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A few questions about Creative X-Fi
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thats why i never bothered plugging anythign into that port...but it does say digital I/O as Terra pointed outJason711 said:
but the cord is analog, right?
HighwayAssassins said:thats why i never bothered plugging anythign into that port...but it does say digital I/O as Terra pointed out
but the cord is analog, right?
yeah, its analog/stereo. digital would have a single ended rca style connector. and that would have to run through a DAC and amplifier. so it really isnt worth it unless you have a dac that is known to be better than the one you have on your sound card.
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You get 5.1 on the digital output when you play a true 5.1 source (DTS or Dolby) like a DVD).
More on that here:
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/699/what_s_up_with_computer_audio_part_2_follow_up_article/
Terra...
after readin thru this thread....all i have to say is
BF2, Quake 4, and CoD2 sound AMAZING compared to my old audigy 2 value and 2.1 speaker setup....
ive heard sounds i never notivced before, and yes it has that bullet wizzing by your head effect in game, ive noticed myself dodging to the side in games from explosions or gunfire...i love it!
BF2, Quake 4, and CoD2 sound AMAZING compared to my old audigy 2 value and 2.1 speaker setup....
ive heard sounds i never notivced before, and yes it has that bullet wizzing by your head effect in game, ive noticed myself dodging to the side in games from explosions or gunfire...i love it!
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The stats you posted that were so BAD ASS were for the X-Fi Elite Pro, NOT the Audigy 2. This thread however is for a X-Fi, neither the X-Fi Elite Pro or the Audigy 2.Terra said:
You have got to be kidding me. Right here and now I realize you don't know a bit about digital audio. You have fun when you plug that into your digital I/O port and try to feed digital signal through a 2 channel analog cord. Read the description on Creative's page and tell me if you see anything about digital audio? The connector is a standard 2 channel connection to 2 RCA plugs, not a digital RCA cord.
Far from debunked. When watching a DVD, I prefer my audio to be 100% untouched, something you dont understand.
Again, find me a connection that goes from your digital I/O to a standard RCA or optical cable, and I might consider a X-Fi. For now, there isn't a solution. I prefer not to have a huge mixing box (X-Fi Elite Pro) sitting on my desk just to get a few standard digital connections.It's not from the "front" of my PC, again your statements have little to do with the real world
I have digital In/Out fra the back of my CARD....and from the back of this:
Please go re-read what I wrote. I stated that there IS A BIG difference between onboad analog and Creative's analog quality. Creative blows it out of the water. I then stated that when using digital media, there is no difference between your digital output and my digital output. I suggest that if you have a receiver with a digital input, find a cable, and test it out.
Please don't quote me if your not going to quote me correctly. Let me quote myself. Thank you.Terra said:
tgillespie said:
I stated that there was a difference between Creative analog audio and onboard analog audio. Let me repostaltcon said:
Lastly, lets clear up something on THX.tgillespie said:
Please take a look at your sound card or your THX media and tell me if you can find any chip or CPU on it refering to THX? Nope? What does this tell you? THX is a certification standard. You are correct in that there are different THX certifications. A certification is a certification in which the equipment can pass certain frequency tests, not enhance your audio. The THX equipment sounds only as good as your source feeds.[url="http://member.php?u=23648" said:
no shit, thanks for clearing the OBVIOUS for me. 
and as far as digital outputs are concerned, there will be a difference (depending on quality of dacs) between an optical connection and the digital coax. the optical dac introduces a jitter into the signal (again, depending on quality).
i do agree that i want nothing "extra" touching my audio.
and as far as digital outputs are concerned, there will be a difference (depending on quality of dacs) between an optical connection and the digital coax. the optical dac introduces a jitter into the signal (again, depending on quality).
i do agree that i want nothing "extra" touching my audio.
tgillespie said:
I was responding to your claim in Post #14:
That was your statment, I can only replay to what you write, not what you, sorry.
No?
3.5mm 1/8 MINI 2 RCA AUDIO CABLE IPOD/PC Y ADAPTER
This kind of cable can also be used for digital connetions plug the cable to the digital out of your soundcard and connet the white/black output to your coaxial in.
If you won't take my word for it, ask Creative...
