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Finnaly smp without the cluttered motherboard.
on a side note amd has the best promotional advertising going.{US the overclocking community}, we are their voice their word of mouth and they continue to show their appreciation to us by making various platforms enthusiate friendly, we ask and they produce. planetary said:AMD dual core sounds better than what I had wished for after Intel came out with HT. I always thought a CPU with the A64's power and the P4's HT capability would be awesome. Looks like I'll get my wish.
PhyberOptik said:
ThomasE66 said:
FlyinBrian said:
i think intel abandoned the p3 way to quickly. tualatin(.13u) had much more potential than they let it have, both of mine easily hit 1.8 ghz before my bus clock gets to high and my windows install corrupts beyond saving
lithium726 said:sounds awesome
just ordered me a 3200 winnie and a neo2, so ill wait for these to come down in price before i spring on it. they sould awesome tho
i think intel abandoned the p3 way to quickly. tualatin(.13u) had much more potential than they let it have, both of mine easily hit 1.8 ghz before my bus clock gets to high and my windows install corrupts beyond saving
err.. i know that... i was referring to the fact that intel ditched tualatin in favor of willamette in teh desktop segment, and IMO, they shouldnt have done that... a 2ghz tualatin (which those things were fully capable of, they ran very cool) wouldve killed the athlons of the time. instead, they went with the hot, slow, and inefficient willamette. P-M is proving that teh p6 still has a long life ahead of it, and i think netburst is gonna be going the way of the dinosuars within the next 2 years or so.ThomasE66 said:The PIII (Actually the P6 [Pentium Pro]) architecture lived on in the form of the Pentium M. It's similar to the relationship between birds and dinosaurs
less than prescottsKrakenGuy said:
purefun65 said:people seem to forget that AMD is the david vs the goliath in the proceesor mfg world.
they consistently improve with a 1/10 of the resourses that a giant like intell has.They will not release anything haphazzardly as to tarnish their growing reputation. these new proceesors will win many an acolade without a doubt.
we are still tiny in the grand scheme of things, if we were actualy that big, then intel would be paying more attention to us. the truth is that we are still just a bunch of voltmodding, bios flashing, overclocking enthusiasts, and we are a niche market, and the only reason we are bigger than we used to be is because the entire computer industry is bigger than it used to be, but we are still a tiny niche market. Intel is catering to the OEM market, cause taht is where they have the biggest footing. the Extreeme Editions are for people who dont know any better, and have money to waste IMO, not for enthusiasts, i mean, what do the majority of us do? we buy a winchester or lower end pressy/NW and overclock it as far as the silicon will go, and call it a day after spending 150-200 dollars, not spend 850-1k on a chip when the performance increase (and the overclocking potential increase) are so small. and if you think that the majority of poeple on this board and all other hardware boards dont know what the BIOS is or are overclocking with nTune, you're dead wrong. i never use software OC'ing tools, and alot of other people dont either... the BIOS is what im used too and thats the way its going to stay
lithium726 said:we are still tiny in the grand scheme of things, if we were actualy that big, then intel would be paying more attention to us. the truth is that we are still just a bunch of voltmodding, bios flashing, overclocking enthusiasts, and we are a niche market, and the only reason we are bigger than we used to be is because the entire computer industry is bigger than it used to be, but we are still a tiny niche market. Intel is catering to the OEM market, cause taht is where they have the biggest footing. the Extreeme Editions are for people who dont know any better, and have money to waste IMO, not for enthusiasts, i mean, what do the majority of us do? we buy a winchester or lower end pressy/NW and overclock it as far as the silicon will go, and call it a day after spending 150-200 dollars, not spend 850-1k on a chip when the performance increase (and the overclocking potential increase) are so small. and if you think that the majority of poeple on this board and all other hardware boards dont know what the BIOS is or are overclocking with nTune, you're dead wrong. i never use software OC'ing tools, and alot of other people dont either... the BIOS is what im used too and thats the way its going to stay
The bios is for hardcore people like us.lithium726 said:we are still tiny in the grand scheme of things, if we were actualy that big, then intel would be paying more attention to us. the truth is that we are still just a bunch of voltmodding, bios flashing, overclocking enthusiasts, and we are a niche market, and the only reason we are bigger than we used to be is because the entire computer industry is bigger than it used to be, but we are still a tiny niche market. Intel is catering to the OEM market, cause taht is where they have the biggest footing. the Extreeme Editions are for people who dont know any better, and have money to waste IMO, not for enthusiasts, i mean, what do the majority of us do? we buy a winchester or lower end pressy/NW and overclock it as far as the silicon will go, and call it a day after spending 150-200 dollars, not spend 850-1k on a chip when the performance increase (and the overclocking potential increase) are so small. and if you think that the majority of poeple on this board and all other hardware boards dont know what the BIOS is or are overclocking with nTune, you're dead wrong. i never use software OC'ing tools, and alot of other people dont either... the BIOS is what im used too and thats the way its going to stay
lower end will be moderate, if intel's preliminary prices have anything to say about it. if AMD debuted the dual core chips at FX-55 prices, everyone who wanted some SMP goodness would have to go with Intel, and AMD is not going to like that. i predict low end dual cores to be ~300
you and i have very different definitions of effcienthey! sounds like the northwood vs prescott thing goin on now!
northwood = effecient and cool
prescott = ineffecient and HOT
people do make the same mistake twice
lithium726 said:lower end will be moderate, if intel's preliminary prices have anything to say about it. if AMD debuted the dual core chips at FX-55 prices, everyone who wanted some SMP goodness would have to go with Intel, and AMD is not going to like that. i predict low end dual cores to be ~300
you and i have very different definitions of effcient
i do completly agree with you however, prescott is a failure IMO