Air cooling world record in a miniITX case

lucidrenegade

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Sorry, but that's an EEB form factor board so there's no way it would fit in a miniITX size case.
 

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Sorry, but that's an EEB form factor board so there's no way it would fit in a miniITX size case.
Well, I claimed a miniITX case and Thermaltake sells the P1 as a “miniITX” case.

The hard part was fitting an EEB motherboard in a miniITX case !

And it is a world record in any case size /desktop PC :)
 

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Beautiful build but definitely not even close to being a mATX case .. no way in hell do mATX cases have 8x PCIe back mounting points!! .. and I'm guessing the motheboard has mounting risers for lower part as well. ;)
 

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Once PCIE 4.0 ITX motherboards come out, you could actually quad-bifurcate a x16 4.0 slot into 4 seperate 4.0x4 lanes of bandwidth.

That would be equivalent to 4 PCIE 3.0x8 slots which is still arguably enough bandwidth to get most of the performance out most graphics cards.

Looking forward to the ITX revision once PCIE4 comes out (y)
 
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Beautiful build but definitely not even close to being a mATX case .. no way in hell do mATX cases have 8x PCIe back mounting points!! .. and I'm guessing the motheboard has mounting risers for lower part as well. ;)
well... the case didn't come with any of those things. It had to be all modified or made from scratch. I picked the Thermaltake miniITX case because because I could get the most amount of air through it without any case fans (I like silence). The 8 slot bracket was modded from a P% case, the slots, risers, and internal reinforcement were all made from scratch. The SSD caddie was also CNC-ed from scratch. The power supply mount and case reinforcement was also a scratch construction. I have not seen anyone pack as much in such a dense space - and run cool quiet and get great scores (and completely stable)


prototype SSD caddie
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refined SSD caddie

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An open air case which still has a volume of 53.2L, GTFO with any miniITX designation.
 

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MITX is accurate whether you like it or not.

Now SFF, on the other hand... but then OP never claimed SFF.
Which is why he's changed his claim multiple times since starting the thread. He modded a large case that originally only had mITX mounting holes to hold the board, claimed it was an mITX build and then proceeds to retract everything but the fact the case he used is marketed as mITX, sure, congrats.
 

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Which is why he's changed his claim multiple times since starting the thread. He modded a large case that originally only had mITX mounting holes to hold the board, claimed it was an mITX build and then proceeds to retract everything but the fact the case he used is marketed as mITX, sure, congrats.
I only saw him edit it once for content, appending "case" to his mITX claim. And that's fair: there are mITX cases, mITX motherboards, even graphics cards are marketed as mITX when they fit within a certain length constraint. He said "mITX build." He didn't specify which component until he felt he needed to after being torn to ribbons by pedants.
 

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Just feel Epyc not getting the love they deserve. Have been a member before forgot password. I do appreciate his build for sure have a dual xeon e5-2683 v3 all core turbo 3.0ghz Asrack rig 4 1080ti {3800 cinebench r15} and love intel single core performance!
 

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Just feel Epyc not getting the love they deserve. Have been a member before forgot password. I do appreciate his build for sure have a dual xeon e5-2683 v3 all core turbo 3.0ghz Asrack rig 4 1080ti {3800 cinebench r15} and love intel single core performance!
It’s a great score and I think you’re right, the epic platform doesn’t get as much attention.

I tried to build a dual epic workstation but ran into a few problems I couldn’t overcome.
My criteria was 4 full pcie spaced slots for quad graphics, but despite all efforts I could not find one.

Then, AMD said they were imminently releasing the dual 340v pro card with 2 Gpus on a card and so I thought I could build the epyc supermicro dual board and put 2 of the 340v pro cards on it and get quad graphics. Again that was a June 2018 paper launch and AMD never rolled it out. I still look around for a 340v pro on occasion.

I am doing ANN and CNN deep learning algorithms and decided to stick with nvidia. I also do medical imaging and I had a tough time getting the memory allocation to work without an issue on the epyc.

Not a plug, but supermicro has better motherboard tech support than asus, so I reluctantly went to the asus board.

SUMMARY:

I admire the epic build, I wish I could have built it.


Great score sir
 
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This is very true you are pretty much relegated to single cpu boards to get 4 cards going which is ashame .withe all those lanes and we need sli certificate also.asrack has a nice new board and cinebench around 5500 Max r15.but 4 pcie x16 4 pcie 8x and 2 m2 slots with 16x memory slots.i do really like your build!and your right on cinebench r20 stock score 16000 at 2.6ghz.i do like this though https://valid.x86.fr/bench/6wzia8/16
 

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I only saw him edit it once for content, appending "case" to his mITX claim. And that's fair: there are mITX cases, mITX motherboards, even graphics cards are marketed as mITX when they fit within a certain length constraint. He said "mITX build." He didn't specify which component until he felt he needed to after being torn to ribbons by pedants.
Because it's not a mITX build. Sure he used one of the largest "cases" that is originally designed to hold a mITX board but still provides 5 expansion slots. He then manages to not only not fit a power supply into it so it can no longer be wall mounted like intended by the manufacturer, but mount the SSDs on the backside as well. Look, it's a great bit of modding, but it's no longer a mITX case even if it barely qualified as one in the first place.

