Amazon Could Start Dropping Off Packages Inside Your Home

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  1. HardOCP News

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    By a show of hands, how many of you would go for something like this? What if the delivery guy damages your vehicle? Accidentally doesn't shut the door all the way? Let's one of you animal escape when he opens the door? Hmmm, it just seems to me that a lot could go wrong when you have access to someone's home.

    Here's how the process would work, according to August: When you check out a purchase from Amazon store, you can opt for an in-home delivery -- allowing the courier one-time access to your home via an August-locked door or Garageio-controlled garage. During delivery, the courier would use the access key via the appropriate app and leave your package safely inside.
     
  2. Zepher

    Zepher [H]ipster Replacement

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    I'd build a box with that August lock on it and let them leave the packages in that.
     
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  3. umeng2002

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    FBI NSLs Amazon.

    FBI agent "delivers" package and, without a warrant, searches your house for god knows how long.

    You get arrested for something.

    In court they claim you waived your right to privacy by ordering something from Amazon.
     
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  4. Nenu

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    Stuff disappears, insurance nulls policy.
     
  5. DrLobotomy

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    I suggest sniffing moar glue and going back to the drawing board.

    My house has 2 keys. 1 for me and 1 for my wife. No other keys will be made til lock changing time.

    I wouldn't let Amazon have access to my key even if I was an employee.
     
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  6. Dead Parrot

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    What could go wrong with this?

    Husband orders wife a surprise present. Doesn't tell wife because well surprise. Wife makes stop at house to freshen up before next real estate showing(She's a Realtor). She hears doorbell ring and on way to answer door, hears door open. Shoots driver as he enters house to leave package because there have been 4 recent home invasions in the neighborhood.
     
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  7. viscountalpha

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    Yeah, this is going to get a serious "hell no" from me.
     
  8. waderunner

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    I'm already less than enthused about the quality of the delivery folks employed by the Amazon-branded delivery services. Feels a bit "down market" from UPS and Fedex service... feels more like dealing with Ontrac. Not sure I want them in my car/house.

    I think I'd rather have a bit slower, but more reliable, delivery service. Using traditional delivery dropoff methods.
     
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  10. Darunion

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    right so they can sit the box on my pellet stove instead of in some random location in the yard/driveway
     
  11. HeavensCloud

    HeavensCloud Oswego, not shitty as Buffalo

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    That's a really good point. I can completely imagine a delivery person getting shot by someone who didn't know there was a delivery coming and didn't hear a doorbell or knock.
     
  12. rsaotome

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    NO!

    Oh wait, let me think...

    It's still NOOOO!
     
  13. nutzo

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    So the guy who paid the driver $50 to ride along not only has access to the package that's being delivered, but to everything in your house?

    No way. Besides, the wife & kid are usually home during the day to receive any important packages.
     
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    I like this idea, just a secure box that packages can go in and be weatherproof. Or put the lock on a shed or something.
     
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    Given that you are the one that selects that a person comes into your home and gives them access I wouldn't really think that would be that common. The type of people that do something like this are going to be the same type of people that already give other handymen keys to their place. If you are the type of person that shoots anyone that comes into your house, I am guessing you aren't the type of person to give random people keys to come right in. You also probably aren't the type of person that normally has somebody at home as if there normally is then you have no reason to have somebody come into the house.
     
  17. HeavensCloud

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    First of all Mr. White Knight I don't even own a gun, I based my thoughts off recent events in the U.S. over the course of the last decade. The scenario that popped into my head was multi generation or even multi family households, no one is going to give a warning or make an announcement when an Amazon package is about to be delivered. They see their front door being opened unexpectedly and freak out. I agree this won't be a problem for level headed people such as myself, I was referring to the ever devolving camp of psychopaths we have in this country.
     
  18. Exavior

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    There are entire services designed around letting people into your house, pets sitters, maids, security. There are also products such as door locks that have one time use keys, or electronic keys so that I you can let a plumber or any other type of contractor into your home. There are not people being killed every day because of that. Now if you are fucked up in the head and wanting to just kill people because you think its fun, well.. you don't need this for that you are going to kill the person when they enter your yard anyway. Unless you are fucked up in the head again if you live in a house with many other people and somebody is around at all times, probably not going to be ordering stuff to be left inside your living room. Just like you aren't paying a babysitter if you don't have kids.
     
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    Thank you. I was simply referring to people like this. Stop reading further into it than what it is.

    Ever work home care and get greeted at the door with a locked and loaded shotgun pointed at you by the demented man you had been taking care of twice a week for the last 5 months? Imagine this guy has a granddaughter that stays on the weekends and sets up this Amazon account. It's not that hard to believe.
     
