Adored's RTX 2080 Ti Review Roundup and Analysis

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  1. Kyle_Bennett

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    Jim "The Scottish Hammer" from AdoredTV gives us his thoughts about what all just happened with NVIDIA and its new RTX GPUS.

    Check out the video.
     
  2. Matt Christie

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    I call Jim "NostraScottsman"! That guy calls it right all of the time!
     
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    I think that his comments on the people that would buy a 2080 are hilarious. $100 more than the msrp of the 1080ti 18 months later for the same performance. Also, the call out to a $1500 3080ti with a 20% performance boost over the 2080ti that all the 2080ti adopters will buy before launch next year capped it all off perfectly.
     
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    I support him (and HardOCP btw) via Patreon. Love most of his videos. He really does a great job at analysis, and seems quite thorough.
     
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    I like how he considates all the info from the different reviews.

    I also heard it only takes developers a day to implement the DLSS sdk. I have high hopes.
     
  7. Kyle_Bennett

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    Link?
     
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    The charts should all say 2080 OC VS 1080 Stock. or 2080TI OC vs 1080ti Stock. Given that they are all Founders overclocked, they should of all been up against max overclock editions of 1080 and 1080ti.
     
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    I bought a 1080 when they came out because I wanted to go to 4k and I was still on 680 classified SLI.
    I then upgraded to the 1080ti when it came out with microcenters warranty.
    Definitely skipping rtx2080's. The price point is way crazy for the performance increase and as the video narrator states, currently 0 games with RTX.
     
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    An in his own words towards the end of the video about Nvidia as a whole. "And the milking will continue"
     
  12. Slade

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    No one is forcing you to buy anything. If you don't need it, don't buy it. On the other hand, I have to thank nvidia for giving a boost to my 1080 gtx I'm selling as a non crypto well cared for card. Just waiting on someone to give me my asking price....
     
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    A skippable generation. RTX in it's infancy, low gains vs. costs and a die shrink coming all adds up to 'not this time, thanks'. Just not compelling, very much like some of Intel's increases over the last few generations.
     
  14. Dayaks

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    Dude, but fine wine!!!

    #RTXtehrealfinewine
     
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    #RTXpricelikefinewhine
     
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    Like a fine wine, sure. It's expensive. It's pretentious. You can drink the whole bottle without getting wasted.

    A cheap bottle of tequila is none of these things. But it's a lot more fun, you can share it with friends without feeling bad about the price, and it creates amazing memories. Some memories you'd rather forget, sure, and some memories you wish you could remember more clearly, but great memories nonetheless, and you're pretty sure your ass was sore from the ATV ride, and who can spend time worrying about a sore ass when your head hurts this much?

    TL;DR Trust me, if you're thinking about springing for a RTX 2080, buy yourself the GTX 1080 ti and 6 bottles of cheap tequila instead. In 10 years you'll have forgotten the video card, but you'll always remember at least one of the bottles of tequila.


    P.S. Drink responsibly.
     
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  17. Stoly

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    My god I can't listen anymore. That guy's voice is terrible.
     
  18. Kyle_Bennett

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    I think you just won Post of the Day. lulz
     
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    Cheapest 1080 Ti on Newegg is the 3 fan MSI Duke at $630 and the cheapest 2080 in stock is $790. That's ~$27 a bottle for 6. Should easily be able to find something halfway drinkable.
     
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    It's too bad he couldn't have written it an article.

    Then I would have read it.

    Homie don't play video reviews.
     
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    This guy deserves a novelty title! :p
     
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    Krazy925 epeen +11

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    Fucking thank you. Thought I was the only person who basically doesn’t want to listen to some bumble fuck talk.

    I can read much faster than someone can talk.
     
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    perfectly expressed. Only worth purchasing for someone coming from a very old card or rich people who give zero F's about spending money
     
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    Can I settle for a nice bourbon or rye instead? Me and tequila aren’t quite friendos.
     
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    FTSFY
     
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    I dont think we will see higher prices next tume. These will end up slightly below msrp to save face for nvidia. Very few will pay that price sans mining bubble.
     
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    It is not about forcing anybody, but it is about deception to convince somebody to buy.
     
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    Is that any better than the morons in the other camp paying double MSRP because AMD can't maintain stock ever artificially driving prices higher?
     
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    YouTube has a playback speed control. Use it.
     
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  30. Tweak155

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    It seems like people realize what they're paying for (at least around here), I don't see any deception.

    Honestly I don't see any deception anywhere that I can think of. Just extremely poor value for the money, which not everyone cares about.
     
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    AMD's fastest card is slower than a two year old GTX 1080, for $100 more. Wow, what great fucking value AMD provides to thrifty gamers! I'm convinced that if the tables were turned, AMD would be gifting us 2080Ti performance for $499. Because they're a benevolent charity looking out for our best interest , and nVidia is the evil empire. :rolleyes:
     
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    Honestly there are two things going on here, Nvidia knows there is a market that will buy anything they release at the high-end and they are clearly taking advantage of that with the founders edition taxes and the inflated prices on this refresh generation of GPu. The real issue is looking at the price of the 2080 versus the 1080 TI and not seeing a 30% or so increase that is standard for a refresh. This represents a very bad new environment for the consumer where buying the new architecture may not have any benefit over the old architecture. You can wax poetic about RTX and the potential it may hold down the road, but as it stands this is unquestionably a bad standards to support by purchasing these cards right now.
     
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    If I was in the market for $700ish dollar card right now I'd totally go for the new card with new tech for $100 more. I spent an extra $100 over a standard $400 GTX670 just to get 2GB more VRAM and that turned out to be a great choice as that card is still being used to this day. There was only one instance at the time I bought where the 4GB outshined the 2GB (Modded Skyrim) and it was worth it then and it's worth it now since most modern games use around 4GB. If you're in the market for that expensive of a card $100 is hardly an issue and IF NV releases a better one next year that you have to have you're still going to be able to sell the 2080 for more than you will a 1080TI.
     
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    On the price issue, a large factor into the cost is die size. The RTX 2080 Ti coming up 775mm Sq. vs 471mm Sq. of the 1080 Ti. Which is approximately 60% larger, I could not find the die size of the 2080 (in a very quick search, didnt try to hard) but it safe to assume it is larger as well, probably by a similar amount. Since it 13.6 billion transistors vs 7.2 of the 1080 ~53% more transistors.

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13346/the-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-2080-founders-edition-review
    https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3356-die-size-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-evga-xc2-ft-der8auer
     
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    Nahhh, prefer written sources thanks.

    If I want to listen to someone talk fast and squeaky, I’ll piss my wife off by buying a new gun or something.
     
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    I love his long winded explanations, tons of info. very measured responses and predictions that have a very good track record.
     
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    Buy a RTX2080Ti, that would work :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::D:D
     
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    How the fuck did I miss that joke. Shit.

    Also I have bad hearing, the truth is a little more depressing.
     
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    I would bet money Kyle won't only post the 1080TI reference edition against Nvidia's overclocked 2080 and 2080ti. I bet he pulls out a 2000+ mhz overclock.
     
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    For the cost difference, you could buy 3 bottles of good tequila, and be all around happier. :)