Rogue_Apprentice
Limp Gawd
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Well they are marked "beta"...Seriously, what the hell, AMD?
Well they are marked "beta"...
That said, I'm about ready to give my HD 6970 the boot in my secondary rig, and side-grade to a GTX 750 Ti. Performance should be roughly the same, but power consumption, heat, and noise will all be a lot better (not to mention the better driver situation).
I have absolutely no idea what's going on with the power-off situation. I have to ask - are you sure there isn't something else weird going on with your system?Thanks for the info.
I finally got the drivers to load.
I have used DDU in the past, but this time I did this:
Disabled Crossfire, Overdrive and Afterburner.
Booted to safe mode.
Ran DDU.
Rebooted.
Ran the 14.9 Beta2 install.
SO NOW.....
I played Metro LL Redux for all of 5 minutes and the computer just flat out shut itself off.
I had to turn the PSU off at it's switch and restart it.
No BSOD, nothing. Just like someone flipped a switch.
I didn't believe it so I tried Crysis 3............same shit.
Jesus Christ.........
I tried 14.9 whql and got an instant freeze up when I tried to load any game.
Had to hard restart.
I finally gave up on these and wiped them clean and went back to 14.4
Too bad I like the new EyeFinity setup software.
Guess I have to wait for 14.10.
Did you try the steps I recommended on the previous page, and use DDU to uninstall the drivers?After going back to Cat14.4 on my HD7950 system, I updated the bios & drivers for my motherboard, and decided to give these another shot. I did the "Express Uninstall all AMD software" option, rebooted, then installed the Cat14.9b2 drivers again. Rebooted, then fired up Civ:Beyond Earth. I was able to play just fine for at least an hour, no problems. Turned the game off, did some web browsing, watched some streaming video, when BAM. The machine just went kaput again, screen went dark. It didn't power down, but I had no image, and the keyboard was unresponsive. I had to hit the reset button to get the system back. I rebooted, went back to the same page, started streaming video again. This time it didn't last even 20 minutes before it crashed again. This time the machine did a full-on reboot.
Eff these drivers, at least as far as my Intel Z77 w/ Radeon HD7950 system goes. Sad thing is, the Cat14.4 drivers can't run Civ:Beyond Earth under Mantle, when I try it says it's not supported. The Cat14.9b1's can, but they gave me similar problems when I tried them, and after reading in the 14.9b1 release notes about the problems they fixed from the 14.9 WHQL's, no WAY am I trying those. I may see if I can dig up an old 14.6 beta set from somewhere, see if those work under Civ:BE.
Seriously, what the hell, AMD?
Did you try the steps I recommended on the previous page, and use DDU to uninstall the drivers?
I actually use DDU because it seems to perform faster than the AMD included uninstall utility, even with a reboot (<3 SSDs and Windows 8). So yes, they probably do need to work on their uninstall tools.For my second attempt with 14.9.2, yes I did. Sadly, it did not bring a better result. The problems still ended up happening. Though I will say that if the full uninstall option presented in the driver itself does not work as intended, that in itself is something AMD needs to address. Having said that, doing "Express Uninstall All AMD Drivers", Reboot, Install new Catalyst, Reboot, Enjoy has been my standard procedure for quite some time and has proven quite successful. The only time I really feel the need to use a more thorough uninstall utility is when I'm switching between AMD/ATI and Nvidia.
I have absolutely no idea what's going on with the power-off situation. I have to ask - are you sure there isn't something else weird going on with your system?
For the record I've had a similar software issue with AMD's drivers before - I would get a BSOD upon boot after installing an older 14.x branch, but the next release fixed it - but I don't see how the drivers alone could cause a power-off situation. That's bizarre.
It sounds to me like it could potentially be a PSU problem but if it works on an older branch of drivers I don't see how the software alone could be causing that. I've had CFX 290Xs for a year and the performance hasn't increased too much with just software alone so I don't think the load on 14.9 would be markedly higher than 14.4.Yeah. I haven't got a clue. It's the same system that I've been running since I installed the 290Xs (when they were released) .....rock solid.
The only thing that's different is the 14.9 beta drivers.
Now, just for giggles, I loaded Half-Life 2 and the machine ran fine, of course one GPU can handle that game just fine.
When I loaded both GPUs.......BAM, system shut off, I mean OFF. Like turning a switch.
Now when I go back to the 14.4 drivers, everything is fine. Same settings, same everything.
The one thing that has me thinking is......maybe the 14.9 beta loads the GPUs more and they simply overwhelm the PSU and it shuts down......but I have a brand new Seasonic X 1050Watt PSU which should be more that enough for my system.
And why would it only happen with these driver sets? Also why do I have to disable Crossfire and Afterburner, plus run DDU just to install the beta 1,2 or whql 14.9 drivers, where I've never had to do that before??
