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F1xxer said:
It depends on what types of jobs you are going for. If you want an hourly retail type job maybe at Best Buy or so to get your foot in the door, it "might" be necessary. If you are going for a full-time job with a corporation somewhere, or with some type of IT organization, no one ever discusses the A+ certs. Once you aspire to do something more than work at Best buy, you'll never need them again. They aren't ever going to hurt you, but their benefits are a lot more limited than some will admit. Good luck if you are pursuing them.so_cal_forever said:
Along this line of thought: I have many certs including A+. I didn't find value in any until I earned the higher level certs. The only time I have been asked if I had a certification, they were asking about MCSE or CCNP.djnes said:
so_cal_forever said:
I hate to tell you, but society will get MORE computerized in the future, not less( maybe not at earlier rates though). IMO, the only other career feild that might surpass it is medical ( which just so happens to rely HEAVILY on computers).
get your ass to mars.noobtech said:We are all obsolete... the Terminators are the future.
...look out for Skynet!!
)F1xxer said:You guys who are saying certs are worthless need to broaden your perspective here. I would imagine most of you are from large cities where I.T. geniuses grow on trees. For people who don't live in metropolises certs can be a HUGE help on your resume.
Example: The town I work in has about 90,000 people including the small suburbs. We have three colleges spewing out retards with computer degrees left and right. However, the area has few people who know their heads from their asses (they can do the school work but don't have any real-world skills). Most people here are in the IT field because it's a job, not because they love it as a hobby. So they don't put in the extra effort to tinker at home or persue certifications. So when HR people see CCNA, or MCSE or MCP or even A+ Certified it stands out. 3 years ago my A+ helped me get an entry level job in the IT field (an actual IT job, not a BB or CompUSA job). The MCP cert I listed on my resume in February helped me get a mid-level IT job. I know it helped because
1. I beat out 33 other applicants (remember, small area here
2. I don't have a college degree
3. My new boss couldn't stop telling people about how cool it was to have a Microsoft certified person in the office.
Yeah, to me and many of you these certifications are easy and not a big deal. But when it comes down to a coin-toss between two applicants and one has certs and one doesn't, the certifications could push the odds in your favor. Or, if it's like my case and you live in BFE, the cert could get you a damned fine job almost on its own.
You're right, except for one small mistake. You are lumping all certs together, and talking about them all as one thing. I certainly agree that your MS cert is useful, and considering that I am currently job searching, I can vouch that MS certs are useful. You have to keep the A+ out of that discussion though. The A+ is the one most people consider useless in the IT field, simply because it's not very meaningful. It's useful for some, depending on the job you are after, but for most, looking above the retail jobs, it isn't going to make a difference whether you have it or not.F1xxer said:You guys who are saying certs are worthless need to broaden your perspective here. I would imagine most of you are from large cities where I.T. geniuses grow on trees. For people who don't live in metropolises certs can be a HUGE help on your resume.
Example: The town I work in has about 90,000 people including the small suburbs. We have three colleges spewing out retards with computer degrees left and right. However, the area has few people who know their heads from their asses (they can do the school work but don't have any real-world skills). Most people here are in the IT field because it's a job, not because they love it as a hobby. So they don't put in the extra effort to tinker at home or persue certifications. So when HR people see CCNA, or MCSE or MCP or even A+ Certified it stands out. 3 years ago my A+ helped me get an entry level job in the IT field (an actual IT job, not a BB or CompUSA job). The MCP cert I listed on my resume in February helped me get a mid-level IT job. I know it helped because
1. I beat out 33 other applicants (remember, small area here
2. I don't have a college degree
3. My new boss couldn't stop telling people about how cool it was to have a Microsoft certified person in the office.
Yeah, to me and many of you these certifications are easy and not a big deal. But when it comes down to a coin-toss between two applicants and one has certs and one doesn't, the certifications could push the odds in your favor. Or, if it's like my case and you live in BFE, the cert could get you a damned fine job almost on its own.