4870x2 reviews beating gtx280 sli

I've pretty much stayed with nvidia from the 7800gtx and up. It wasn't until the 4800 series did I start looking at ATI's offerings. Competition is finally there. Nvidia will answer, it's just a matter of time.
 
ATI's 4000 series ftw..hands down. Who is this Nvidia I keep hearing about? Do they make graphics cards to?
 
Hey everybody just wondering if i need to upgrade anything before i pull the plug on a new 4870x2 here are my specs:
p182 case
raptors 150gb *2
6600 quad oc'd to 3.2
zerotherm nirvana nv 120 120mm ball bearing fan
4 gigs ocz 1066 memory
asus p5e lga 775 intel motherboard
seasonic s12 energy plus 550w power supply
vista 64 bit
benq 24' lcd
 
Yah, I'm starting to look at 30" monitors myself to flex the 4870x2s muscle. Any recommendations?
 
I just got done ordering the Dell. Not sure if I'll need a Spyder hardware calibrator yet though.
 
Dan_D said:
As I understand it the 3008WFP has tons of input lag. That's what I've heard anyway. I haven't used one myself so take that with a grain of salt.
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This is the thing I'm trying to track down. I haven't seen it mentioned in the reviews I've come across but that seems to be the word on the street. I need to talk to someone with the monitor.

Kowan please share your experience when you get setup if you can!;)
 
I will. I was looking for the same and trying to decide between the Gateway XHD3000 and it.
During searching, I saw posts of people having scaling/resolution choice problems on the GW. Vista saw it as a pnp monitor and when asking for drivers, they were told monitors don't need drivers in Vista. They tried hacking the inf file but no luck. At least on the threads I found.
Dell has drivers for the 3008. :)
 
30" LCD, one of the best things you can buy....

I went w/ the Gateway, personally, I don't think you can go wrong w/ any 30" LCD....gaming @ 2560x1600 is a whole new gaming experience
 
You aren't using the speaker bar are you yang88she? That would have to go if I had decided on the Gateway. :p
 
Dan_D said:
As I understand it the 3008WFP has tons of input lag. That's what I've heard anyway. I haven't used one myself so take that with a grain of salt.
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But the 3008 has an S-IPS panel which is one of the finest of today. AFAIK these shouldn't suffer from input lag like VA/TN-panels. My own dell 2007wfp is a giant leap from any TN-panel I've tested in terms of input lag. The use of overdrive is in those panels bothersome.
 
Nuker said:
But the 3008 has an S-IPS panel which is one of the finest of today. AFAIK these shouldn't suffer from input lag like VA/TN-panels. My own dell 2007wfp is a giant leap from any TN-panel I've tested in terms of input lag. The use of overdrive is in those panels bothersome.
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Well I'm no expert on LCD technology. However as I understand it S-IPS technology isn't necessarily immune to input lag. Mainly the use of hardware scalers causes this. Again this is what I've come to understand. Maybe Snowdog or someone else more knowledgible on the subject will chime in on this.
 
Kowan said:
You aren't using the speaker bar are you yang88she? That would have to go if I had decided on the Gateway. :p
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I am, it's nice that it can be controlled by the remote as well =P and no need to buy another set of speakers :D
 
Oh. :eek:
I already have a decent set with a remote. So while I was researching, was trying to see if anyone had removed it.
 
The problem here is, theres no point in buying 2 4870x2's as the drivers will never get as good as tri sli.

Im sure many will say crossfire can beat SLI or vice versa which is very true.

But Quad Fire and even Quad SLI sucks. Tri Sli is much better, and scales better also.

As anandtech stated- 3 gtx280's are still the "performance king" for however long ATM.
2 4870x2's are good but (youll mostly see decreased performance from the reviews ive seen , which is all of them pretty much) your better off just buying one.

Problem is people are comparing the 4870x2 to the gtx280. Which is ok- but when 8800 ultras came out everyone was quick on the gun to talk about pricing:
Well Im looking at NCIX.com right now and 4870x2's go for 615.00 and GTX280 goes for 419.00

Thats a 200 dollar difference.
Anyone care to explain why that doesnt matter now? LOL
 
Hi guys , i have question. How much is your average GPU score at vantage? mine is 13100


and some people said that they got around 15K , i was wondering what my problem could be?
 
btdvox said:
Problem is people are comparing the 4870x2 to the gtx280. Which is ok- but when 8800 ultras came out everyone was quick on the gun to talk about pricing:
Well Im looking at NCIX.com right now and 4870x2's go for 615.00 and GTX280 goes for 419.00

Thats a 200 dollar difference.
Anyone care to explain why that doesnt matter now? LOL
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It still matters; a single 280 is NOT enough for 2560x1600 gaming so you must buy 2x 280= $838 and maybe change to a SLI MOBO ( that are more than a notch inferior to X48 offers), but a single 4870X2 is enough for 30" owners, and runs in ANY MOBO.

so 4870X2 still cheaper than 280.:D When you add to it DX10.1 support the equation looks WAY more unbalanced.
 
