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Unless the device itself is able to power your phone regardless of whether it has a battery or not. That is certainly possible.
What the hell is up with state GOP governors making sensationalist changes to laws? Wisconsin for the union thing, Maine for wanting to amend the child labor law, and now Michigan for 4th amendment violation. Are they that desperate for attention?
My phone won't turn on without the battery in it, I've tried.
Everything you've said they need from the phone could be verified with the records from the service provided with a valid judicially verified warrant. No reason to need the phone.
keep your phone out of view, say you dont have one with you. Problem solved. If there's not a dead body in your backseat or your car doesnt smell like weed, they cant search you.
Individual officers, yet. Departments, not so much. For the most part, cops are decent guys trying to do the right thing. 1 out of 10 of them might be power-tripping abusers, but even those guys mostly know better than to try to sell stolen trade secrets to a company's competitors. I'm not in any business where trade secrets exist and I know that there's a good chance of being turned in if you approached a large company with their competitors' trade secrets. It's rarely ever worth the risk for them to enter into a deal like that...even if you take ethics out of the equation, the potential profit doesn't justify the potential fines, jail time, and stock price dip if they are caught out.
If they pull you over in your car for a violation like 'speeding', 'drunk driving', etc aren't they able to within reason search your car? I often find shows like Cops, they pull someone over, you can clearly see they are under the influence of something, search the car and ohh look 'cocaine in the glove compartment'.
Isn't searching areas/things like bags inside your car not that different from searching your phone in a manner of speaking? If you think of a bag/glove compartment as a storage-medium similar to a phone/usb thumb drive/etc? One's virtual storage and the other actual storage. If someone had a list of all the numbers they'd recently called written down on a peice of paper in the glove compartment, would you consider it wrong for them to read it while searching a car?
This one seems a bit ....odd. If they had cause for pulling you over and deem something arrest worthy, they have cause to search your vehicle and what's inside it including your phone. The people saying they'll sue for consitutional right violations blah blah blah.... good luck!
To an extent, this seems slightly useful data though. If an officer sees a teenager texting and pulls the teenager over for texting, it seems easily contestable in court. Teenager deleted the texts/phone call records during the time she was driving and says 'you can look at my phone' in court and subsequently the 'modified' phone shows no texts/phone calls. Granted, phone records could be subponea'd but that would take a lot of police resources/time/effort and possibly a 2nd court hearing.
Would it be preferable just to have this situation, teenager pulled over for texting...
Teenager: "no, i wasn't texting officer!!!"
Office: "Can I see your phone? Gee, a text from 1 minute ago, 2 minutes ago, 4 minutes ago, 6 minutes ago. Oh and 12 minutes ago you started a 5 minute long phone call and have no hands-free device in your car."
Officer downloads copy of phone log/texts for use in court.
Individual officers, yet. Departments, not so much. For the most part, cops are decent guys trying to do the right thing. 1 out of 10 of them might be power-tripping abusers, but even those guys mostly know better than to try to sell stolen trade secrets to a company's competitors. I'm not in any business where trade secrets exist and I know that there's a good chance of being turned in if you approached a large company with their competitors' trade secrets. It's rarely ever worth the risk for them to enter into a deal like that...even if you take ethics out of the equation, the potential profit doesn't justify the potential fines, jail time, and stock price dip if they are caught out.
The hell if im handing over my phone just because they want it. They cant take my laptop out of my car and download it why the fuck am I going to give up my smart phone.
that's when the cop looks up the battery model for your phone, goes to his trunk and pulls out the appropriate battery for you phone and inserts it into your now powered up phone.
My phone won't turn on without the battery in it, I've tried.
Getting nailed for lying to a police officer is way worse than a ticket for using your phone while driving. Not worth the risk.
Just don't say anything, and don't give him the phone. You aren't lying, and chances are he has no legal right to touch your phone so you aren't disobeying a lawful order either.
So what happens if someone is pulled over and tells the cop they don't have a phone? How does the cop determine if that person is lying or not? If he wants to search them and the vehicle to find out if they're telling the truth, does that not require a warrant? If he searches without a warrant and tries to throw the "probable cause" card and it turns out the person indeed doesn't have a phone, can't he get in serious trouble for a 4th Amendment violation?
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How about somebody write a virus you can host on your phone to where when they plug their extraction device in the virus executes and infects their device.
What would be even better is to download all the extraction device data onto the phone (or upload it to a public domain if it's too large). Then we can all see how well the extraction device protects everyone's private information.
No, I meant that the data capture device could be designed to power up a device without a battery in place.
Unless it can match my phone's battery contacts and provide it with the right kind of power, it won't work. The Droid pulls its power from the battery. It can take 2-3 minutes before I can even turn it on if it's been sitting drained for more than a week.
You know the little port where you plug your charger in? Your phone draws power from there as well.
You know the little port where you plug your charger in? Your phone draws power from there as well.