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2P G34 Boxen

DSee

DSee

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Hello,

I'm building a 2p g34 boxen and need some assistance...

This is what I got so far:
Tyan S8230GM4NR
2x Opteron 6134
2x Dynatron A6
KINGWIN Lazer LZ-1000 1000W (Not the best, but got it for a GOOD price and it has 2x EPS12, required for the MOBO)

I'm looking at the board specifications, and it seems like this board requires ECC memory. (expensive)
Does anyone anyone know if I can disable it @ BIOS, or change something so I can use regular DDR3-1333/1600 mem sticks?

Thanks....
 
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edit: sorry, bad info from newegg.
 
Pick up a nice corsair in the 600 watt range (preferably on sale) and buy a $7 adapter for the 2nd power connector.

It is what most of us have done for our SR-2 boards (just with 750 watt PSUs to feed the hungry buggers)
 
Well, UDIMMs work fine on Quad G34 systems, so it's likely to work fine on a dual... I'm running high performance g.skill memory DDR3-1333 @ 6-7-5-1T (should work at 5-7-5, but there is a limitation, apparently in the BIOS preventing this).

DSee said:
I see.. Thanks a lot for the input.. I was reading some reviews and it says it needs to be ECC , but it doesn't matter if it's unbuffered/registered....

http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=MB&pid=665&SKU=600000170
U/RDDR3 & LV RDDR3, 800/1066/1333 MHz
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It will be interesting to see how those 8 core magny-cours fold.
 
Little update:

Our [H] fellow member R-Type has the same motherboard and was kind enough to clear the ECC/Non-ECC compatibility issue for me. It turns out memory does NOT have to be ECC. Thanks R-Type & pjkenned.

Now I need to find some cheap 80mm to 120mm fan adapter, get 2 good 120MM fans, and get everything ready.

I'm still searching for a good EATX case, Norco 4220/4224 seems like the best option so far.
 
DSee said:
Little update:

Our [H] fellow member R-Type has the same motherboard and was kind enough to clear the ECC/Non-ECC compatibility issue for me. It turns out memory does NOT have to be ECC. Thanks R-Type & pjkenned.

Now I need to find some cheap 80mm to 120mm fan adapter, get 2 good 120MM fans, and get everything ready.

I'm still searching for a good EATX case, Norco 4220/4224 seems like the best option so far.
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If you want something inexpensive try the RPC-470.
 
RPC-470 seems like a good solution, but it would be nice to have hot-swap capability.

Edit: It seems like the RPC-470 supports 10x 3.5 HDD's..
I could also use a 3x5.25" to 5x3.5" Adapter and get 15 HDDs installed.

Pretty good, top of my list now.
http://www.norcotek.com/RPC-470.php
 
Ordered 32GB ram and the RPC-470 case.

I'll post pics and results as soon as I get all the hardware
 
Kendrak said:
Pick up a nice corsair in the 600 watt range (preferably on sale) and buy a $7 adapter for the 2nd power connector.

It is what most of us have done for our SR-2 boards (just with 750 watt PSUs to feed the hungry buggers)
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excuse my ignorance but what is the 2nd power adapter needed for?? are we taking abt a 24pin power adapter?
 
juanP said:
excuse my ignorance but what is the 2nd power adapter needed for?? are we taking abt a 24pin power adapter?
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Many 2 proc boards have 2x 8pin 12v lines to them, one for each proc.

PSUs that have 2 of these power lines are typicaly costly. However a good PSU with a cheap molex to 8 pin adapter solves this.
 
Quick update:

Parts arrived, put everything together and left on table for benching...

HFM Results so far:

Project: 6900 (R36, C18, G50) A5
PPD: 70.5K - 71K
FAH Args: -bigbeta -smp
OS: Arch Linux 2.6.38 x86_64

Still need to mess with BIOS, tweak memory settings, disable/enable NUMA, and install "the kraken" to see if I can improve these numbers.
My goal is to get at least 80k PPD.
 
Good Deal...
Motherboard alone is around $800.. keep in mind this is a 1U kit, so it will be EXTREMELY loud.

I would recommend getting the Motherboard, a 3/4U case, CPU's, and build it from scratch.
 
DSee said:
Good Deal...
Motherboard alone is around $800.. keep in mind this is a 1U kit, so it will be EXTREMELY loud.

I would recommend getting the Motherboard, a 3/4U case, CPU's, and build it from scratch.
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This, that looks to be a good deal but I can't see how it would be anything even remotely close to acceptable on the noise front.
 
R-Type said:
This, that looks to be a good deal but I can't see how it would be anything even remotely close to acceptable on the noise front.
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Very loud.

BTW: The Supermicro H8QGi+-F is around $710 and I think is the lowest cost Quad G34 HT3 motherboard around. You really don't need SAS controllers and such for a dedicated folding rig.
 
I still want to see the Dynatrons with the 120mm fans. Hurry up with the pics, Dsee!
 
Sorry buddy, ended up not getting the 120mm fans.
The 77mm fans are not that loud, so I'm holding off on buying extra stuff..
I'll post some pics of the system tonight.
 
pjkenned - can you pls. post a pic of you noctua's on the 4p board. wanted to see how they all all fit.
 
juanP said:
anybody recommends this for a 4p ?

its a barebore server with the motherboard and coolers?

