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Absolutely. Full disclosure, on some topics I absolutely lean towards being a conservative. However, conservative media (what little there is by comparison) is often just as bad. However, it's not as mainstream and not as widespread from where I'm sitting. You have Fox and Tucker Carlson, that's about all that I'm aware of that's remotely credible or close to mainstream. Past that you have nut jobs like Alex Jones who are as bad as anything on the left, possibly even worse. I also haven't forgotten the 1980's where the right was pretty much in total control of everything the way the left is now. I remember the conservatives screaming about shows like the A-Team being too violent and British people whining that Doctor Who kissed a female companion. The puritanical beliefs and preaching about Christian family values was always annoying. The right is also the same side who has politicians screaming about family values and the sanctity of family and good Christian living while sucking off strangers in a public bathroom glory hole.Out of curiosity do you hate the conservative media for the exact same argument?
This is demonstrably and categorically false.This is incorrect on virtually every level. Star Trek: Discovery is a woke dumpster fire. The difference between classic Star Trek up through Voyager and Enterprise and something like STD is striking. When TNG or DS9 presented a progressive or liberal idea, it was done with some subtlety in most cases. Even when it wasn't, the opposite viewpoint was presented as well. While the characters in the show would make their own decisions based on things in the show and based on that character's viewpoint, the viewer wasn't lectured or brow beaten by either side. We were left to decide what was wrong or right for ourselves. The Orville is oddly better at this than even Star Trek TNG or Deep Space Nine were.
This is demonstrably and categorically false.
I suspect some parts will be exactly the same, but you just know it's drooling at the thought of releasing major MGM movies on Prime Video either simultaneously with theatres or exclusively after the initial theatrical run."Amazon intends to allow MGM to operate as usual"
LOL, yes, right.
So I am looking over the long ass list of MGM releases over the past 100 years or so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer_films
And that gets them a lot more IP than I thought was there, but I think the assets are more valuable to Amazon than the IP for much of it. Especially if they want to get into content creation more than just serving it out.
How long till either Amazon or Disney buy Paramount at this rate?
Not quite, Philippe Dauman was the last holdout in not selling, he's been ousted and is putting his 80% stake in Viacom, and 49% stake of Paramount up on the bidding block. Viacom has been looking to unload Paramount since 2016.Paramount is owned by Viacom, so they're pretty safe for now.
Its possible that now the apprentice will never end up on any streaming platform. Probably did everyone a favor. As for digging up dirt... if this had happened while trump had any power I would have agreed it may have been the only reason.So fun bit of conspiracy theory stuff.
Trump loves ripping on Bezos
Bezos now owns MGM
MGM owns the rights the "The Apprentice"
Bezos now owns all The Apprentice outtakes that supposedly have Trump doing and saying a lot of bad things.
Bezos bought MGM to spite Trump
That movie was filmed like 3 year ago. Gonna have iphone 8's in in it.
My friends at the local Range Rover dealership swore that movie was gonna sell RR defenders. I’m not sure what Land Rover paid for the placement but I bet it’s a fair amount. Now they can’t even get adaptive cruise control parts.That movie was filmed like 3 year ago. Gonna have iphone 8's in in it.
Not quite, Philippe Dauman was the last holdout in not selling, he's been ousted and is putting his 80% stake in Viacom, and 49% stake of Paramount up on the bidding block. Viacom has been looking to unload Paramount since 2016.
What is also in the works is WarnerDiscovery is also fishing around and Disney is supposedly circling which would get them the DC and Harry Potter IP's
Yeah, I’m super dubious it would happen but given what Disney has done with Marvel and compare it to what WB has done with DC… and the geek in me wants to see what Disney can do to the DC. Because I don’t see it being worse….While Disney could easily throw enough money to get that deal passed federal regulators, I'd like to assume there's a zero percent chance of it getting approved in the EU....But, they were allowed to get Fox and ATT was allowed to get WB so.......
I am also re-watching as well, just started season 7.Most Sci-Fi is. I'm rewatching SG1 now on season 5, and it has a lot of that. But so does everything.
Pretty sure it was supposed to come out pre-covid, and they delayed it.... OOOPSMy friends at the local Range Rover dealership swore that movie was gonna sell RR defenders. I’m not sure what Land Rover paid for the placement but I bet it’s a fair amount. Now they can’t even get adaptive cruise control parts.
It’s funny.
This is demonstrably and categorically false.
The original Star Trek had an episode with characters that were literally half-black and half-white, while another had Uhuru and Kirk kiss despite the objections of network executives. TNG tackled gender identity (albeit softly) in "The Outcast;" DS9 made people more comfortable with LGBT romance, and directly addressed anti-Black racism in "Far Beyond the Stars." Voyager addressed mixed-race identity (Torres), among other issues. In these cases, the social issues brought up were explicit; there was no "both sides" rhetoric. And that's not counting the inherently progressive nature of the entire franchise, which strives for pacifism as well as inter-cultural acceptance and understanding.
And while I won't go in-depth on the other missteps... you do know Captain Marvel from the movie is based on the 2012 comic, right? And that Superman was born near-flawless?
Now, you don't have to like the execution of that approach. I'd say Discovery is occasionally heavy-handed even by franchise standards, and a good character should be flawed enough that they feel relatable and generate sympathy. But to pretend that your favourite series delicately broached subjects and pretended there were usually valid points on both sides? Nah, that's the revisionism we often apply to past shows to preserve the impression we have of them from our memories, not what they were really like.
