3D Mark Score drops with newer CPU

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MoggSquad

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3dMark 2k5

2500xp / 6800gt - 4772 score
2500@ 3200xp / 6800gt - 4864 score
athlon 64 3400 / 6800gt - 4700 score

All using 1gb pc3200 ram, 120gb sata hard drive.

What gives? I know 3dmark is generally a videocard benchmark, but how can the score drop when upgrading to a athlon 64 3400 vs a barton 2500/3200?

Plus the 3400 chip is on a freshly formatted hard drive using Nvidia's latest drivers. What's a good benchmark to test my cpu?
 
CPU score from 3dmark 2k5 from the 3400 / 6800gt
CPU test score: 3536
cpu test 1: 1.9 fps
cpu test 2: 3.0 fps
 
It doesn't really matter what your 3DMark scores are as long as you notice a performance gain in actual games.
 
I used to love and live by 3DMark but now its like the worst thing to go by when it comes to perfromance. Id say just make sure all your settings are correct in bios. No AA and AF turned on and run some games with FRAPS instead of synthetic benchmarks.
 
MoggSquad said:
CPU score from 3dmark 2k5 from the 3400 / 6800gt
CPU test score: 3536
cpu test 1: 1.9 fps
cpu test 2: 3.0 fps
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something's wrong there. my stock 3200+ clawhammer gets around 4500 cpu marks...

cah you get cpu-z and tell us what clock speed the cpu is running at, and the ram speed and timings too?
http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php
 
My guess is you are missing something in the ram configuration of the BIOS.
 
for '01, make sure ram is running at a 1T command rate on the 3400+, you should be way over 20k, I get ~25,600 with a s754 3700+ (2.4GHz, 1MB L2 Cache)...... something is definately wrong there, also make sure cool&quiet is disabled in the BIOS and the driver is not loaded in Windows, sounds like proc. is throttling back......
 
Here are screenshots from cpu-z. All mem settings on my mobo are set to auto. I have 2x 512mb of corsair value select pc3200 ram in slots 1 and 2, as per recommendation of mobo manual. Also, my agp aperture size is set to 128mb by default but am using a 256mb card. Should it be set to 256? Im using a chaintech vnf3-250 mobo.

http://www.regionofdoomforum.com/Upload/userfiles/MoggSquad/CPU01.JPG

http://www.regionofdoomforum.com/Upload/userfiles/MoggSquad/cpu02.JPG

http://www.regionofdoomforum.com/Upload/userfiles/MoggSquad/cpu03.JPG

http://www.regionofdoomforum.com/Upload/userfiles/MoggSquad/cpu04.JPG

http://www.regionofdoomforum.com/Upload/userfiles/MoggSquad/cpu05.JPG
 
Did you install the chipset drivers?

Also, what the hell is up with those RAM timings?
 
Yeah, I used the disc that came with the board. Not sure about the RAM either, all the settings are set to auto. What can I do to make things normal?
 
i'm fairly certain that the corsair VS should be running at 2.5-3-3, not 3-4-4 ;)

also.. that looks right. do a fresh install of drivers (both chipset and video) and make sure you have no spyware/virii on your computer. :p
 
I reinstalled chipset and graphics drivers, same thing....

If I change it to 2.5-3-3 should everything be fine? Why does it show a frequency of both 166 and 200mhz in spd timing table?

Also is my agp aperture fine set at 128mb (default) or should it be 256 since I have a Geforce 6800gt ?

Here are some memory settings in my board, what should they be set to...

max mem clock mhz
- auto/100/133/166
1t/2t mem timing
- auto/1t/2t
cas# latency (TCL)
- auto/2.0/2.5/3.0
ras# to cas# delay (TRCD)
- auto/2/3/4/5/6/7
min ras# active time (TRAS)
-auto/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15
row precharge time (TRP)
- auto 2/3/4/5/6
DDR Skew Fine Tune
- disable/enable
 
Ok, but why is there no option for 200mhz in max mem clock?

options are auto/100/133/166.... this is weak. I installed the chipset drivers, wtf.
 
Also is my agp aperture fine set at 128mb (default) or should it be 256 since I have a Geforce 6800gt ?
 
I changed the mem settings that blinkme recommended with the exception of memclock which was left as "auto" since there is no 200mhz option. Both chips show the following for mem timings...

http://www.regionofdoomforum.com/Up...Squad/cpu04.JPG

3dmark 2k1 still only scored 18,200

I also reseated the memory on my board. This time they are in slots 1 and 3 which is fine according to the manual.
 
Your agp aperture is fine. What is your mobo? Maybe the newest drivers and bios will help.
 
Chaintech VNF3-250. I just flashed the BIOS from the 10/21/2004 version to the latest 03/21/2005. No dice yet.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
i'm fairly certain that the corsair VS should be running at 2.5-3-3, not 3-4-4 ;)

also.. that looks right. do a fresh install of drivers (both chipset and video) and make sure you have no spyware/virii on your computer. :p
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I think there are two different types of Corsair VS memory. One is Cas 2.5, the other is Cas 3.
 
I'm almost certain I bought the 2.5 cas. I'd say 90% sure.

So is it the consensus for this thread that something is wrong with my board settings that is causing poor performance?
 
I have no clue then. Try starting over from scratch. Your 3dmark should be about 10000 higher.
 
I was on a chaintech forum and the consensus seems to be the bios I'm using. I went from 10/21/04 to 03/21/05 but it seems the bios from 07/21/04 on the vnf3-250 is absolute best for gaming. I'm going to flash it when I get home tonight and see what happens.

Thanks y'all
 
MoggSquad said:
I was on a chaintech forum and the consensus seems to be the bios I'm using. I went from 10/21/04 to 03/21/05 but it seems the bios from 07/21/04 on the vnf3-250 is absolute best for gaming. I'm going to flash it when I get home tonight and see what happens.
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make sure to load optimized defaults for the bios after flashing! ^_^
 
I flashed to the 07/21/04 bios last night and loaded optimized default settings, then adjusted my ram settings. My 3dmark 2k1 went from 18,220 to 22,203 and 3dmark2k5 went from 4659 to 4900. The cpu score went from 3500 to 4237. Not great jumps, but the most important thing is the performance in Battlefield 2.

I play with the high settings and get around 95 fps in a 32 player game. The 3d mark scores probably arnt at the best potential, but im very pleased with the actual performance in BF2, something i didnt originally have,, thanks a lot everyone for all your help. :p
 
MoggSquad said:
The cpu score went from 3500 to 4237
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much better, though there's still some room for improvement :D


max mem clock mhz [/B]
- auto/100/133/166 no 200 setting?
1t/2t mem timing
- auto/1t/2t force 1T
cas# latency (TCL)
- auto/2.0/2.5/3.0 for this and the next 3 values, check with the ram mfg for rated timings if you don't know it.. most people list the timings like 2.5-3-3-8, that's Tcl - Trcd - Trp - Tras
ras# to cas# delay (TRCD)
- auto/2/3/4/5/6/7
min ras# active time (TRAS)
-auto/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15
row precharge time (TRP)
- auto 2/3/4/5/6
DDR Skew Fine Tune
- disable/enable
 
Format on the new install? I hit 5000 Points with my Barton 2.5ghz and 6800 Unlocked/Overclocked.
 
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