34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

turbineseaplane said:
Man am I having a hard time deciding.

The display wars comparison really just show that its an aspect ratio change and not really a "what you can see" change.

But maybe wider is better than taller...hmmm

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For gaming purposes, Ive used a 30" for years and I really like the 34" 21:9 screen for gaming.

For general messing around, the width of the the 34" is very noticeable whereas I dont notice I am missing the height or 160 pixels at all!

Coming from many different monitors including a 30", this new 34" is by far my favorite!
 
anonuser said:
Very interested in your results. I only really play LoL right now and have an old video card. Will need to upgrade, but I don't want to drop a lot if I don't have to as prices will come down soon.
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I think you should get the monitor, check the performance and then decide. Don't upgrade in anticipation because you may overspend :)
 
Kryckter said:
For gaming purposes, Ive used a 30" for years and I really like the 34" 21:9 screen for gaming.

For general messing around, the width of the the 34" is very noticeable whereas I dont notice I am missing the height or 160 pixels at all!

Coming from many different monitors including a 30", this new 34" is by far my favorite!
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Good to hear! Thank you for the thoughts.

I appear to have plenty of time to mull it over as Amazon is quoting me a delivery in the first week of June. Bummer.
 
AgentQ said:
Even then, it's not going to be comfortable to use in portrait mode unless you're sitting relatively far from the monitor.
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Why not? I've got a Dell 24" I use in portrait mode - mainly for web forums ATM! But also for documents.

Keep in mind that the monitor is over two and a half feet wide. That would make for a crazy tall monitor in portrait mode.
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Actually, I am fearing the width may be the issue.
 
For those that have the monitor already how far back are you sitting? I'm in the process of choosing desk/table to sit this thing on and I want to make sure I have the space. Still waiting for it to come into stock @ $999 somewhere. Amazon charges tax in FL now so I wont go with them. NE or somewhere else. :)
 
Skott said:
For those that have the monitor already how far back are you sitting? I'm in the process of choosing desk/table to sit this thing on and I want to make sure I have the space. Still waiting for it to come into stock @ $999 somewhere. Amazon charges tax in FL now so I wont go with them. NE or somewhere else. :)
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I'm waiting for Tiger Direct to get them in stock so I can walk it back if I get a bad panel.
No more Amazon for big ticket stuff in FL and I don't like Newegg's monitor policy.

B&H is a better online option. I buy camera supplies from them.
 
WorldExclusive said:
I'm waiting for Tiger Direct to get them in stock so I can walk it back if I get a bad panel.
No more Amazon for big ticket stuff in FL and I don't like Newegg's monitor policy.

B&H is a better online option. I buy camera supplies from them.
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Yeah, I saw the B&H offer but they too were on back order. I wish my local TD/CompUSA store gets them in. I'd love to buy it from a B&M shop. Oh, well. The hunt continues. :D
 
Hello All,

I have a dell wfp3008, and if anyone has had one, they will know it gets HOT

Can anyone let me know if this runs cooler?
 
marktruman said:
Hello All,

I have a dell wfp3008, and if anyone has had one, they will know it gets HOT

Can anyone let me know if this runs cooler?
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I'm coming from a 3008WFP but probably won't get mine until end of this month according to Amazon.

I'd imagine it will run a lot cooler though as this is an LED backlight, our 3008WFP is CCFL which sucks way more power.
 
x3sphere said:
I'm coming from a 3008WFP but probably won't get mine until end of this month according to Amazon.

I'd imagine it will run a lot cooler though as this is an LED backlight, our 3008WFP is CCFL which sucks way more power.
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Yes, I always thought it was my pc making my room hot in summer

turns out the monitor is so hot to touch
 
So if i decide to go with the lg34 over the benq 32
I will be missing out on the flicker free and the low blu light for comfort to the eays.
 
Quartz-1 said:
Why not? I've got a Dell 24" I use in portrait mode - mainly for web forums ATM! But also for documents.

Actually, I am fearing the width may be the issue.
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I also have a 24" 1920x1200 Dell that I use in portrait mode some times. But a 24" 16:10 monitor is only 20.4 inches wide (or tall in portrait mode). This 34" 21:9 monitor is 31.5 inches wide (tall).

Take your current 24" monitor in portrait mode and imagine it being over 50% taller. Either you're going to have to sit back farther, or your neck is going to get a workout.
 
I meausered that displaywars image that has been shown lately.
Using grid cells 40px x 40px each,
and using 1600 high as the frame of reference = 40cells high (40x40 = 1600)

16:10 displaywars image:
40 cells high = 40px x 40 = 1600 high
72 cell wide = 40px x 72 = 2880 wide (not 2560x, )
-therefore the ratio in this "16:10" graphic is wrong, showing +320 width

The 3440x1440 part of the graphic shows
88 cell wide = 40px x 88cells = 3520 wide (+80 pixels wider than 3440)
34 cells high = 40px x 34 cells = 1360 high instead of 1440 high (-80 pixels shorter than 1440)

These displaywars ratios are being shown wrong from my calculations in regard to actual screen size ratios (not including monitor housings).

