6800 vs 7600gs

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t3chyo888

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Ok i was looking @ new egg and i can get 2 7600gs 256mb cards for under $250 now would i get any big performance difference with them over my all ready slied 6800 nu. My 6800 are io/c and get better scores than my buddys evga 7800gt.will post 3d mark score later any info will help alot or if any one knows of a 6800 vs 7600gs bench,mark i woiuld love to see the web page
 
not an ati fan @ all will never buy an ati card unless they buy out nvidida and intel no longer makes on board graphics then i will get an ati card.
 
Just get a 7900GT, less complication than using 2 7600GS's in SLI, and fewer chances for problems.
 
ok questrion was whats better 2 6800nu or 2 7600gs card not get this card its better. just want some real benchmark scores comparing the 2
 
viperdv2k4 said:
why wouldnt you get an ati card? because you dont like ati? thats a really stupid answer. the x1800 xt is just a better card. it will perform better and have less problems. y wouldnt you get it?
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Becuz ATI is de sUx0rs, man! :rolleyes:

But to go back to being serious, if the OP is running budget cards in SLI, and then planning on scrapping them for two slightly newer budget cards in SLI, he's totally missing the boat anyway. A single high-end card, as has already been said here (like the x1800xt) will solidly beat two 7600GS cards, and open box ones are available for $200 at NewEgg at the moment. A 7800 or 7900GT is a better long-term investment too.

Look at it this way: Two 6800NU's in SLI probably cost $200 each new, or late in life, maybe $180 (to stretch it as fair as possible) for a total of $360. The OP is planning now on two 7600GS cards for a total of $250. That's a total of $610, and within a fairly short period of time (based on manufacturing cycle, probably about a year and a half). That kind of money would have purchased a 6800Ultra that would still be running today's games pretty darn well, and wouldn't have had near the power requirements either.

Personally, I think the upgrade is a silly idea, because its a very incremental upgrade. $250 will buy additional performance, but not performance worth the $250 spent. Purchase of a 7800GT, 7900GT, or X1800XT is a far better choice.

P.S. 3DMark measures nothing more than the size of one's e-genitals. Real games make the difference, and since the 6800 cards don't support HDR lighting or Shader Model 3.0, you'd have to turn them off on a Geforce 7 series card to get an accurate comparison.
 
LoneWolf said:
Becuz ATI is de sUx0rs, man! :rolleyes:

But to go back to being serious, if the OP is running budget cards in SLI, and then planning on scrapping them for two slightly newer budget cards in SLI, he's totally missing the boat anyway. A single high-end card, as has already been said here (like the x1800xt) will solidly beat two 7600GS cards, and open box ones are available for $200 at NewEgg at the moment. A 7800 or 7900GT is a better long-term investment too.

Look at it this way: Two 6800NU's in SLI probably cost $200 each new, or late in life, maybe $180 (to stretch it as fair as possible) for a total of $360. The OP is planning now on two 7600GS cards for a total of $250. That's a total of $610, and within a fairly short period of time (based on manufacturing cycle, probably about a year and a half). That kind of money would have purchased a 6800Ultra that would still be running today's games pretty darn well, and wouldn't have had near the power requirements either.

Personally, I think the upgrade is a silly idea, because its a very incremental upgrade. $250 will buy additional performance, but not performance worth the $250 spent. Purchase of a 7800GT, 7900GT, or X1800XT is a far better choice.

P.S. 3DMark measures nothing more than the size of one's e-genitals. Real games make the difference, and since the 6800 cards don't support HDR lighting or Shader Model 3.0, you'd have to turn them off on a Geforce 7 series card to get an accurate comparison.
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yah those single cards run like 250-350 depending on model, and maybe later he can get another one for SLI :) get the 7900gt. they are liike ~275 now for the base model.
 
LoneWolf said:
and since the 6800 cards don't support HDR lighting or Shader Model 3.0, you'd have to turn them off on a Geforce 7 series card to get an accurate comparison.
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6800 cards DO support shader model 3.0. Remember Far Cry? One of its later patches (1.3 I think?) unlocked a SM 3.0 option for the 6800. Also Chaos Theory supported SM3 for the 6800 when the 7800 wasnt even out yet :)


The NVIDIA GeForce 6 Series of GPUs provides a groundbreaking feature set for computing, including full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 for unparalleled gaming effects.
 