It tells me there is just something in this version of the drivers that my system doesn't like......
but it's just not logical, and to tell you the truth I don't have the energy to tear the whole system down for a software issue.
About the only thing I am going to try if the weather this weekend doesn't allow me to go outside, is to reload the drivers and put the entire machine at stock clocks and see what happens.
zero issues for me.
Running Beyond Earth in Mantle. No crashes, or any other problems that I have detected.
Came from 14.7 wqhl drivers. Only reason to move to these drivers is if you have Beyond Earth.
It sounds to me like it could potentially be a PSU problem but if it works on an older branch of drivers I don't see how the software alone could be causing that. I've had CFX 290Xs for a year and the performance hasn't increased too much with just software alone so I don't think the load on 14.9 would be markedly higher than 14.4.
Honestly if I was you I'd probably stay with 14.4 rather than tear down my watercooling loop unless you have a lot of spare time, haha. Did you try the 14.7 WHQLs? Do they have the same issues?
Hmm. Are you'll using factory overclocked cards? Maybe the driver is using more of the GPU and stressing the card too much in it's overclocked state? I remember when I had a HD7950 and a new driver set came out that increased performance it would shut my PC down when the card overheated. My old overclock no longer worked and I had to find out my new limits.
Just throwing some ideas out there. I hope that everyone reports exactly what problems they are having to AMD.
Sorry, it was 14.8 WHQL.I looked on the AMD website under past/legacy drivers and the most recent is 14.4?
Was there a 14.7 or 14.8??
If so where do I find them?
this is excactly why I won't buy ATI/AMD Video cards for my main PC.
I have two AMD APUs in other systems, and AMD engineers really need to go back school and learn how to write drivers/installers properly.
If you can, skip AMD and get Nvidia, got 3 systems at the house with nvidia and never have install problems.
Out of curiosity, I just installed these (14.9.2) on my girlfriend's PC - i7 920, 12GB RAM, X58 EVGA motherboard and an XFX 7870 - and they installed fine, no problems. Installed them on top of the old 13.11 set that was on there from last year, didn't even uninstall those first. No issues.
LOL sorry. I wish I had better advice to offer you.Why don't you just rub it in some more.......get off my lawn......
LOL sorry. I wish I had better advice to offer you.
Might be that something is just a bit more stressed under the 14.9.2 build than under the 14.4s. And that stress sends it over the wattage limit of the UPC? That's a first for sure, but I am glad you figured it out.Well then..............
I finally got this to work, I think it was/is sheer luck, but what the hell.
1 part crappy drivers and 1 part bad UPC.
I was looking to see what the system drew as far as wattage, thinking maybe I had a PSU issue; so I plugged my kill-a-watt in on another circuit. The computer ran flawlessly under full stress.
I checked the UPC to find it was flaky.......hmmmmmm. How that relates to a driver install, who knows. The computer was only acting up at stress.
Next I repeated the 9.2 beta download. Ran DDU. The drivers loaded flawlessly this time.
No artifacts, no problems.
Runs everything I throw at it just fine now.
I have to say.....that DDU thing is pretty slick, works better and much faster than DriverCleaner. I sent the guy some cash.
Might be that something is just a bit more stressed under the 14.9.2 build than under the 14.4s. And that stress sends it over the wattage limit of the UPC? That's a first for sure, but I am glad you figured it out.
Sweet! Glad to see that you figured out what was wrong with it. May I ask what your system pulls at the wall?
Is your powersupply active PFC?
some older UPS have issues deling with it.
Thanks for the info.
I finally got the drivers to load.
I have used DDU in the past, but this time I did this:
Disabled Crossfire, Overdrive and Afterburner.
Booted to safe mode.
Ran DDU.
Rebooted.
Ran the 14.9 Beta2 install.
SO NOW.....
I played Metro LL Redux for all of 5 minutes and the computer just flat out shut itself off.
I had to turn the PSU off at it's switch and restart it.
No BSOD, nothing. Just like someone flipped a switch.
I didn't believe it so I tried Crysis 3............same shit.
Jesus Christ.........
I tried 14.9 whql and got an instant freeze up when I tried to load any game.
Had to hard restart.
I finally gave up on these and wiped them clean and went back to 14.4
Too bad I like the new EyeFinity setup software.
Guess I have to wait for 14.10.
Could your power supply not have enough amperage on whatever rail the video card uses?
Yes. Sorry.You have a problem with your Universal Product Code?
lol
I assume you mean UPS.
Like i said Active PFC screws with some UPS, it confuses them.
I'm still running 14.4 . I tried 14.9 and it crashed and had a bunch of issues. Has anyone updated going from 14.4 to 14.9.2 beta?