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SY-142GTF&show=p
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DSee said:
Good Deal...
Motherboard alone is around $800.. keep in mind this is a 1U kit, so it will be EXTREMELY loud.

I would recommend getting the Motherboard, a 3/4U case, CPU's, and build it from scratch.
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^^^ This.

1U servers usually use a large number of small (40mm), high speed (7K+ RPM) fans that force as much air as possible through the case and get very, very loud. Definitely not suitable for a computer anywhere near human traffic.

I'd agree with DSee and go for a 4U case/solution. Your ears, and everyone else will thank you :cool:
 
Couldn't get any new bigadv WU's today, so I turned the system down and took some pictures.

System improved a littlebit by installing the-kraken and disabling NUMA.

P6901 TPF: 19:00 min (74.3K PPD) args: -smp -bigbeta

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Power consumption:
Idle: 125W
Load: 300W :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Fans are probably helping a litte..
 
That is some good power consumption! Less than double my single processor rig.
 
Was thinking that 300w sounds high, but see you have a lot more hooked up in that boxen than I do in mine.
 
DSee said:
System improved a littlebit by installing the-kraken and disabling NUMA.
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is that right? shouldn't NUMA be enabled post-Kraken? I know it should be on SR-2's, but not sure about G34's
 
pjkenned said:
Was thinking that 300w sounds high, but see you have a lot more hooked up in that boxen than I do in mine.
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Yes,
I'm going to unplug all fans (5x80mm, 2x 120mm), and see if it makes any difference..

Activate: AMD said:
is that right? shouldn't NUMA be enabled post-Kraken? I know it should be on SR-2's, but not sure about G34's
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As far as I know Windows = Numa Enabled, Linux = NUMA disabled.
I've been folding for 3 weeks, so I could be wrong ;D
 
NUMA should be enabled with the Kraken wrapper, regardless of OS. For G34 systems, you probably need to disable node interleaving, which enables NUMA.
 
musky said:
NUMA should be enabled with the Kraken wrapper, regardless of OS. For G34 systems, you probably need to disable node interleaving, which enables NUMA.
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Yessirreeee. NUMA makes a huge difference in Linux for the better, and a notable difference in Windows for the worse.
 
10e said:
Yessirreeee. NUMA makes a huge difference in Linux for the better, and a notable difference in Windows for the worse.
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You are right - since there is no such thing as Kraken for Windows, you would never want to enable NUMA for Windows regardless of CPU architecture.
 
I just built a new G34 2P system. I'm trying to figure out where "NUMA" settings are in the BIOS and can't find anything by that name. I'm currently running the system in Windows 7/64 Pro. Once I get the the BIOS settings nailed (my first 2P system) and baselines for voltages and temps, then I'll be installing Linux. But in the meantime, I'd like to ensure NUMA is off.

Asus DGPE-D16
BIOS 2005
 
Linden said:
I just built a new G34 2P system. I'm trying to figure out where "NUMA" settings are in the BIOS and can't find anything by that name. I'm currently running the system in Windows 7/64 Pro. Once I get the the BIOS settings nailed (my first 2P system) and baselines for voltages and temps, then I'll be installing Linux. But in the meantime, I'd like to ensure NUMA is off.

Asus DGPE-D16
BIOS 2005
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Its typically in advanced memory settings or something similar and is labeled 'Node Interleaving"

NUMA Off = Node Interleaving On
NUMA On = Node Interleaving Off
 
Fast reply, thanks. OK, the option in the BIOS is Auto, which I already had it set..

DSee has already been helpful in assisting me in the BIOS, but I'm still unsure about some of my settings. I don't want to dominate this thread with a 100 questions, so, does anyone have a list of BIOS settings or a link for optimized Folding in Windows for the KGPE-D16?

On a P6900, the system is currently performing at TPF 24:34, which is about 40K PPD, excluding WU upload time.
 
Linden said:
Fast reply, thanks. OK, the option in the BIOS is Auto, which I already had it set..

DSee has already been helpful in assisting me in the BIOS, but I'm still unsure about some of my settings. I don't want to dominate this thread with a 100 questions, so, does anyone have a list of BIOS settings or a link for optimized Folding in Windows for the KGPE-D16?

On a P6900, the system is currently performing at TPF 24:34, which is about 40K PPD, excluding WU upload time.
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Sadly that may not be too far off, Windows is really poor with the multiproc systems. I have a 2p intel hex system at 2.66ghz and it only pulls 63k in Windows. I will be giving it a vm once I finish my current build.
 
Linden said:
Fast reply, thanks. OK, the option in the BIOS is Auto, which I already had it set..

DSee has already been helpful in assisting me in the BIOS, but I'm still unsure about some of my settings. I don't want to dominate this thread with a 100 questions, so, does anyone have a list of BIOS settings or a link for optimized Folding in Windows for the KGPE-D16?

On a P6900, the system is currently performing at TPF 24:34, which is about 40K PPD, excluding WU upload time.
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For Windows, you want NUMA off/node interleaving on, although I would probably advise a VirtualBox VM running Linux, in which case you probably want NUMA on/node interleaving off.
 
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