Displaywars graphic with grid overlay:
http://www.web-cyb.org/images/lcds/21x9_vs_16x10_displaywars-wrong_GRID.jpg

The graphic I made and measured myself with grid overlay:
http://www.web-cyb.org/images/lcds/4k_21x9_27in_30in_same-ppi_GRID-sizing.jpg

I know mine is right. I'll double check the displaywars one later but it definitely looks off.
 
elvn said:
I meausered that displaywars image that has been shown lately.
Using grid cells 40px x 40px each,
and using 1600 high as the frame of reference = 40cells high (40x40 = 1600)

16:10 displaywars image:
40 cells high = 40px x 40 = 1600 high
72 cell wide = 40px x 72 = 2880 wide (not 2560x, )
-therefore the ratio in this "16:10" graphic is wrong, showing +320 width

The 3440x1440 part of the graphic shows
88 cell wide = 40px x 88cells = 3520 wide (+80 pixels wider than 3440)
34 cells high = 40px x 34 cells = 1360 high instead of 1440 high (-80 pixels shorter than 1440)

These displaywars ratios are being shown wrong from my calculations in regard to actual screen size ratios (not including monitor housings).

Displaywars graphic with grid overlay:
http://www.web-cyb.org/images/lcds/21x9_vs_16x10_displaywars-wrong_GRID.jpg

The graphic I made and measured myself with grid overlay:
http://www.web-cyb.org/images/lcds/4k_21x9_27in_30in_same-ppi_GRID-sizing.jpg
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They don't draw an image of the monitor resolution. Instead it is a drawing of th physical display area. Physical area and resolution can differ.

If you divide 31,25inch by 13,39 inch (the display dimensions calculated for the 34"21:9 model by displaywars.com) you get 2,3338312173263629574309185959671
But if you divide 2560 by 1080 for example then you get 2,3703703703703703703703703703704
And 21 divided by 9 is 2,33333333333333333333333333333333
So there is the difference in aspect ratio.

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Is it too late already at 1:30 am or is the following calculation correct?

Displaywars shows 31.25 inches width and 13.39 inches height for the 34" 21:9 Monitor.
Now I want to calculate it on my own:

34*34 = 1156 (pythagoras)
1156=21²+9²
21²+9²=522
1156/522=2,2146
2,2146*21²=976,62
sqrt(976,62)=31,25 inch

2,2146*9²=179,38
sqrt(179,38)=13,39 inch
 
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I am so cunfused your saying there might be more viewing area on a 34 inch or the same as the 32
 
rematched the grid on the displaywars version more accurately.. It's still off but not by as wide as I thought on the 2560x1600 16:10. The 16:10 is slightly wider than it should be, and the 21:9 is smaller.

I do understand that my measure is the actual desktop real-estate pixel wise, and that displays can be different sized pixels in reality.. but they also can be different sized to your perspective depending on your view distance too. However, their ratio's should match to themselves and each other based on one's height. I used 16:10's 1600 high for the baseline measurement of the grid cells for the :10 ratio and set the grid cells to 40x40 each. Anyway, trying this again...

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I measured that displaywars image that has been shown lately.
Using grid cells 40px x 40px each,
and using 1600 high as the frame of reference = 40cells high (40x40 = 1600)

16:10 displawars image:
40 cells high = 40px x 40 = 1600 high
65 cell wide = 40px x 65 = 2600 wide (not 2560x)
-therefore the ratio in this "16:10" graphic is off slightly, showing +50 width

The 3440x1440 part of the graphic shows
80 cell wide = 40px x 80cells = 3200 wide (-240 pixels narrower than 3440 at the same ppi as the 16:10 monitor)
34 cells high = 40px x 34 cells = 1360 high instead of 1440 high (-80 pixels shorter than 1440 at the same ppi as the 16:10 monitor)
This is still close to 21:9 but desktop real-estate to desktop real-estate comparison of the 2560x1600 to the 3440x1440 is way off.

21x9_vs_16x10_displaywars-wrong_GRID.jpg

4k_21x9_27in_30in_same-ppi_GRID-sizing.jpg

So you are seeing a false presentation of desktop real-estate differences anyway.
A 30" screen can give a false impression of the actual workspace gain because it's pixels are larger.
I guess that is what caught my eye and bugged me because I always compare pixel to pixel and actual desktop real-estate comparisons in my graphic.
web-cyb.org 4k_21x9_2560x-27in-and-30in_1080p_same-ppi.jpg
 
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Anyone bought this monitor on Amazon.de? If yes can you tell me who did you buy it from since there is so many of them and how long did it takes to get it?

