8K OLED TV is FINALLY out

frisbfreek

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Hasn't the LG ZX been out for a while now? And the Z9 last year was basically the same TV except the 8K processing was on a separate box. Granted LG had some supply issues, but other reviewers have had this TV for months.
 

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Hasn't the LG ZX been out for a while now? And the Z9 last year was basically the same TV except the 8K processing was on a separate box. Granted LG had some supply issues, but other reviewers have had this TV for months.
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Jumpem

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What is the point when most content is still not even 4K? Streaming services are offering more and more 4K, absolutely nothing 8K though. Cable operators still don't offer any networks in 4K, and many aren't even 1080i.
 

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What is the point when most content is still not even 4K? Streaming services are offering more and more 4K, absolutely nothing 8K though. Cable operators still don't offer any networks in 4K, and many aren't even 1080i.
To me the only reasons would be:
* You want an 8K OLED, and the 4K ones only go to 77".
* You want to watch 8K Youtube videos.
* You want to use it as a really big 8K computer monitor. A big caveat though is that the LG 8K TVs can't do 8K @ 60hz RGB/4:4:4, so you need to be ok with 4:2:0 or 30hz.
* Gloating rights.

To me the upscaling improvements are super minimal. "Future-proofing" is also a really bad reason, as by the time 8K becomes mainstream, there will undoubtedly be better display technologies and handling of 8K signal/HDMI 2.1 than what these 2020 TVs offer.
 

LukeTbk

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What is the point when most content is still not even 4K? Streaming services are offering more and more 4K, absolutely nothing 8K though. Cable operators still don't offer any networks in 4K, and many aren't even 1080i.
Is that different than when 4K screens started ?

Has for cable/satellite they do have some few rare networks (usually sports/nature) in 4K in my market.

If you can look at 4, 4K sport game at the same time I imagine that an possible usage.

I wonder who/how and why industry seem to jump over 6K, I imagine some focus told them that what was needed to impress consumers or something, because 4 time more pixels than 4K is quite the ask, better come up with really good compression technology or a game changer in signal bandwidth or the image quality will be really bad, I think blind test showed people prefered at equal bandwidth 1080p over 4K at least to 50mbits and the difference between relevant around 80mbits, for 8K over 4K what will be when it start to actually look better, at 150-200 mbits ?
 

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its still not mainstream...
I imagine you wanted to quote the some channel are 4K now, you are right and even for the 4K sports channel, not all the games are in 4K, at least that was the case last year, depended of the local infrastructure where the game were played. Maybe it will even "die" before becoming 4K for most channel.

That said extremely heavily compressed 4K streaming (from the Netflix/Disney+) is by now quite mainstream I would imagine. And I think that is what will help push those specs a lot, people compare a 25 mbits signal with the 4K tags to a 5mbits signal without it and assume it look better because it is 4K (when a 25mbits 1080p signal would probably look better in reality), they will be able to do the same, stream a 35-50 mbits signal with a 8K tags on it instead of 15-25 mbits signal with a 4K tag on it, and people that bought 8K will be happy with the better image quality thinking that 8K had anything to do with it (and I suspect make it so you cannot fully enjoy the better stream quality without 8K equipment anyway)
 

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To me the only reasons would be:
* You want an 8K OLED, and the 4K ones only go to 77".
* You want to watch 8K Youtube videos.
* You want to use it as a really big 8K computer monitor. A big caveat though is that the LG 8K TVs can't do 8K @ 60hz RGB/4:4:4, so you need to be ok with 4:2:0 or 30hz.
* Gloating rights.

To me the upscaling improvements are super minimal. "Future-proofing" is also a really bad reason, as by the time 8K becomes mainstream, there will undoubtedly be better display technologies and handling of 8K signal/HDMI 2.1 than what these 2020 TVs offer.
Very on point. The 8k aspect of the TV is definitely a gimmicky selling point to take advantage of people who don't know much about A/V. Having said that and like you said - if you want 88", you'll be getting one of these 8k. Of course there are some people who would get a TV with this just for the bragging rights because making a purchase like this for them in a penny in the bucket, so to speak. Definitely not for your average enthusiast.
 

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Of course there are some people who would get a TV with this just for the bragging rights because making a purchase like this for them in a penny in the bucket, so to speak.
Rich people usually didn't get there by being foolish with their money :p.
 

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Ugh, Unbox Therapy. Can't stand that guy, he does that faux angry bullshit voice all the time.

8K on TVs is not going to be useful for many years. At the price they are sold at these are just new money rich people status symbol things to keep up with the Joneses.

8K on a smaller, desktop display size device like say ~50" would be tremendous though. It would have excellent text clarity while simultaneously being capable of integer scaling to 4K or 1440p for gaming at decent framerates. I would love something like that.
 

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I have seen, just the other day, a "mature subject matter" website now offers their video in 5K. Eventually, these "mature subject matter" websites will be the first one who offer their video in 8K.
 

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I have seen, just the other day, a "mature subject matter" website now offers their video in 5K. Eventually, these "mature subject matter" websites will be the first one who offer their video in 8K.
Technology gone too far I say. The old DVD quality of mature subject matter might be better as seeing everything in high def is not necessarily what you want to see...
 
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