I wont buy an ati card as my case has the nvidia logo etched onto it. I want sli not a single card. I dont care if the 7800 7900 cards beat the 7600 and are only 25 bucks more. And i disagree with every saying a 7800gt is better than my cards i get better fps in every game against my buddys 7800gt
 
t3chyo888 said:
I wont buy an ati card as my case has the nvidia logo etched onto it. I want sli not a single card. I dont care if the 7800 7900 cards beat the 7600 and are only 25 bucks more. And i disagree with every saying a 7800gt is better than my cards i get better fps in every game against my buddys 7800gt
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Maybe your buddy has a slower setup overall. You cant just say, "Oh, well my moms P3 with the 7800 gs agp gets worse frames than my 5700LE in Doom 3" ....... Duh. I doubt that you two are running identical setups. Even if you two are running 1 gb ram, his might be slower, stuff like that matters. SLI doesnt mean it'll automatically "pwnt t3h n00bkakes mad cr4zy 101!!!!!!11" I'm really with everyone else. I'd grab a 7900 GT and plop another next to it when you get the money...... but if you just can't bear to live without the bragging rights to an SLI setup, then yes, 2x7600GS should give you a slight increase over your 6800's.
 
t3chyo888 said:
I wont buy an ati card as my case has the nvidia logo etched onto it.
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lol-- that is stupid.

Get over yourself and buy the 79gt to SLI later. You will not regret it.
 
ATIIsBetter said:
Maybe your buddy has a slower setup overall. You cant just say, "Oh, well my moms P3 with the 7800 gs agp gets worse frames than my 5700LE in Doom 3" ....... Duh. I doubt that you two are running identical setups. Even if you two are running 1 gb ram, his might be slower, stuff like that matters. SLI doesnt mean it'll automatically "pwnt t3h n00bkakes mad cr4zy 101!!!!!!11" I'm really with everyone else. I'd grab a 7900 GT and plop another next to it when you get the money...... but if you just can't bear to live without the bragging rights to an SLI setup, then yes, 2x7600GS should give you a slight increase over your 6800's.
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Nope he has an x2 3800 anmd 2 gigs of ram compared to my amd 3400+ 939 and 1 gig memory
 
t3chyo888 said:
I wont buy an ati card as my case has the nvidia logo etched onto it. I want sli not a single card. I dont care if the 7800 7900 cards beat the 7600 and are only 25 bucks more. And i disagree with every saying a 7800gt is better than my cards i get better fps in every game against my buddys 7800gt
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It must be dark in there, what with all the doors to your mind being closed.

I'm curious...why did you ask a question if you didn't plan on listening to the answers?
 
I doublt a X1800XT will be faster than 2 7600s in SLi. They would be close but I think 7600s would be faster. I agree with a previous poster though and suggest you just go with 1 7900GT for now $299.99 or so and then a 2nd one later.
 
t3chyo888 said:
I wont buy an ati card as my case has the nvidia logo etched onto it.
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God that's siggable. BTW, I blew the heat spreader off my CPU by taking the stock heatsink/fan out, since my case says "Cooler Master" on it. Smartest thing I ever did.

Dude, just buy whatever you want, as you're obviously not interested in any thoughts except the ones that reinforce your pre-made decision. Or buy an X1800XT, and use this stencil...

NVIDIA GEE-FORCE 7XXX WHOOP-ASS BETTER-THAN-ATI CARD!!!111!!!
...to cover up the ATI logo. Then just don't let your friends see your driver control panel, and you're all set!
 
Be nice, please...

He clearly is not asking about ATI. The OP only asked how big a benefit he would get SLI'ing two 7600s over his 6800s. He did not ask for an ATI or NVIDIA reccommendation, and he obviously cannot do crossfire on his motherboard. He wants two graphics cards, and therefore, must have SLI or get a new mobo. So can anyone actually answer his question, or is everyone going to keep screaming about which company they think is better? :mad:
 
Well, people have answered his question, and he's crying about not getting the answer he wants. People have gone out of their way to help him out.

Here, for God's sake, this is a review of an XFX factory-OCd 7600GS against several Nvidia and ATI cards. Looks like the 6800GS SLI throws a whoopin' on SLI'd 7600GS's. The 7600GS has 128 bit memory interface, compared to 256 bit on the vanilla 6800. A 7600GT nearly doubles a single 7600GS nearly across the board, and the 7600GS gets owned by almost everything when AA/AF are turned on. Not to mention, the 7600GTs can be had here for less than this 6800GS, which also owns the 7600GS.