I may order this monitor this week but i just need to find a cheap, fast delivery and good place to buy it from. At the moment I can get one in Danmark for about 1.070EU and its the only one who sell them so I guess its a Korean or US version. I wonder when we'll see a EU version.....actually I hope we'll hear more about the Dell version so hopefully the price on this Monitor will go down :p
 
The Dark Session said:
Somone can post a photo with a 27" ( i want to get a qnix) near a 34" ?
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Hmm. I am coming from a Dell U2711, and I sat maybe 27 inches away from that screen? But right now as I put it through its paces, I'm sitting closer to the U95... perhaps 23 inches away? I like the peripheral vision effect. :)

I think once I do productivity-ish things, I'll want to nudge it back a bit. :)
 
Ohh you missunderstood me :) , i will put a qnix near the 34UM95 as a side monitor, but im not sure how it looks height wise.
 
The display-wars ratios are correct, my first run had the grid mismatched and I thought it was off more than it was, sorry.

The impression that the 30"'s physical size gives of desktop real-estate vs the 3440x1440 is not 1:1: though so could give people a false impression of that "160 pixel height difference" being a lot greater than it actually is since the 30"'s pixels are a lot larger. At the same ppi vs viewing distance , matching the 2560x widths to your perspective, that +80px top and +80px bottom vs a 1440 height is only the diameter of a dime coin each desktop real-estate wise.

I prefer my graphic which shows the actual desktop real estate differences apples to apples, pixels 1:1 and desktop real-estate sizes based on 108.8 ppi. It shows how small a 1080p is (real-estate wise) at the same ppi for example even though you could have a 70"+tv.

The displaywars version does show physical size though which is useful if someone is trying to match up monitors physically at their desk or something.
 
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The prices of Amazon.de vary alot. I bought one 2 days ago for 949, this morning I saw a few for 920. I'm not too bothered with it, I just hope I don't have many issues as far as pixels and backlight bleeding goes, like everyone I guess. :D
 
Thanks! But I don't speak German.
I've checked out the site and they have an English version too. Hopefully the review will be in English as well.
 
Are we sure the Dell is even going to happen?

It's literally been radio silence for like 5 months on the Dell version hasn't it?
 
KashunatoR said:
Thanks! But I don't speak German.
I've checked out the site and they have an English version too. Hopefully the review will be in English as well.
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Prad does some top-notch reviews. Just use Google Translate on the review when it comes out and you'll get the gist of it.
 
I get a weird issue with my 34um95 when I do a cold boot. Its like the whole right half of the screen gets bells palsy, its strange, never seen a display do that before. If I turn the display off and back on it still does it, but if I completely reboot the computer the issue immediately goes away and the display is 100% fine. I have witness this phenomena about three times now and it only happens during a cold boot.

Also, it sounds like something is loose inside the monitor. Like a couple of screws are loose inside when I tilt the display....you can defiantly hear something rattling around inside and it does not sound normal. I noticed this immediately when I got & unpacked the display and was concerned that it was damaged during shipping, but with the exception of the cold boot issue, the display works perfectly. I guess I will wait it out a month or two and then maybe RMA it back to LG :mad:

On a side note Its pretty cool to be able to display pictures like this without black bars or image cropping compromises!

 
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turbineseaplane said:
Brutal. Especially since replacements are probably impossible to come by right now.
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Yea, Im gonna wait until after the ROG swifts are released...by that time it should be the year 2019 and LG should have plenty of stock to replace my display. Its a bummer because the display works perfectly once you get past the cold boot AND this display is perfect pixel and has next to zero BLB or IPS glow
 
DragonBlack888 said:
Anyone bought this monitor on Amazon.de? If yes can you tell me who did you buy it from since there is so many of them and how long did it takes to get it?

I may order this monitor this week but i just need to find a cheap, fast delivery and good place to buy it from. At the moment I can get one in Danmark for about 1.070EU and its the only one who sell them so I guess its a Korean or US version. I wonder when we'll see a EU version.....actually I hope we'll hear more about the Dell version so hopefully the price on this Monitor will go down :p
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I bought it from officepartner.de. 980 Euros incl shipping to Romania. Bought last Wednesday, delivered yesterday (damn weekend :) ).
 
Metro LL, on 670 gtx (not that bad for an old card) :):
Options: Resolution: 3440 x 1440; DirectX: DirectX 11; Quality: High; Texture filtering: AF 16X; Advanced PhysX: Enabled; Tesselation: Very High; Motion Blur: Normal; SSAA: OFF;
Run 0 (D6 )
Total Frames: 4328, Total Time: 171.1013 sec
Average Framerate: 25.33
Max. Framerate: 43.16 (Frame: 3598)
Min. Framerate: 10.66 (Frame: 3)
 
Skyrim on 670 gtx: 45-60 fps (max settings - no AA). I'll check Witcher 2 tonight when I get home.
 
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