7800 GTX 3dmark 05 score leak

Teukka76 said:
Remember high import taxes and sales taxes in Europe.

PS. You should order 6800gt from Germany for 250€ = 300$.
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Wouldn't help me..we got these nice Danish "electronic" taxes, that will be put on..and then the normal 25% tax on anything you by in Denmark...
Not to menting that the avarage tax rate in DK on you pay check is around 50%...

Terracide - Out with socialisme! :mad:
 
lithium726 said:
you guys need to stop believe everything that is ever posted online, ill wait for the card to actually be RELEASED before i make any judgements on the card.
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Meh we're not all believing it. This stuff is fun to talk about, no matter what. In the end, of course it's only final hardware in latest games that matters, but some useless speculation/flaming/theorizing never hurt anybody. It's always exciting to see results like these that are leaked before details are officially released.
 
Not to bad, and when drivers finally come out for that actually kick ass (with ATi I have to wait 3 months for the card, with Nv I have to wait 3 months for the drivers!) then I bet it'll get another 10% boost. Remember when the 6800U first came out and the X800s, the X800Pro was faster than a 6800U at launch!
 
Terra said:
Wouldn't help me..we got these nice Danish "electronic" taxes, that will be put on..and then the normal 25% tax on anything you by in Denmark...
Not to menting that the avarage tax rate in DK on you pay check is around 50%...

Terracide - Out with socialisme! :mad:
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hmm...Denmark is part of European Union so the taxes are paid to only one member country which would be Germany in this case. So You pay jut the price in Germany + delivery. ;)
 
Skrying said:
with ATi I have to wait 3 months for the card, with Nv I have to wait 3 months for the drivers
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QFT, and well put
 
x850xt pe in england atm is only £300 with an exchange rate of about 1.81 £ to 1 $....how much is it?
 
Why even buy a G70 at this point? What game really needs this card (especially if there isn't a big boost to performance from the G60)? Imho I'd just skip this line and wait for the G80 or even G90 series since the current high end video cards seem to handle everything fine. At the very least I would wait to see what ATI has up their sleeves. Personally I probably won't buy another GPU until 2007 when "quad-core" CPU's are "supposedly" going to be out, and who knows what GPU's will be out then.

...hopefully PCI-Xpress will be fully matured by then. :rolleyes:
 
Skrying said:
Not to bad, and when drivers finally come out for that actually kick ass (with ATi I have to wait 3 months for the card, with Nv I have to wait 3 months for the drivers!) then I bet it'll get another 10% boost. Remember when the 6800U first came out and the X800s, the X800Pro was faster than a 6800U at launch!
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i dont think its going to be quite the same this time around becuase G70 AFAIK is based on NV40, which means NV doesnt have to write a whole new driver set to support these cards. ATI on teh other hand, will - so i thin the tables are going to be switched in regards to driver support this gen.

especially if there isn't a big boost to performance from the G60
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G60? :confused: you mean NV40?
 
lithium726 said:
i dont think its going to be quite the same this time around becuase G70 AFAIK is based on NV40, which means NV doesnt have to write a whole new driver set to support these cards. ATI on teh other hand, will - so i thin the tables are going to be switched in regards to driver support this gen.
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Last time ATi had to write totally new drivers for a core it ended up totally turning aroudn their driver team and making them easily equal to Nvidia in that department. Nvidia has a much harder time getting drivers out that allow them to push their cores, ATI doesnt it seems.
 
Skrying said:
Last time ATi had to write totally new drivers for a core it ended up totally turning aroudn their driver team and making them easily equal to Nvidia in that department. Nvidia has a much harder time getting drivers out that allow them to push their cores, ATI doesnt it seems.
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last time? you mean R420? no, they didnt. if you mean R300, then yes they did, but im willing to wager that the R520's driver support will not be as good as G70's just for the fact taht G70 has more driver maturity behind it already provided its based on NV40. if its not then they are at the same starting line.

and when NV40 came out, every driver release boosted preformance considerbally. they still are, almost every driver revision boosts performance. they arent as frequent as ATI's, but when they do come out, theyre quality.
 
lithium726 said:
last time? you mean R420? no, they didnt. if you mean R300, then yes they did, but im willing to wager that the R520's driver support will not be as good as G70's just for the fact taht G70 has more driver maturity behind it already provided its based on NV40. if its not then they are at the same starting line.

and when NV40 came out, every driver release boosted preformance considerbally. they still are, almost every driver revision boosts performance. they arent as frequent as ATI's, but when they do come out, theyre quality.
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They didnt have to change really anything at all with the R420, its a fancy and improved version of a R300.

I think the G70 move will be similair, and the R520 move will be something like the move to NV40 was.

ATi and Nvidia release differently, but I think now its safe to say that drivers from either company are really not holding back their current offerings, and generally by the 5th month of a card they have all their large boosts out of the way.
 
Hmm. Now where's the guy who claimed that two of these in SLI did 22,000 in 3dmark05...
 
Skrying said:
They didnt have to change really anything at all with the R420, its a fancy and improved version of a R300.