  20. spacecowboy863

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    nice try amazon.....but you can con those prime members
     
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  22. CanonicalAbstract

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    Shit, they can't even ship the stuff I ordered over a week ago anyways...
     
  23. Merc1138

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    That actually looks pretty good. Unfortunately I doubt I could ever get delivery people to use the damned thing. Half the time they don't bother to knock even when it's obvious that people are home(caught one with the "sorry we missed you" slip already filled out as they were walking up the driveway), the occasional idiot just chucks packages into the middle of the lawn from the truck, it's pretty ridiculous.

    And there isn't a chance in hell I'd trust a random guy to enter my home to drop off a package when I'm not there.
     
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  24. maclem8223

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    Nope, nope, nope. Never, ever, this is just retarded.
     
  25. Jim Kim

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    Sounds great as long as they walk my dog, take out the garbage and remove the packing materials.
     
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    I was expecting them to drop a package down the chimney with a drone.

    OMG Robots are replacing Santa Claus!
     
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    Because searching some random guy's home for some evidence that may not exist of a crime you may not have committed makes them look so much more productive than going after known crimes where they already have evidence and often already know who they are looking for.
     
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    And yes, no way in hell. I am just fine having them leave it on my door step and hoping they don't break it in the process.
     
  29. Ur_Mom

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    So, no Fed Ex? :D
     
  30. Exavior

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    but you are trying your hardest to find the off case and say that is everyone. I have a customer that tells us the exact date and time he wants us to fix his issues. Had a tech show up a day early since they were ahead on trouble. Guy greeted the tech with a gun to his head, told him to get back on his van and to return at correct date and time. By that one example nobody should ever go to a house as you might get shot. The fact that you can find a single case to back up the case doesn't mean that this will result in people getting shot all the time. Anyone that would get shot by your logic would be shoot for knocking on the door anyway. So the going inside is meaningly.
     
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  31. Tweak42

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    I can see this working for the small number of people that use smart home technology. Personally I'd prefer Amazon locker service if I lived didn't neighborhood that was safe enough to drop packages on the doorstep.

    What will Amazon think of next? Drone delivery dropping down a fireplace chimney?
     
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    I hate having to answer my door. It's almost always someone I do not want to speak with there about something I do not want to discuss. As such, answering the door with a gun in my hand , albeit out of sight, sometimes seems foolish. Which I am sure reinforces the fact that I don't really want to answer the door.

    But I was raised that way. I was raised to answer the door when someone knocks. I am torn between what I feel is expected of me, and what I know I don't want to do. Might have something to do with why I bring the gun.

    The little girls with the Girl Scout Cookies are the worst.
     
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    Why all the violent scenarios? Has no one thought that it might be just terrible when you and the wife are having 'adult play time' and the delivery just walks in? Bad enough when I hear them drop a box at the door amidst the fun. Also yea, after 6months you will be able to buy a box off ebay that will open any amazon lock
     
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    I don't think so, unless i had a trusted person at my place at time of delivery.

    Unattended strangers inside my home is just one big no.
     
  35. Wiffle

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    Its because it is Ontrac. well Amazon contracts to ontrac, which then contracts to drivers fresh off the boat that completed a truck driving school specifically made for people from India.
     
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    I didn't know that, no wonder. Do they contract with someone different on the East coast? At least, I thought Ontrac was still only a West coast outfit.
     
  37. Retronym

    Retronym Something big is coming.

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    Gun owner. Hell no

    Also pretty sure my delivery people can't even legally vote.
     
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    Also a gun owner (carrier/defender/nutjob, whatever I'm called these days by different people), but one who wonders what ability to vote has to do with ability to deliver packages.

    The idea is poorly thought out and probably won't go anywhere, but I could see the use for a system that enables "secure home delivery" by enabling packages to be enclosed in something that amazon provides while you are a subscriber. The difficulty is that we have gotten a number of packages bigger than even the largest size I'd consider "sane" for encompassing (e.g. planters, rack-mount UPS, 6' long flex drill bit for running wires in the wall, etc). Basically, things that are too large for an amazon locker wouldn't be what I'd consider good for home delivery, and I certainly wouldn't want people coming in to do that. Perhaps mudrooms will make a comeback, though ;)
     
  39. jtm55

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    Not only no, but Hell No!
     
  40. NIVO

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    well if wifey and hubby like to play dressup for "date night" i can see delivery man gettin some freebies. now this id sign up for if i get to be the delivery guy :)