24 LCD tests on Anandtech site

[Martial]

I just put their conclusion and best choices

In terms of overall performance, quality, and features, one LCD rises above the others. The Dell 2408WFP looks the same as the 2407WFP, but it offers additional input options, an improved color gamut, and amazing color accuracy even without calibration. Dell has become the 800-pound gorilla of the LCD market, offering great products at very affordable prices. The 2408WFP may not be the cheapest LCD on the market, but if we had to choose one 24" LCD that would satisfy virtually all users, it's an easy choice. The only blemish on an otherwise perfect scorecard is the 38 ms input lag. That's enough to prevent the 2408WFP from receiving our Gold Editors' Choice award, but it's still worthy of our Silver Editors' Choice. If you're not an extremely competitive FPS gamer, this 24" LCD belongs on the top of your list.
(that the one i have bought from DELL Canada My Lcd was made in Mexico . i am very satisfied and i don't see the problems noted in some european sites I don't play games so the input lag is not a problem for me.I have calibrated using Spyder3pro and the colors are very good)


For gamers, determining the best TN-based 24" offering is a bit more difficult. There are plenty of LCDs we have not reviewed, but we've seen enough that we feel comfortable in making a recommendation. The Samsung 2493HM and Gateway FHD2400 are the two favorites, and choosing between them can be pretty subjective. Samsung offers better overall color accuracy, but we figure users interested in color accuracy are already going to want an S-PVA panel, and we really like the design and appearance of the Gateway FHD2400. Thus, we are happy to give the Gateway FHD2400 our Bronze Editors' Choice award. For a price of only $450, you don't even need to compromise on input options or other features.

 

[silverglider]

I just put their conclusion and best choices

The only blemish on an otherwise perfect scorecard is the 38 ms input lag.

They compared it to other LCD. 2408wfp's input lag compared to CRT is around 60ms on average, worst in its class. Probably worst out of all LCD's on market.

Aside from input lag 2408wfp is good, but NOT perfect as they've put it. Never use those big, so called "authority sites" and their reviews to draw conclusions. They are big enough (number of visitors and linkage to their review all over internet) for Dell, Samsung and others to sneak particular samples to them, or they may have a tacit agreement. Just look what happened with a gamespot reviewer who got kicked upon writing a negative but honest review of a game whos producer is a big adverstiser on that site. It's about business, stick to forums.

 

[sdlvx]

I agree. Anandtech is not a good review site. I don't trust them. Whenever someone posts about one of their reviews in a forum, it seems like someone or a few people come out of the woodwork and highlight critical mistakes that were made in the review.

Stick to [H] and forums. It's the best way to go about it.

 

[Obi_Kwiet]

2408? Isn't that PVA?

 

[Dunan]

2408? Isn't that PVA?

thats exactly why its not possible for that dell to be a top choice

was the NEC 2490 in there?

something tells me that they looked at these monitors for gaming only, which is hardly what monitors are solely used for

 

[Martial]

Before i read this review at Anandtech i have bought Dell WFP 2408 despite bad review on europeen forum.I use it for graphics softs 2d-3d .That why i have not see the input lag :i don't play games
I am agree with the Anandtech conclusion and ,for now i don't see on the LCD i have (made in Mexico) some problems others have .Honestly i like the sharp display and colors of this Dell.I have calibrated it with Spyder3pro and i am very satisfied.
Sorry if others don't like this model and have problems

 

[silverglider]

I use it for graphics softs 2d-3d .That why i have not see the input lag :i don't play games

Its not about games only, I am 3d artist as well, I rarely play games. You are a happy man that you don't notice it. That doesn't mean it don't exist.

Asked my wife to try mouse movement, she can't notice anything wrong.
Asked my ex workmate, he can notice but barely, and it doesn't bother him.
Asked my brother, he said "wtf is this crap!?"

Thats the trouble with input lag, some people are perfectly fine with it, for some its unbearable.

 

[Chromatik]

I'm on the hunt for a 24" LCD so the review was well timed. My current monitor is not exactly LAN friendly (see sig) and the beast is starting to show its age.

As someone who does 65% gaming and 35% design I'm having a very hard time finding an LCD that seems like it will fit the bill. Once I get something I'll be stuck with it for while so I'm trying to do as much research as possible. I need good crisp color accuracy but as I primarily play games like UT3, Stalker, etc I need to avoid lag related issues as much as possible as well

All I want is a 24" LCD that has no input lag, perfect color, no ghosting or backlight bleed and costs under $600. That shouldn't be too hard right?

 

[Martial]

I was searching perfect 24 Lcd i can buy here in Canada and i didn't find it So i risk on Dell 2408 and i don't regret .I use mouse with computer since 1985 (Atari St) I can see if i have problem or not with my cursor about input lag And i don't see it with this LCD not plus i have it before with my Viewsonic 19 inch CRT professional. I also use Intuos graphic tablet and don't see input lag
But i don 't suggest to my older son ,who play lots of games ,to buy the Dell WFP 2408
The first thing i did when i receive it i download and use lots of test for check the problems with the display Check for example for banding soory i didn't have ETC So i keep it because i like it
And anandtech tester like it too So ......

 

[LittleMike]

I'm right there with Chromatik - I do *everything* on my machine and am currently in the market for a new monitor. Not that there's anything wrong with mine (19" CRT) but it just doesn't support a high enough resolution for my wants. I need something that is going to perform as close to this one as possible, though. That means it's got to be fast because I'm a PC gamer, it's got to have great color gamut because I'm also an artist/designer. I do a lot of photo editing, DVD authoring, video editing, and game. I feel like they contradict each other as far as the kind of panel TN vs. IPS vs. PVA, etc. that the current technology offers.

