silent-circuit
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Now the question is, keep the Sony 830C or swap it for a Samsung U6500 of similar size and pick up a PS4 with the difference in cash. Should I be looking at Vizio's M series despite their lack of 4:4:4 chroma support?
Also, am I better off with my current CPU/mobo/RAM and 980TI SLI, or should I return one of the 980TIs and get a new CPU/mobo/RAM that will give more PCIe lanes, etc?
Returned the Sharp for a much more expensive Sony 830C (from $500 to $800) and while the input lag is /better/ it's still not great. Very fast at 1080P, not so good at 4k. I suspect this is my GPU's fault, but won't be able to test that until Wednesday when my new GPUs are supposed to show up in the mail.
At this point I'm not certain if 4:4:4 chroma is worth the price and input lag premium it seems it will cost me. Vizio's M series seem to have better picture quality in "tv mode", lower or similar input lag, lower cost ($500 or so vs. $800 for the Sony, which would let me pick up a PS4 or something)... I'm just giving up 4:4:4 at 60Hz for PC use. Not sure if that's worth it or not.
After a lot of looking around I'm currently considering the following:
1. 40" Phillips (VA panel) for $800
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/philips...lack/6228127.p?id=1219659963680&skuId=6228127
2. 40" Samsung for $700-$1100 depending on the model, 6400/6500 or 7100
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung/4687001.p?id=1219637477260&skuId=4687001
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...lack/3953157.p?id=1219609307257&skuId=3953157
3. 32" BenQ (IPS) for $950 (really more than I want to spend, especially for the size, but figured I should include a "proper" monitor in the list)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/benq-32...lack/4058193.p?id=1219627854098&skuId=4058193
4. 40" Wasabi Mango AH-IPS (LG panel) Korean-built Ebay special for ~$700
All but the Samsungs have Displayport 1.2, so that's a tick against the Samsungs -- they're HDMI 2.0 only. I'll have a 980 or 980ti so I'll have HDMI 2.0, but I like flexibility. I also think they have higher input lag than the other options, and this worries me a lot. The Sharp 4K (LC-43UB30U 43") I got to play around with hoping I could "make it work" has terrible input lag even in "game" mode, to the point it's being returned for that reason alone -- I'm fairly happy with the color/contrast/picture, but I can't handle the delay.
The up-sides of the Samsungs are better contrast in "movie" mode (I don't own a TV so would use this panel for watching movies in addition to PC stuff) and local availability. The other displays I'd be waiting a week or more on shipping, and I'm impatient.
That said, I'll be getting new GPUs as well, and those I'll have to wait for, so a week isn't /that/ big a deal. The Samsungs also has the advantage of better over-all quality control than BenQ from what I've read, and the fact that I could go exchange easily if I did get one with bad light bleed or uniformity issues.
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what all is different between the Samsung 40" 6400/6500/7100 models to warrant the $300 or so price difference, and will be asking about that on AVSforum and elsewhere, but AVSforum scares the hell out of me so if someone here knows please just tell me. My understanding from the threads here is you can get 4K@60Hz 4:4:4 Chroma from a Geforce 980/980ti with the 6500?
The Phillips gets fairly good reviews and isn't the /most/ expensive, and I did like the last VA panel I had for blacks, but ghosting and response time was a problem (granted this was years and years ago) and I'm really spoiled by the current Planar PX2611w 26" 1920x1200 IPS display in that respect -- almost no input lag and fairly good response time, very little ghosting.
Been reading for days. Still don't know what to do.
TL/DR:
Potential Samsung input lag / response time issues worry me, but I dunno. BenQ costs too much? Phillips... I dunno but it seems a good option. Wasabi Mango... would really rather buy something I can return easily if I hate it. Halp.
Now the question is, keep the Sony 830C or swap it for a Samsung U6500 of similar size and pick up a PS4 with the difference in cash. Should I be looking at Vizio's M series despite their lack of 4:4:4 chroma support?
Also, am I better off with my current CPU/mobo/RAM and 980TI SLI, or should I return one of the 980TIs and get a new CPU/mobo/RAM that will give more PCIe lanes, etc?
Returned the Sharp for a much more expensive Sony 830C (from $500 to $800) and while the input lag is /better/ it's still not great. Very fast at 1080P, not so good at 4k. I suspect this is my GPU's fault, but won't be able to test that until Wednesday when my new GPUs are supposed to show up in the mail.
At this point I'm not certain if 4:4:4 chroma is worth the price and input lag premium it seems it will cost me. Vizio's M series seem to have better picture quality in "tv mode", lower or similar input lag, lower cost ($500 or so vs. $800 for the Sony, which would let me pick up a PS4 or something)... I'm just giving up 4:4:4 at 60Hz for PC use. Not sure if that's worth it or not.
After a lot of looking around I'm currently considering the following:
1. 40" Phillips (VA panel) for $800
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/philips...lack/6228127.p?id=1219659963680&skuId=6228127
2. 40" Samsung for $700-$1100 depending on the model, 6400/6500 or 7100
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung/4687001.p?id=1219637477260&skuId=4687001
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...lack/3953157.p?id=1219609307257&skuId=3953157
3. 32" BenQ (IPS) for $950 (really more than I want to spend, especially for the size, but figured I should include a "proper" monitor in the list)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/benq-32...lack/4058193.p?id=1219627854098&skuId=4058193
4. 40" Wasabi Mango AH-IPS (LG panel) Korean-built Ebay special for ~$700
All but the Samsungs have Displayport 1.2, so that's a tick against the Samsungs -- they're HDMI 2.0 only. I'll have a 980 or 980ti so I'll have HDMI 2.0, but I like flexibility. I also think they have higher input lag than the other options, and this worries me a lot. The Sharp 4K (LC-43UB30U 43") I got to play around with hoping I could "make it work" has terrible input lag even in "game" mode, to the point it's being returned for that reason alone -- I'm fairly happy with the color/contrast/picture, but I can't handle the delay.
The up-sides of the Samsungs are better contrast in "movie" mode (I don't own a TV so would use this panel for watching movies in addition to PC stuff) and local availability. The other displays I'd be waiting a week or more on shipping, and I'm impatient.
That said, I'll be getting new GPUs as well, and those I'll have to wait for, so a week isn't /that/ big a deal. The Samsungs also has the advantage of better over-all quality control than BenQ from what I've read, and the fact that I could go exchange easily if I did get one with bad light bleed or uniformity issues.
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what all is different between the Samsung 40" 6400/6500/7100 models to warrant the $300 or so price difference, and will be asking about that on AVSforum and elsewhere, but AVSforum scares the hell out of me so if someone here knows please just tell me. My understanding from the threads here is you can get 4K@60Hz 4:4:4 Chroma from a Geforce 980/980ti with the 6500?
The Phillips gets fairly good reviews and isn't the /most/ expensive, and I did like the last VA panel I had for blacks, but ghosting and response time was a problem (granted this was years and years ago) and I'm really spoiled by the current Planar PX2611w 26" 1920x1200 IPS display in that respect -- almost no input lag and fairly good response time, very little ghosting.
Been reading for days. Still don't know what to do.
TL/DR:
Potential Samsung input lag / response time issues worry me, but I dunno. BenQ costs too much? Phillips... I dunno but it seems a good option. Wasabi Mango... would really rather buy something I can return easily if I hate it. Halp.
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