If thats how you justify it lol.

Also I dont mind Nvidia motherboards, Overclocking on the new 790is give just as much performance as x48s.

Point being that its a GTX280 vs 4870x2, price has to account for something. No doubt peoeple should go for 4870x2 if they want a single card.
 
geok1ng said:
It still matters; a single 280 is NOT enough for 2560x1600 gaming so you must buy 2x 280= $838 and maybe change to a SLI MOBO ( that are more than a notch inferior to X48 offers), but a single 4870X2 is enough for 30" owners, and runs in ANY MOBO.

so 4870X2 still cheaper than 280.:D When you add to it DX10.1 support the equation looks WAY more unbalanced.
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How many games support DX10.1 again? :p

It all comes down to how much you want to spend. I think for a serious gamer, who wants to be able to game at 2560x1600, a 4870x2 is the minimum I'd suggest they buy. Yes, it can be done for less, but if your going to spend 1500$ on a monitor and not be willing to spend 550$ for a graphics card... well that just doesn't make sense to me. If you want more power, then your probably looking at 280s in SLI.
 
No doubt peoeple should go for 4870x2 if they want a single card.
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No doubt. It is amazing that we are seeing single card solutions being able to run a 2560x1600 display. Even if it is multi GPU solution, it is done very VERY well compared to the frankinstiens of the past.
 
RMXO said:
here is a link that shows tri 280 beating dual 4870 x2s

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=609&pageid=1

enjoy.
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A few things to keep in mind when reading this reading:

1. They are using highly overclocked XFX GTX 280 XXX edition, but reference 4870 X2
2. The XFX GTX 280 XXX is selling for $470 right now... x 3 = $1410. The 4870 X2 sells for $550 x 2 = $1100.
3. The 3 x GTX 280 take up 6 slots, 2 x 4870 X2 take 4 slots.
4. Total die size -> GTX 280 x 3 = 576 mm^2 x 3 = 1728 mm^2. 4870 X2 x 2 = 256 mm^2 x 4 = 1024 mm^2
 
also they were using some rather old ATi drivers from what I can recall from that article...

either way, those uber systems are beyond sickness...2xqx9770's....jaw drops
 
yang88she said:
also they were using some rather old ATi drivers from what I can recall from that article...

either way, those uber systems are beyond sickness...2xqx9770's....jaw drops
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Actually that system has dual QX9775's. The QX9770 is an LGA775 processor while the QX9775's are LGA771.
 
morfinx said:
A few things to keep in mind when reading this reading:
4. Total die size -> GTX 280 x 3 = 576 mm^2 x 3 = 1728 mm^2. 4870 X2 x 2 = 256 mm^2 x 4 = 1024 mm^2
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Yeah, total die size is definitely at the top of the specs I look at. :rolleyes:
 
Mega666 said:
Yeah, total die size is definitely at the top of the specs I look at. :rolleyes:
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It's relevant from both producer and consumer's point of view. I see it as production cost and profit margins; you'll see it as how far the price will be able to drop.
 
yang88she said:
didn't even realize they were 771's...wow
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The QX9770 and QX9775 are identical in virtually every way except the QX9770 is LGA775 and the QX9775 is LGA771. They have the same amount of cache memory and identical clock speeds and core design. Both are Yorkfield XE processors.
 
Dan_D said:
The QX9770 and QX9775 are identical in virtually every way except the QX9770 is LGA775 and the QX9775 is LGA771. They have the same amount of cache memory and identical clock speeds and core design. Both are Yorkfield XE processors.
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you forgot to mention, costs over 1400+ clams a piece :p
 
yang88she said:
My wife's 30th birthday is coming up, I don't think she will be ok w/ me adding one of those anytime soon:D
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Well the cost break down is even worse for the whole setup. $1500 for each CPU. You'll need two of those. $610 for the motherboard and some Crucial PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz FB-DIMMs will cost you about $270.00 for 4GB of them. (2x2GB)
 
Dan_D said:
Well the cost break down is even worse for the whole setup. $1500 for each CPU. You'll need two of those. $610 for the motherboard and some Crucial PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz FB-DIMMs will cost you about $270.00 for 4GB of them. (2x2GB)
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I'll leave it to the "motherboard editor" to run and test such a "dream system" :D

btw Dan, have ordered your 2nd x2 yet? Gonna try some AOC, CSS, maybe some Crysis tonight
 
yang88she said:
I'll leave it to the "motherboard editor" to run and test such a "dream system" :D

btw Dan, have ordered your 2nd x2 yet? Gonna try some AOC, CSS, maybe some Crysis tonight
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I haven't ordered a second 4870 X2 yet. I'm debating that or another Geforce GTX 280 and 3-Way SLI.
 
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