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Let's have a discussion about Alpha Protocol.

Those of you who don't actually own the game can post about how dated the graphics are and how bad the game is - even though you don't own it.

Thanks!
 
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I've been waiting to hear more about this game. I really like the premise, but I'm going to wait till I hear multiple user reviews before I think about picking it up. I do like that it's action heavy. Not into the stealth games.
 
Game looks like it could be pretty good. Hopefully all the extra time Obsidian has had on the game has been put to good use.

One thing that should be mentioned though. The game does use activation based DRM. Though its not TAGES or SecuROM. Its something called SoftAnchor provided by a company named Uniloc. And SoftAnchor does seem interesting in how its designed and how it recognizes systems.
 
I've got $15 coming to me from D2D for having spent more than $75 at their site last month - so Alpha Protocol: The Espionage RPG, should only cost me $35.

This will be a day one for me regardless of any review I might read beforehand. I just can't see how Obsidian can go wrong here. More likely it will be a question of the game being good, or being great. I'm hoping for greatness.
 
Unfortunately I think this game is going to be overshadowed by Mass Effect 1/2 in terms of what they're trying to do -- judging from what i've seen about the game, they're trying to make a ME in more of a Jason Bourne type setting. That's not to say the game might not be good in its own right, I just think it's a space with a huge heavyweight already occupying it.
 
quadnad said:
Unfortunately I think this game is going to be overshadowed by Mass Effect 1/2 in terms of what they're trying to do -- judging from what i've seen about the game, they're trying to make a ME in more of a Jason Bourne type setting. That's not to say the game might not be good in its own right, I just think it's a space with a huge heavyweight already occupying it.
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Completely disagree.

From everything I've read about this game Obsidian is creating a real RPG here - just one being set in modern day times. I think that people are going to have a hard time wrapping their brains around that one. We're so used to seeing fantasy RPGs that it's difficult for us to consider the possibility of a deep RPG set in contemporary times. The Mass Effect games are barely RPGs.

I think maybe you're looking at the level-up screen and you're seeing a similarity to Mass Effect - but that's just a level-up screen, and isn't representative of the mechanics. As far as the RPG element is concerned, this game is going to be way deeper than what we saw in Mass Effect.

If I had to choose a game to compare Alpha Protocol to, in terms of gameplay, I would look more towards the original Deus Ex.
 
The genre (spy RPG) doesn't interest me too much, but I have a great respect for the stuff Obsidian puts out. If I hear great things from players I'll give it a whirl. It'll probably surpass my expectations for a spy RPG game.
 
WabeWalker said:
I think maybe you're looking at the level-up screen and you're seeing a similarity to Mass Effect - but that's just a level-up screen, and isn't representative of the mechanics. As far as the RPG element is concerned, this game is going to be way deeper than what we saw in Mass Effect.

If I had to choose a game to compare Alpha Protocol to, in terms of gameplay, I would look more towards the original Deus Ex.
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I'm speaking to the points the developer was trying to make about the story, characters, etc. I just can't see anything comparing to ME in that camp. Judging by the videos it look like there is a fairly heavy emphasis on action, and I think ME2 will be difficult to beat there. I may be pleasantly surprised, I agree, but who knows.

If it's similar to Deus Ex, I'll be a very happy camper. I'm keeping an eye on it, but I don't have high hopes.
 
I'll probably be buying this. It's got to be at least as good as ME2, which I paid full price for, and it certainly shouldn't be a worse game, based on the previews.
 
WabeWalker said:
I don't understand the Mass Effect 2 comparison at all?
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3rd person shooter? Check

With RPG elements? Check

Dialog wheel? Check

Emphasis on choices with instant and unforeseen consequences? Check

The above leading to Multiple Endings? Check

Relationship system? Check

I could go on but I'm sure you get my point.

Still preordering this game. I too respect Obsidian and hope the delay gave them the time they needed.
 
Riftsaw said:
3rd person shooter? Check

With RPG elements? Check

Dialog wheel? Check

Emphasis on choices with instant and unforeseen consequences? Check

The above leading to Multiple Endings? Check

Relationship system? Check

I could go on but I'm sure you get my point.

