I'm going to keep my 6GB...I don't game with tons of other programs open so it should be fine...I just saw a lot of recommended system specs for games with 8GB requirements and was wondering if 8 was really that much different then 6...if memory prices get really cheap again then I'll probably upgrade to 12GB (3 x 4GB) just for kicks...then again with DDR4 coming out soon (next year?) I might just hold off until a full system upgrade with Haswell-E
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I'm going to keep my 6GB...I don't game with tons of other programs open so it should be fine...I just saw a lot of recommended system specs for games with 8GB requirements and was wondering if 8 was really that much different then 6...if memory prices get really cheap again then I'll probably upgrade to 12GB (3 x 4GB) just for kicks...then again with DDR4 coming out soon (next year?) I might just hold off until a full system upgrade with Haswell-E
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upgrading from 6 to 8 is silly, if you are going to upgrade up it to 16.
Great to hear you are going to wait until the next wave of hardware comes out. I sold all my stuff and just using a laptop now. So just waiting like most here for newer stuff to come out.
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The not beside the point was about only having a few browser tabs open. Just because you only want a few open doesn't mean everyone else is the same way.
As for encoding while playing a game, well, sure, why not. Some people do like to multi-task with their computers.
You might as well argue that few people need a quad-core or otherwise-strong CPU because the person could just do one task at a time instead.
You also might as well argue that I should be twiddling my thumbs right now while waiting for this hard drive cloning to finish before I do anything else with the computer. Who wants to do more than one thing at a time with a computer anyway?
Keep using unrealistic semantics to prove your point. Youll go far.
You might as well argue that few people need a quad-core or otherwise-strong CPU because the person could just do one task at a time instead.
You also might as well argue that I should be twiddling my thumbs right now while waiting for this hard drive cloning to finish before I do anything else with the computer. Who wants to do more than one thing at a time with a computer anyway?
multi-tasking is fine as long as you allocate your resources properly...having a ton of crap running in the background while playing BF4 is not smart...listening to music, having 10 browsers open is silly because you are not using them at the same time you are gaming...close the tabs and have them re-open next time you start up your browser...like I said- resource management
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I'm curious to know why people are so against extra ram? I very rarely see people so against someone buying a Titan or buying a high end i7. So if someone wants 8, 16, 32 and are happy with the performance what is wrong with that?
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Some info in case it helps, I have no wish to argue
I always leave my browser open - multiple instances, with anything up to 100 tabs and it doesnt interfere with gaming unless Windows internal resources get low after say a week of uptime.
(not low on hardware memory resources, but internal allocation of space that you dont get to play with).
But I run Noscript and Flashblock, so there is very little in the browser adding to CPU use and the memory footprint is reduced as well.
If you want to keep your browser open while gaming, these 2 tools are pretty good.
Before using them (years ago), the browser could cause momentary glitches and even pauses depending on what was open in the browser.
Opening a browser many times with blank pages isnt a good test as this doesnt use the same memory, resources or CPU.
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I always leave my browser open - multiple instances, with anything up to 100 tabs and it doesnt interfere with gaming unless Windows internal resources get low after say a week of uptime.
(not low on hardware memory resources, but internal allocation of space that you dont get to play with).
But I run Noscript and Flashblock, so there is very little in the browser adding to CPU use and the memory footprint is reduced as well.
If you want to keep your browser open while gaming, these 2 tools are pretty good.
Before using them (years ago), the browser could cause momentary glitches and even pauses depending on what was open in the browser.
Opening a browser many times with blank pages isnt a good test as this doesnt use the same memory, resources or CPU.
fyi
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Its not that we are against extra ram, its whether its worth upgrading.
Check the first post, the op wants to know if its worth upgrading from 6GB.
When asked the question, its polite to answer it.
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Probably just confirmation bias. There are certainly arguments to be had in terms of minimizing tasks but, if you want to and the system is capable, I figure make the computer run everything you want to all the time!
*Good point on "is it worth it?" though. For most people, probably not.