At any rate, that's as far as I'll go on this subject... we're supposed to be talking about Amazon buying MGM!
Fair point. It made sense to recognize other cultures/ethnicities when they were being underrepresented. However, the difference between that and "wokeness" is that then, those characters were just part of the norm. They were treated as equals.I'm always confused by people complaining about liberal ideas in sci-fi. It's not exactly a new phenomenon. Have people forgotten the black woman, Japanese man, and Russian on the bridge of the original Star Trek? It may not seem that unusual now, but in the context of the times it was pretty revolutionary. Have they forgotten literally everything about The Next Generation? Generally sci-fi and fantasy authors are pretty open minded and liberal. Do people expect shows about meeting and interacting with alien cultures to be anything else? I guess someone could make a colonialist/imperialist sci-fi show, but I don't think it would make for very pleasant viewing.
Things are once again coming full circle. Everyone was hating on cable and saying that they only wanted to pay for "what they want to watch." Then we got 8-million streaming services that divided up all the worthwhile content so you had to subscribe to a pile of them. Now they're all consolidating and we're inching back toward the cable model again.
Unfortunately, I'm afraid of what that might look like if made today. If they keep Brad Wright onboard it has a chance as Travelers was pretty awesome.more stargate please ( maybe I'll regret it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
You'd get this, but the robot would be transorganic.Unfortunately, I'm afraid of what that might look like if made today.
Things are once again coming full circle. Everyone was hating on cable and saying that they only wanted to pay for "what they want to watch." Then we got 8-million streaming services that divided up all the worthwhile content so you had to subscribe to a pile of them. Now they're all consolidating and we're inching back toward the cable model again.
It's pretty much inevitable in almost any industry. The fact is, a few players who are hugely successful will buy up other services and consolidate into mega-giants. At the end of all this there will probably only be two or three services to choose from. More than likely, people will end up subscribing to one or more of those anyway. Overtime, successful businesses will crush the bulk of their competitors. We've seen it happen time and time again.And that was almost certain to happen, cable tv was an over 200 billions industry, going from that to a single low fee streaming platform would have been a destruction of revenues even bigger than the music industry had potentially, ott streaming went from showing only to mostly already monetized content to the main window over time.
Hold onto that sentiment, let's see how their talks for WB and Paramount go...Probably already said, but I am glad it wasn't Disney. It was slowly becoming a monopoly on film/tv entertainment.
Indeed. Shows are much more in-your-face preachy now. If someone denies that, they are either being disingenuous or they're just blind-stupid.I think people confuse Politics with Preachy Propaganda. There are some people so far gone they can't tell the difference with How Star Trek handled say Vietnam back then and how it's handled in current year. There's a difference in broaching a topic, looking at it in abstract sometimes to the point of it not being recognizable, debating both sides and finding a common ground solution (SG-1, old Trek for example) and a thinly vailed Orange Man Bad pontification.
So when people say they don't want politics they mean they don't want moralizing on current year politics.
Unfortunately, I'm afraid of what that might look like if made today. If they keep Brad Wright onboard it has a chance as Travelers was pretty awesome.
AgreedBe prepared for an extra helping of wokeness in all movies now.
All one of themOut of curiosity do you hate the conservative media for the exact same argument?
Travelers was pretty awesome.
Agreed. It’s exactly what they mean, equally, on both sides. Political affiliation has become dogma to a good portion of political non-thinkers of either stripe, and the only differentiating factor to any statement in a dogmatic politico’s mind is whether it glorifies followers of the red god or the blue god (or more simply, My God or the heretics’ Great Satan of the Other Color) There is no actual logical thought or desire for truth. Just do not offend their god god dammit!When people say they don't want politics, what they very often mean is they don't want things that clash with their view of what they like. It's an age old argument, like when people bash the liberal media... but then happily watch Tucker Carlson on Fox. Now I'm not saying everyone is like that, but in general it's what most mean.
I heard that but also heard it got cancelled without being allowed to wrap up, so why bother I thought.
Just like they tell us that our businesses and jobs are non essential. tell them they are non essential by not watching their non essential woke movies and shows.Be prepared for an extra helping of wokeness in all movies now.
If that's all you saw out of that, you've missed the point of the whole argument. BTW the conservative media exists because of the one-sided-ness of the other side. CNN came first, then Fox; beat fox out the door by about 16 years. Founded by Ted Turner, of all people. I used to watch CNN a fair bit prior to 2016, then they went all out, couldn't take anymore.Out of curiosity do you hate the conservative media for the exact same argument?
Man I completely forgot about SGU, I remember there were a number of episodes I liked, but equally so it seemed a lot of very slow episodes I didn't like. But ultimately that's what shows become, effort into producing them... unless they don't get the ratings and then they go away regardless of how good they actually were, meanwhile "reality" shows that involve "talent" in some way just keep popping up that use the same formula. Which ultimately pushed me to the breaking point of realizing I am not the target demographic for the majority of what it is pushed hard for on TV, and cut the proverbial cable.I'd like an SGU wrap up movie - even if you don't bring back all of the cast under the guisehypersleep screwed up - a bunch died and the ones left aged in hypersleep - even better for drama if Eli did it trying to fix shit