Still preordering this game. I too respect Obsidian and hope the delay gave them the time they needed.
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Outside of the shooter and dialog wheel bit you just described your average CRPG.
 
Derangel said:
Outside of the shooter and dialog wheel bit you just described your average CRPG.
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Pretty much. The point is that almost all of em get compared to each other. Just like you see most open world games get compared to GTA and each other.

Edit: Now that I think of it though, this game may also be compared to the Hitman series somewhat. Atleast in my opinion.
 
Okay, but first of all Mass Effect is a party based RPG.

So right away you're comparing a party based RPG to a single character based RPG. I'm pretty certain that if I had attempted to compare, say, Deus Ex with Mass Effect 2, most people would've objected for that very reason.

Secondly, in the Mass Effect games the manner in which you level up your character doesn't fundamentally change the way you play the game - my understanding is that in Alpha Protocol a stealth based character is going to play much different than an action based character.

Also, Mass Effect 2 takes place in space.

If I had attempted to compare Mass Effect 2 (a party based RPG) with Dragon Age (another party based RPG) I'm willing to bet that most people would've objected... but why, they're both party based RPGs that take place in worlds that are somewhat confined... in other words, they're not open world RPGs... you can even play Dragon Age like it's Mass Effect if you want to... or vice versa... and of course they were both produced by the same developer. But people would've objected to that comparison because one game takes place in outer space, and the other takes place in a fantasy setting.

I just don't see what a science fiction party based RPG that takes place in outer space has to do with an espionage game in which you step into the shoes of a single person. It's a bizarre comparison if you ask me.
 
I have watched all the videos for this game and seems like it might be an okay game. one thing that bothers me though is that the graphics look 5 years old. hell even HL 2 looks as good or better as the trailers I have seen for this game. yes I know graphics arent everything but the way many ports go these days it will probably take a beefy card just to maintain 50-60fps even though its an ass ugly game. :(
 
I don't know. ME felt party-light rather than a full party game. You can sort of turn them loose and let them do their own thing. Infact I rarely even bothered controlling my party in ME2. If dragon age felt like a medieval shooter feel (like M&B) rather than a point&click I'd compare it to ME.
 
I only saw the commercials and also was like "wtf, looks like a PS2 game" but I didn't know it was at all RPG-like - maybe this is what DeusEx fans have been waiting for?
 
This one is interesting, so far Obsidian haven't quite managed to equal Bioware's games. As this is all new IP, could it be the one to really rival the best of Bioware? I quite like the idea of a modern setting RPG.

Pre-orders are odd though, PS3/Xbox 360 get bonus items. PC gets nothing extra - on the plus side that guarantees I will wait for the inevitable price drop after it's been available for a bit
 
Ugh. I still can't stand this 3rd-person perspective stuff. Looks like it's here to stay...
 
I've been pretty interested about this game for a while. Though I am kind of wary of Obsidian, especially after KOTOR2 and NWN2
 
cannondale06 said:
I have watched all the videos for this game and seems like it might be an okay game. one thing that bothers me though is that the graphics look 5 years old. hell even HL 2 looks as good or better as the trailers I have seen for this game. yes I know graphics arent everything but the way many ports go these days it will probably take a beefy card just to maintain 50-60fps even though its an ass ugly game. :(
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This is exactly what I thought as well - the graphics I saw in screenshots, and on Utube looked dated to me. Ugly is the word I also would have used.

Until I watched a high definition video of the latest build of the game. I was very surprised at how good the game looked.
 
cannondale06 said:
I have watched all the videos for this game and seems like it might be an okay game. one thing that bothers me though is that the graphics look 5 years old. hell even HL 2 looks as good or better as the trailers I have seen for this game. yes I know graphics arent everything but the way many ports go these days it will probably take a beefy card just to maintain 50-60fps even though its an ass ugly game. :(
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Pretty much agreed. The crappy visuals are making me a little nervous that it's shoddily coded. Probably an unfounded concern.
 
