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wetnose

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Hi,

I just got all my components in place so I assembled them all on the Friday.

When I switched on the power, the MSI board (K8N Neo 4) told me (it has this groovy USB card that also has 4 colored lights that tell you what's going on) that the processor was faulty.

I'm hoping it's not, but I don't know what to look for. Could I be making a wiring mistake that the processor is not starting up?

The processor seated perfectly and I plugged in the CPU cooler with no problems. There is a little plastic arm on the cooler that is supposed to go all the way but it ends up a few mm short. The CPU cooler fan is plugged into the 3 pin port on the motherboard.

I've got the 24 pin power hooked up so there's no need for the 4 pin power located just by the CPU, right? Because when I separated the 2 (20 pin and 4 pin), the computer woudldn't even power up.

Any help appreciated. Otherwise, I'd have to RMA the sucker...
 
wetnose said:
The processor seated perfectly and I plugged in the CPU cooler with no problems. There is a little plastic arm on the cooler that is supposed to go all the way but it ends up a few mm short. The CPU cooler fan is plugged into the 3 pin port on the motherboard.

I've got the 24 pin power hooked up so there's no need for the 4 pin power located just by the CPU, right? Because when I separated the 2 (20 pin and 4 pin), the computer woudldn't even power up.
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what heatsink is it?

and you REALLY should have that 12v plug (the 4 pin one by the cpu) plugged in, as it's what supplies a good amount of the cpu's power, if not all.
 
The extra 12 volt 4 pin should be different then the extra 4 pins on the 24 atx connector. I beleive the pins are different so they cant be connected to each other. I woudl run with the 24 pin and the 4 pin 12v
 
Wait, you should have:

1 24 pin connector plugged into 1 24 pin mobo connector
1 4 pin connector plugged into 1 4 pin mobo slot.

If you don't have it this way, then I'd say that's why it won't boot.
 
lmao yea you need 24pins AND the 4 pin thing plugged in.
 
xrdotimcr said:
or 20 pin's in the 24 slot and the 4 pin in the 4 slot


that works too
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Did you just suggest using a 20 pin PSU on a 24 pin mobo without an adapter? Maybe it'll work, but I really would suggest not doing this.
 
mikelz85 said:
Did you just suggest using a 20 pin PSU on a 24 pin mobo without an adapter? Maybe it'll work, but I really would suggest not doing this.
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qft. Even adapters sometimes don't work well.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

I'm using the stock AMD heatsink.

I'm going to go back and try all your suggestions. Thanks a lot!!!!

I was thinking that not plugging the 4 pin might be the cause, but when I plugged the 4 pin into the 4 pin socket and the 20 pin into the 24 pin, it wouldn't power up.

Should I slide the 20 pin and 4 pin together, then plug that into the 24 pin power, and find another 4 pin and plug that into the 4 pin socket?
 
ooops, shoulda read the replies....yes, so I will plug the 24 pin and the 4 pin in. Will give that a try and report back. Man, I'm sure new at this.

Thanks once again.
 
Russ said:
qft. Even adapters sometimes don't work well.
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The adapters work alright for most things :). I've never had a problem with them in 2 different times I tried it (Neo4 Plat SLI, VNF4/Ultra).
 
No offense,... but why wouldn't you plug in all the connectors that you have? Building a computer is pretty freaking easy. For the most part,... you plug stuff in where it fits, and you'll be alright (except the motherboard->case connections).

Or... when in doubt, there is always that old standby... the manual that came with the motherboard. ;) I know... it almost hurts to resort to that but damn are they useful. :D ;)
 
wetnose said:
Should I slide the 20 pin and 4 pin together, then plug that into the 24 pin power, and find another 4 pin and plug that into the 4 pin socket?
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does that mean you used the extra 4 pin connector that attaches to the main atx plug for the 4pin 12v plug over by the cpu..?



:(
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
does that mean you used the extra 4 pin connector that attaches to the main atx plug for the 4pin 12v plug over by the cpu..?



:(
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If I read that right, that would, could be a bad thing....... :(
 
It works now!!!

Plugged in the 24 pin connector & the 4 pin into the motherboard and she booted up with no problems at all!!!

Thanks to all!!!!
 
wetnose said:
It works now!!!

Plugged in the 24 pin connector & the 4 pin into the motherboard and she booted up with no problems at all!!!

Thanks to all!!!!
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Building a computer is really as simple as matching shapes. They could teach toddlers how to do it on sesame street.
 
kirbyrj said:
The adapters work alright for most things :). I've never had a problem with them in 2 different times I tried it (Neo4 Plat SLI, VNF4/Ultra).
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DFI has problems with them sometimes.
 
Glad it works. Ive had a couple problems with using 20 pin PS's in some of the nf4 boards, I now always make sure Im running a real 24pin atx PS with them. I havnt had great sucess with using adaptors, however I have used a 24pin to 20 pin adaptor that was included with my Enermax in my other rigs for a long time, never had any problems. But these were designed from them to switch my ps to the different configs.
 
wetnose said:
It works now!!!
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*wipes sweat off brow*

for future reference, you're pretty lucky plugging that 20->24pin atx plug into the 12v plug over by the cpu didn't kill anything.
 
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