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Probably just confirmation bias. There are certainly arguments to be had in terms of minimizing tasks but, if you want to and the system is capable, I figure make the computer run everything you want to all the time!
*Good point on "is it worth it?" though. For most people, probably not.
Right. Sure, some people have no problems with 4gb and most games don't actually utilize that much ram. That saying that it's a placebo effect when games run better on more ram? Try running games with 1gb ram and tell me it's a placebo effect. That only applies to things that have no scientific proof of working. Ram definitely does work. And having more will improve your system.
The topic was over yesterday as the op gave his answer. Not even sure why people are still posting here now. Everyone seems to be beating a dead horse now when posting.
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Keep being an arrogant ass when someone disagrees with you.
You're the one who thinks gaming while encoding is some crazy thing that no one would ever want to do. Just because you don't want to do it doesn't mean someone else wouldn't want to.
Which is the "not smart" and "silly" part? The part where the person has to close all the other stuff they have open and then re-open it all later every time, or the part where they didn't want to spend $20 on four more gb so they could just leave it all open and use it whenever they want?
Who says I'm not using the browser tabs? If I want a browser open during a game, am I suppose to close my regular browser(s) with 50 or more tabs open so I can open one with only five tabs instead? Am I supposed to close the browser on my other monitor with four streaming video feeds because "no one needs to be watching four streaming video feeds while playing a game?"
Someone says they only play a game and have FRAPS running. If they wouldn't run FRAPS, they could get by on even less memory and less CPU power, and less hard drive space.
Encoding while playing a game was mentioned, as if such a thought is crazy. Part of my decision for what main CPU I currently have was based on the gaming-while-encoding tests a couple sites have done to see how good the CPUs are at true multi-tasking.
Some people buy AN ENTIRE EXTRA COMPUTER so they can encode separately from what they are normally doing.
1gb of memory is ok on Windows 7 if the person is doing simple things. The more stuff they do, the less lesser amounts of memory is enough. Like I said, even my SSD drive uses 1gb of memory for caching. And when I dropped to 4gb the other week, I was not happy with the performance. I didn't have to look at the resource monitor to know the 4gb was maxed out. "Placebo," indeed.
If someone wants to argue more than 4gb isn't necessary if you like to close other programs or don't multi-task much, great. But the arrogance and attacks in this thread based on "you're using your computer wrong" or "you don't need to do two things at once" are something else.
it's not that you're doing 'something wrong', it's that the people saying that they should be able to have 50 tabs open and do video encoding while playing a game are the same people complaining about poor performance in BF4 or other games...you can't have it both ways...most people don't need 16GB or 32GB because they realize that you can't reasonably expect to do everything at once and expect flawless performance
if you are one of those power users that needs to then go for it but it's not what most reasonable people do...and the point of this thread was for opinions on 6GB+ based on normal usage
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OGOC games while he encodes, can't figure out why games stutter.
You can have it both ways by having a strong CPU and enough memory.
If someone is complaining that 4gb and a lowly CPU doesn't cut it when having 50 tabs open or encoding or whatever while playing a game, yes, "they're doing it wrong" because their expectations for that level of parts is too high. But when people say oh it's just a placebo effect that the way you use your computer is helped with more memory or that "you're doing it wrong" because "no one needs that many browser tabs open" or "no one needs to encode while playing a game" is a pretty limited view on how people can use their computers.
Makes me think about an SSD thread where the person says their new SSD drive doesn't seem to help much. Then it turns out they have a fresh OS install and barely tax their computer. Well, yeah, no one needs a powerful computer if all they do is keep a barebones OS on there and only run one thing at a time. And no one needs a lot of memory if they close other things that use memory.
Correct. It's just people need to be take the particular person's usage into account instead of just saying "no one needs to...."
I didn't say that. But you continue to be an ass.
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He gets better hardware. Problem solved.
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Doubles ram, games still studder when encoding. Still cant figure it out.
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Another good thread shot to death by trolls.....
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