Or look at this piccy from my X-FI quick guide:
Again:
That cabel allows for digital out
If you won't take my word for it, ask Creative...
I even have more options:
That box even allows me to control the mater volume of my PC speakers via my remote...
If you don't like the box fine.
Don't but creative...problem solved.
No one is forcing you...
But you are making a lot of comments about a product you won't buy...
Why do you hate Creative?
All audio is dependant on the source feed?
Terra...
obviously, if you play an mp3 over extremely hi-fi equiment it is going to expose what it truely sounds like. your not gonna like it.
that cable certainly wasnt designed for a digital signal, though technically just about any wire can carry one. i personally wouldnt put any stock in it.
but then again, i may be coming from an entirely wrong angle. so disregard.
that cable certainly wasnt designed for a digital signal, though technically just about any wire can carry one. i personally wouldnt put any stock in it.
but then again, i may be coming from an entirely wrong angle. so disregard.
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Terra, I think you may be thinking of this. A digital coax input does not have slots for 2 RCA connections. I'm glad you have more options, but I simply don't have $350 to drop on a sound card. My movies sound exactly the same as yours, so no reason to spend the cash. I'm glad your able to control the volume with a remote. I too can control my volume with a remote. I don't dislike Creative, I just find it stupid that you have to spend so much money to get standard digital connections. I've owned Creative products and have been very satisfied with them when gaming. Outside of gaming, I find their feature set useless. Lastly, when talking THX, your audio is as good as its source. Unlike Dolby decoders, there are no THX decoders that enhance your audio to a higher quality.
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Cables are not digital. Cables are cables. The cable you linked to has a 2 channel 3.5mm jack which wouldn't fit up correctly on your digital I/O port. Take a look at the jack I linked to and you will see that its 1 channel.Terra said:
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Yes.Terra said:
Please remain on topic. The poster wanted help with configuring his 5500s with his X-Fi. Being that I have 5500s, I offered my advice on sound setup. Being that you have an X-Fi, stop arguing about remotes and give the guy some advice.
tgillespie said:
Oh, my bad.
This is the cable you want:
http://dk.europe.creative.com/shop/product.asp?category=12&subcategory=0&product=179&
Digital Jack to Digital DIN and RCA Adapter - 3 Pole
Something like that you where thinking about?
Strangely I can't find it on creative english page, only the danish link
Terra - Sorry for the confusion
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Not that. See how the coax connection is female. Every coax connection I have seen on devices has been female, so your cable would need to be male. I have no idea what that red thing is, but its not needed. This is what one needs. http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/RCA-mini-spdif.html It does not have to be made by Creative either.Terra said:Oh, my bad.
This is the cable you want:
http://dk.europe.creative.com/shop/product.asp?category=12&subcategory=0&product=179&
Digital Jack to Digital DIN and RCA Adapter - 3 Pole
Something like that you where thinking about?
Strangely I can't find it on creative english page, only the danish link
Terra - Sorry for the confusion
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OK, I go grab my retail American Beauty because its the only movie I know of off the top of my head with DTS. pop that bitch into my drive and play it with PowerDVD 6. When set to Dolby 5.1, it sounds fine. When set to DTS however, sound just stops. I mess aroudn in the little creative control panel to decode externally, still no sound...
DTS just doesnt work! anyone know how to fix this? Does it matter than i am on an analog 6 ch direct connection to my Z-5500's? (it shouldnt)
DTS just doesnt work! anyone know how to fix this? Does it matter than i am on an analog 6 ch direct connection to my Z-5500's? (it shouldnt)
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i will try WMP
*shudders*
*shudders*
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still no sound.
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you are right...I had to install some plugins for PowerDVD.Terra said:
It works now
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videolan? you think it will sound better?Jason711 said:
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My biggest caveat with Creative's cards is that they do not do hardware decoding of Dolby or DTS. There is no excuse for that on cards as good as theirs.
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yea, i can see where you are coming from...PCMusicGuy said:
but in Creatives Defense, you are wrong. the X-Fi does decode it onboard.
Creative should be including those digital out cables with any card that has that ridiculous jack, and not forcing you to go to a foreign language site to find the appropriate cable that they carry. Most video cards with video out will include a cable that will allow you to connect anything you want.