I'm willing to be the TJ10 with the dual Epics at 69L is barely any larger than this build and it uses an SSI-EEB case.
 

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Because it's not a mITX build. Sure he used one of the largest "cases" that is originally designed to hold a mITX board but still provides 5 expansion slots. He then manages to not only not fit a power supply into it so it can no longer be wall mounted like intended by the manufacturer, but mount the SSDs on the backside as well. Look, it's a great bit of modding, but it's no longer a mITX case even if it barely qualified as one in the first place.

I'm willing to be the TJ10 with the dual Epics at 69L is barely any larger than this build and it uses an SSI-EEB case.
I think you're using the term "mITX" in place of "SFF." As long as we can agree it's a nice bit if modding though, I'll agree to disagree. :D
 

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well... the case didn't come with any of those things. It had to be all modified or made from scratch. I picked the Thermaltake miniITX case because because I could get the most amount of air through it without any case fans (I like silence). The 8 slot bracket was modded from a P% case, the slots, risers, and internal reinforcement were all made from scratch. The SSD caddie was also CNC-ed from scratch. The power supply mount and case reinforcement was also a scratch construction. I have not seen anyone pack as much in such a dense space - and run cool quiet and get great scores (and completely stable)


prototype SSD caddie
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rear latice modd
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refined SSD caddie

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That makes more sense. So much modding it's not an itX case anymore. God job on the fabrications!
 
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LOL. You're running with 2x XEONS that cost $10,000 each, and then I see this cheap-*ss stereo speaker system on your desk. :p
 
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Which is why he's changed his claim multiple times since starting the thread. He modded a large case that originally only had mITX mounting holes to hold the board, claimed it was an mITX build and then proceeds to retract everything but the fact the case he used is marketed as mITX, sure, congrats.
It's still an impressive build, by any stretch of the imagination. I don't fully get why he didn't get a P7 then, though, instead of trying to squeeze an E-ATX motherboard into a mITX case (technically, his case supports ATX -- so I'm not sure why they market it as mITX -- but not E-ATX).
 

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While a sweet build, that shitty cable management takes away from the 'wow' factor. Clean that up and retake pics and it'd be far better.
 

Venturi

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While a sweet build, that shitty cable management takes away from the 'wow' factor. Clean that up and retake pics and it'd be far better.
Sadly you're right. The all glass desk HIDES NOTHING.... I did try but there are so many cables and I haven't given it the time it deserves. I DID do some Zen cable management on the PC -so I am capable.... ;)
 

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nobody's hating, just correcting inaccuracy.
or were you talking about the cable mess?
Both. I just want to make sure he posts more pictures. The planning behind this build is quite impressive.

It was a quality approach with a soapbox title though (so I get why people got upset). It just felt a little harsh.
 

Venturi

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Here is the continuous read write transaction speed of the array

The difference in source and destination is that the drive being backed up is not as fast as the array it’s being backed up to

Anyhow, here it is. When copying fro array to array the read write spec are more uniform. This particular backup took over 3 minutes

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Venturi

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It's still an impressive build, by any stretch of the imagination. I don't fully get why he didn't get a P7 then, though, instead of trying to squeeze an E-ATX motherboard into a mITX case (technically, his case supports ATX -- so I'm not sure why they market it as mITX -- but not E-ATX).
Actually the TT P1 only supports a 6.7” x 6.7” (Mini ITX) motherboard. There are no holes or spacers for anything larger. Yes, if one mods it it can support bigger.

https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00003030

thank you by the way, I did have a P5 and P3 for the prior builds, but never a P7. I like small and just as powerful kinda thing.
 
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Actually the TT P1 only supports a 6.7” x 6.7” (Mini ITX) motherboard. There are no holes or spacers for anything larger. Yes, if one mods it it can support bigger.

https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00003030

thank you by the way, I did have a P5 and P3 for the prior builds, but never a P7. I like small and just as powerful kinda thing.
You're right: my bad. I must have had it confused with the P5 or something. In that case (pun intended), I don't get why ppl are so upset over the topic title, as the P1 is literally marked as 'Mini ITX'.

EDIT: While I'm correcting myself, it wasn't even an E-ATX board you were trying to squeeze in there, but an EEB one. :)
 
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