I was on Dell's website and they currently have the 2408WFP on sale for $604, but then I heard about the input lag and I thought that might drive me nuts. Anyone have any suggestions for Chromatik and myself?

 

[Dashel]

I was on Dell's website and they currently have the 2408WFP on sale for $604, but then I heard about the input lag and I thought that might drive me nuts. Anyone have any suggestions for Chromatik and myself?

I would suggest researching the DoubleSight DS-263N. 26" IPS panel for ~700.00 USD. It seems to fit the bill for what you are looking for, but a bit more expensive than the Dell. I was hoping the 2408 was going to be the answer too but I'm going with the DoubleSight as soon as they come back in stock. Worth a look.

Check out this thread for more info:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1268063

 

[LittleMike]

I would suggest researching the DoubleSight DS-263N. 26" IPS panel for ~700.00 USD. It seems to fit the bill for what you are looking for, but a bit more expensive than the Dell. I was hoping the 2408 was going to be the answer too but I'm going with the DoubleSight as soon as they come back in stock. Worth a look.

Check out this thread for more info:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1268063

Thanks, Dashel. How much more of a footprint does that 26" have over a 24" monitor, though? My desk has 2 small shelves on either side and I'm afraid I wouldn't have the clearance. Really all I'm looking for is something with 1920x1200 resolution, so a 24" will do it. Also how do you feel about IPS over PVA panels? I do a lot of gaming, so I need something with little latency in it, but everyone says that TN panels have terrible gamut and viewing angles. I also do a lot of photo editing, some video editing, and DVD authoring, so color gamut does concern me. I also do artwork as well, so it's also critical for that (OpenCanvas FTW!). Right now I'm using a 19" CRT and it works great, there is no input lag, and the color gamut is strong, though probably not as good as some of today's offerings. The only problem I have with it is that it's resolution maxes out at 1600x1200.

 

[10e]

It depends on the bezel, but generally about an inch difference in width between 24" and 26". Keep in mind the DS-263N does not adjust up or down so ensure that your vertical space is big enough for (it's generally an inch taller panel than a 24" as well).

TNs are standard or can be wide gamut just like PVA/IPS. They are 6-bit so they use technical wizardry to get the equivalent of 8-bit colors. For color sensitive work, I don't recommend TN panels due to vertical viewing angle color shift. I usually don't recommend PVAs for gaming due to excessive input lag, though some older ones are decent (LG L246WP, BenQ FP241W).

For your purposes, I would wait for the DS-263N. IPS panel with top notch viewing angles and great performance.

Regards,

10e

Thanks, Dashel. How much more of a footprint does that 26" have over a 24" monitor, though? My desk has 2 small shelves on either side and I'm afraid I wouldn't have the clearance. Really all I'm looking for is something with 1920x1200 resolution, so a 24" will do it. Also how do you feel about IPS over PVA panels? I do a lot of gaming, so I need something with little latency in it, but everyone says that TN panels have terrible gamut and viewing angles. I also do a lot of photo editing, some video editing, and DVD authoring, so color gamut does concern me. I also do artwork as well, so it's also critical for that (OpenCanvas FTW!). Right now I'm using a 19" CRT and it works great, there is no input lag, and the color gamut is strong, though probably not as good as some of today's offerings. The only problem I have with it is that it's resolution maxes out at 1600x1200.

 

[LittleMike]

It depends on the bezel, but generally about an inch difference in width between 24" and 26". Keep in mind the DS-263N does not adjust up or down so ensure that your vertical space is big enough for (it's generally an inch taller panel than a 24" as well).

TNs are standard or can be wide gamut just like PVA/IPS. They are 6-bit so they use technical wizardry to get the equivalent of 8-bit colors. For color sensitive work, I don't recommend TN panels due to vertical viewing angle color shift. I usually don't recommend PVAs for gaming due to excessive input lag, though some older ones are decent (LG L246WP, BenQ FP241W).

For your purposes, I would wait for the DS-263N. IPS panel with top notch viewing angles and great performance.

Regards,

10e

Hey 10e, thanks for the input. So is the DS-263N a true 8-bit monitor? I didn't read through the entire 35 some-odd pages of that other post, but I read through some of it, and it seemed there were a lot of defective units that had bleed in that right corner and much debate over whether or not it has a polarizer. Is that correct? As I said, I read through some of it, but not the whole thread.

Honestly I've never heard of the brand, and $700 is a lot to blow on a monitor that may or may not be what I need. I'm a bit confused, though. In this thread, it gives TFT breakdowns like this:

TN Gamers
Considered a "gamers" panel due to it's fast pixel response times which reduces trailing images know as "ghosting". However, this advantage has been reduced by new technologies to accelerate pixel response times in other panel types. Colors and contrast tend to be weak and blacks are not truly dark. Viewing angles are significantly limited. However, monitors based on this technology tend to be inexpensive.

IPS / S-IPS Graphics Work or Web Browsing
Considered to have the best color reproduction of all panel types, these panels are well suited for graphics work or web browsing. Pixel response time is also good but slower than the TN "gamers" panel. Contast and blacks are also less dark than VA panels but viewing angles are excellent.

MVA / P-MVA / PVA / S-PVA Compromise for All-Around Use
These panels are a compromise between the fast pixel response times of the TN panel and the excellent color reproduction of the IPS panels. Contrast and blacks are best of all the panel types. Viewing angles are similar but slightly inferior to IPS.

So wouldn't that mean that a PVA panel would be more what I'm looking for? I was under the impression that PVA panels are faster than IPS, not as fast as the TN panels, and not as good color representation as an IPS. So basically the better all around use monitor. Keep in mind that I do heavy graphic worse as well as game. Sounds like I should just buy a big ol' CRT. Haha.