were the 8600 & 9600GT - this is a massive performance boost for HTPC's (low profile version dammit!).
 
I just think its neat that a tiny card like the 4670 can perform sorta-kinda close to behemoth cards like the G80 8800GTS and Radeon 3870. I think I heard that the 4670 actually is quicker then the 2900XT...Impressive for an $80 card.
 
I have an 8600GT in one of my boxes... think its worth upgrading to this card? Benchmarks seems pretty impressive. This PC doesn't have a six pin connector on the PSU and is only 300W, so anything else like the 9600GT is pretty much out of the question (don't want to spend more than a $100 on it). Seems it would be perfect for running Source games maxed out at 60FPS at a decent res (1680x1050), which is all I want it for really.
 
x3sphere said:
I have an 8600GT in one of my boxes... think its worth upgrading to this card? Benchmarks seems pretty impressive. This PC doesn't have a six pin connector on the PSU and is only 300W, so anything else like the 9600GT is pretty much out of the question (don't want to spend more than a $100 on it). Seems it would be perfect for running Source games maxed out at 60FPS at a decent res (1680x1050), which is all I want it for really.
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as long as the rest of your pc is decent then the 4670 will almost double your performance in many games especially with any AA.
 
x3sphere said:
Yeah, it has an AMD X2 5000+ and 4GB RAM. Sounds good, I think I'll pick this up then.
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me too but Im waiting a week or two until the price drops or some rebates show up. hopefully Best Buy will get these in soon as I prefer to get video cards locally when possible. ;)
 
cannondale06 said:
me too but Im waiting a week or two until the price drops or some rebates show up. hopefully Best Buy will get these in soon as I prefer to get video cards locally when possible. ;)
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True, I couldn't wait any longer though so I went ahead and ordered it off Newegg today. Should get here in three days or so. I'll let you know how it compares to my 8600GT.
 
I ordered a Sapphire 4670 last night with overnight shipping. I'm hoping it gets here for tomorrow. All the other 4670's where sold out at newegg. I had no idea when they would be back in so I just got it. I have no idea when best buy will have it either, I tried finding out (emailing BB, newegg, visiontek) didn't get anything.
 
Got my Sapphire 4670 today. Really happy with it so far. I've tried HL2: EP2, Team Fortress 2, and Call of Duty 4 all at 1680x1050 and have no trouble now running these games now at around 50-60FPS average. All in all, it basically doubled my frame rates over the 8600GT. Runs cooler too -- on idle it hovers around 49 c, under load around 62 c. The 8600GT I had idled at 60 c. Fan is a bit louder but that doesn't bother me.

Been awhile since I had an ATI card, but seems their drivers have improved a lot too.
 
Just got my HIS 4670. Haven't installed yet. I'm moving up from a X800. I'm sure it will be a nice upgrade for me.

How'd you guys go about uninstalling your old cards?

Thanks,
 
[H]unter;1033203276 said:
Just got my HIS 4670. Haven't installed yet. I'm moving up from a X800. I'm sure it will be a nice upgrade for me.

How'd you guys go about uninstalling your old cards?

Thanks,
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crisco and pliers... err wait videcard oh yeah crowbar and a dustbuster..
 
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