I'm sure he'll still be pissed off that the vanilla 6800 isn't reviewed in that link, but that's tough. He can do his own research. See if he can dig up a comparison review of the Voodoo 2 vs. a 9800 Pro while he's at it; he's essentially asking for the same thing, anyway.

A 7600GS SLI would be a downgrade for the OP. Now when he doesn't listen to me and buys 'em anyway, he's got one less person to bitch at.
 
So the original intent was to see if 2x7600gs is better than 2x6800nu merely b/c its the only "affordable" SLI option? I don't understand...
 
xtasyindecay said:
So the original intent was to see if 2x7600gs is better than 2x6800nu merely b/c its the only "affordable" SLI option? I don't understand...
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I found a good deal on 2 7600gs cards i allready have 2 6800nu cards was curious to see if the 2 7600gs would make an improvment over my 6800s.
 
I dont think the improvements are worth it man. And what you have is plenty powerful for today's games.

But if you're bent on buying something from Nvidia of course, buy a strong single card and set yourself up for later upgrading as neccessary.

glhf
 
Buy a 7900gt

Sell your 6800 then save enough to buy another 7900 if you must have an SLI setup.
 
t3chyo888 said:
not an ati fan @ all will never buy an ati card unless they buy out nvidida and intel no longer makes on board graphics then i will get an ati card.
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I really can't beleive ppl will buy an inferior product because it has the right badge.

Sad really.
 
Why is it sad that i wont buy and ati card i have my reason for not liking ati. Ive been with nvidia since the 32mb tnt2 same way my dads first car in 1970's was a chevy and that all he has ever gotten. Eveyone has there own preferences in what they buy my personal one is i love nvidia and have not said one bad thing about ati im just not a fan of ati cards.
 
Well you have to see it from the perspective of preformance gains + cost. If I was really good with Catalyst drivers and tweaking or was willing to learn how to deal with the possibility of ATI's driver issues AND wanting AA + HDR in Oblivion, I would go with ATI.

If i wanted a deal, good graphics, and solid driver support, I would go with NVIDIA.

It's not unreasonable to swtich back and forth, but (for instance) to blindly stick with INTEL, when an AMD chip is cheaper, faster, and better in games is not logical.
 
Talk about being close-minded...

ATI sucks? lol... what a joke. Why don't you see how freakin' well the IQ and performance is.

First of all, if you're spending only $200-250, why would you go SLI... it's a waste of money to upgrade from SLI 6800 to SLI 7600GS... if anything, do 7600GT SLI.
 
Getting the topic back to the question from the OP.

I personally own a 7600GS, the MSI NX7600GS-T2D256EH that has the passive heatsink/heatpipe solution on board. These can be had for around $115.00 per card (mine with shipping was $119.00 all together).

What's important to note, is that these cards ship at stock speeds of 400/400 (400Mhz Core and 400MHz DDR2 Memory). At these speeds the card was a worthwhile upgrade from my previous 6600GT primary due to the noiseless operation, so this card is a no-brainer for someone building an HTPC setup.

But at stock the SLI performance in Oblivion for example would be about that of a single 7600GT, so a single 7600GT would be a better bet.

Where this model changes is doing OC'ing. For example, still using my passive heatsink, I clocked the core up to 500Mhz and the memory to 425MHz without any problems nor significant temp increases. This now stomps the performance of my previous 6600GT and get's me closer to a GT without spending anything further. The only difference between the 7600GS and the GT is the memory on the board. If one is lucky enough to clock the memory high enough, one will have real close to GT performance. The 7600GS with sufficient cooling will clock the core to GT speeds.
But without spending $40.00 on a Zalman cooling solution, you'll not clock much higher than I had before. In addition when you add on the cost of the cooler, you are at 7600GT prices. Get the 7600GT instead.

So if you want a silent solution, then the GS makes since. A passively cooled card with more performance than a 6600GT, that's an HTPC builders dream. For an SLI gamer, you'll want something else, unless you already own a 7600GS. "IF" you get a good overclocker and pair it with another good overclocker then you'll get great SLI performance.
 
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