WabeWalker said:
This is exactly what I thought as well - the graphics I saw in screenshots, and on Utube looked dated to me. Ugly is the word I also would have used.

Until I watched a high definition video of the latest build of the game. I was very surprised at how good the game looked.
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please show me that high def video that you think makes the game look good. I believe I have watched all the videos of this game and indeed is VERY ugly and outdated looking. heck even the preview for the game form yesterday shows the games looks horrible. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-hd-alpha-protocol/100121
 
No it's in-game action. The video was on the PC-Gamer game disc for this month. I just thought that that particular video I saw (maybe because it was in high def) was way better looking than anything I've seen on Utube.

That said, apparently this game is using the Unreal engine, which I happen to love. I've noticed that a lot of people don't like that engine. If you believe that Mirror's Edge was an ugly game, then you probably won't like Alpha Protocol either. It has that same clean look to it.
 
I would rate the graphics as Acceptable, but definitely not pretty. Though, if the game is fun, I really don't care.

The only thing Obsidian has produced that I really didn't like was Storm of Zehir. Everything else, to me, was great.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
I would rate the graphics as Acceptable, but definitely not pretty. Though, if the game is fun, I really don't care.

The only thing Obsidian has produced that I really didn't like was Storm of Zehir. Everything else, to me, was great.
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Unfortunately, Storm of Zehir was a low point for Obsidian, and a horrible way to end NWN 2.
 
WabeWalker said:
I just don't see what a science fiction party based RPG that takes place in outer space has to do with an espionage game in which you step into the shoes of a single person. It's a bizarre comparison if you ask me.
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I'll give ya that one. Now that I think of it, better comparisons would be Deus Ex and Hitman. Unfortunately, due to the close ties Obsidian and Bioware have AND the similar dialog systems the comparisons between the two will be made.
 
Have it pre-orderd at GameStop, who does claim to be offering bonuses for the PC. The game looks interesting, though I agree with the general view towards the graphics. For a game that has gone gold, they could be better. Regardless, it seems worth looking into.
 
Comparison discussion aside, what type of spy are you guys going to build for your first run?

I'm going for a stealth-based H2H infiltrator with a very light splash of pistols.
 
Riftsaw said:
Comparison discussion aside, what type of spy are you guys going to build for your first run?

I'm going for a stealth-based H2H infiltrator with a very light splash of pistols.
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Well that's exactly the build I was contemplating creating.

It remains to be seen how this is going to play out. Honestly, has any developer EVER succeeded in creating a hybrid? You've got your stealth games, and your action games - in attempting to cater to two different types of gamers most developers, in the past, have ended up pleasing neither.

I'm beginning to fear though that this is going to be yet another RPG light - as opposed to a true RPG, which is what I had been expecting.

I mean, look at the Wizard class in the Neverwinter Nights series. That class plays much different than the Fighter class does. How come an RPG can't have two completely different classes like this in a modern day setting - I see no reason why not. Obsidian had better not mess this one up like they did with Storm Of Zehir.
 
I was interested until I saw the commercials on TV. They were so bad that I decided to wait until it hits budget pricing.
 
Yeah, I can see why. Kind of seems like they're trying way too hard to sell the "blow stuff up, bone every chick in the game" kind of angle.
 
Agree on Sega's marketing, lol.

I have gotten used to being an early adopter; kick myself for it most the time. I'll throw some reviews up once I get my hands on it.
 
What I'm expecting is basically a Mass Effect clone (not a bad thing) with its own wrinkles. My gut tells me to expect to see review scores somewhere along the lines of probably a lot of 7/10s, maybe a few strays 6/10s, and maybe an 8/10 here and there if we're lucky.

I hope this is a good game.
 
Q-BZ said:
What I'm expecting is basically a Mass Effect clone (not a bad thing) with its own wrinkles. My gut tells me to expect to see review scores somewhere along the lines of probably a lot of 7/10s, maybe a few strays 6/10s, and maybe an 8/10 here and there if we're lucky.

I hope this is a good game.
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