I think the G70 move will be similair, and the R520 move will be something like the move to NV40 was.

ATi and Nvidia release differently, but I think now its safe to say that drivers from either company are really not holding back their current offerings, and generally by the 5th month of a card they have all their large boosts out of the way.
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thats exactly what i said.
 
finalgt said:
Hmm. Now where's the guy who claimed that two of these in SLI did 22,000 in 3dmark05...
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Here I am :p

Seriously though, you'll just have to wait and see. I'm possitive that you'll see 22,000 in a GeForce7 SLI setup long before you'll see it in a R520 CrossFire setup. There'll be several editions of the G70 core, who's to say what we'll be teased with "pre-launch" to cause confusion to the ATI camp. After the launch, I'm sure you'll see different scores from different cores :D

P.S, who was to post the first "count down" thread? :eek:

In any case, a stock G70 at that 3Dmark05 score is still a better, as what would it be in OC mode? This could explain the discrepancies, as the result I had refered to could have been phase-change cooling versus the stock cooling.
 
jebo_4jc said:
Maybe. But a better illustration would be if ATi called R420 the M51. It would lead you to believe it is a totally different architecture.
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Nahh, too much trouble to control those comptuers from the Daystrom institue (remember what happend to the Enterprise) :D

Good grief, was that Trekkie or what :p
 
2Fresh said:
Saw this over at Overclockers the other day. NOT impressive at all. My X800XT/PE scores that.
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2Fresh, what did your card score before all of your $200 overclocking work? What was the jump, hmm?

Now take a card that gets what you have with your OC card at stock. Now spend the same $200 OC efforts on that new card.

What would you expect the result to be?
 
HighTest said:
What would you expect the result to be?
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I expect the card would ignite in a spectacular show of electrical fire...

The previous statement is based on the only pictures I've seen of the card which show its GPU charred to a crisp. Hopefully this is not a standard feature, but with the rumored power requirements, it seems quite possible.
 
HighTest said:
2Fresh, what did your card score before all of your $200 overclocking work? What was the jump, hmm?

Now take a card that gets what you have with your OC card at stock. Now spend the same $200 OC efforts on that new card.

What would you expect the result to be?
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Judging from how the high end 6800Us OC right now, it wouldnt be worth it.
 
Skrying said:
Judging from how the high end 6800Us OC right now, it wouldnt be worth it.
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The 6800 U's scored about 5xxx on stock. 7700 is a 1.5 x gain. Not bad since it's consistent with the 1.5 x gain in pipelines. Think about it... Also... the Radeons cards score better in 3dmark anyway. It's very interesting when some sites actually try 3dmark05 on different resolutions. The x850 xt pe and 6800 U are actually very very close to one another at 1600x1200.
 
Intel_Hydralisk said:
The 6800 U's scored about 5xxx on stock. 7700 is a 1.5 x gain. Not bad since it's consistent with the 1.5 x gain in pipelines. Think about it... Also... the Radeons cards score better in 3dmark anyway. It's very interesting when some sites actually try 3dmark05 on different resolutions. The x850 xt pe and 6800 U are actually very very close to one another at 1600x1200.
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A 6800U should be score more around 5500-6000 I would think.

My 6800nu scores around 4600 and its only unlocked and OC'd to 402/800 something. That memory is decently away from a 6800U, and my 6800nu is only coupled with a A64 2800+ at stock.
 
If i were to venture a guess. This is NVidias work at its best. They are putting this crippled core out there to fool ATi into thinking they won this round. And when these cards go retail, they will be much much better.

And I am an ATI !!!!!! and this is my take on it
 
USMC2Hard4U said:
If i were to venture a guess. This is NVidias work at its best. They are putting this crippled core out there to fool ATi into thinking they won this round. And when these cards go retail, they will be much much better.

And I am an ATI !!!!!! and this is my take on it
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thats what they did last time too. ATI thought it would be sitting pretty with the Pro at 12x1 when the U/GT was 8x2. along comes the NDA lift and release day... theyre both 16x1 and the Pro got its butt smacked after a few driver revisions.
 
USMC2Hard4U said:
If i were to venture a guess. This is NVidias work at its best. They are putting this crippled core out there to fool ATi into thinking they won this round. And when these cards go retail, they will be much much better.

And I am an ATI !!!!!! and this is my take on it
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Does anyone else find this idea hilarious? I'm pretty sure you're right, USMC, but its just funny that nVidia would do this. I love when businesses have fun.
 
Terra said:
Wouldn't help me..we got these nice Danish "electronic" taxes, that will be put on..and then the normal 25% tax on anything you by in Denmark...
Not to menting that the avarage tax rate in DK on you pay check is around 50%...

Terracide - Out with socialisme! :mad:
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LOL

I'll buy you a card here and ship it and mark the box's contents "Old Socks." I've shipped about a thousand dollars of stuff to Germany like that and never paid a dime in taxes...
 
lol, smart idea! :D
Just like putting all caps in the subject line of an e-mail will flag it as urgent on most networks :D
 
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