22" vs 24"

[sockhead]

Hey guys, I don't know too much about the newer LCD techs, so I was hoping I could gather some info.

The panels driving the newer 22" and 24" screens, do they run the same technology? It seems that on the market, that the 24" screens are much more expensive than the 22" ones, despite the size difference. I've read things that the native resolution on the 22" screens is weird... but won't your game scale well anyway?

Will a 22"/24" HDCP compliant LCD support 1080p for console/dvd connection?

Another thing I've been noticing is that people are using lcd TVs as their monitors. From what I gather, these screens are much cheaper than designated LCD monitors... but people seem to praise them with very high regard. What then is the downside to using LCD TVs as monitors? I realize that the resolutions supported by these screens is much lower than a comparable LCD monitor... so how do you guys find it?

Thanks!

 

[Weenis]

Generally 22" panels run TN panels (faster, not quite as good color reproduction or viewing angle) where as 24" use S-IPS panels which are more aimed at people who are hardcore into photo editing and graphics productions.

You'll notice that the native resolution of 24" panels is 1920x1200 and 22" panels is 1680x1050.. which is 16:10 as well.. but 1680x1050 is the native resolution for 20.1" panels as well. (which is what I have) its seen by a lot of people to be too small of a resolution for that large of a panel. PC games now generally all support 16:10, but consoles don't as of yet.. I've heard the 360 is supposed to soon support it but I'm not 100% on that.

1080P compliance is impossible for a 22" with a resolution @ 1680x1050.. , 1080p = 1920x1080. A 24" monitor however would be compliant, HDCP, only over DVI and its usually monitor specific, do searches for specific monitors you are interested in. They all sport different inputs, some have extras some do not.

Downside to LCD TV for a monitor, they have lower resolutions for the higher sizes, where a 30" monitor has 2560x1600 res native, a 32-42" TV still maxes out at 1080P (again 1920x1080).

I personally run an HDTV 720P as a monitor for my second PC which just got designated downloading/HTPC.. but i find that 720P isnt enough for me.. and I sit about 5 feet away.

If you want something thats middle road go with a 24" dell 2407s are on sale for 609 right now. 1080P support and a nice size. Right now the prices between TVs and monitors and their respective sizes seem to be a "just a little more, like 75-100 dollars" to go up to the next best thing. i.e. 600ish for a 24" LCD monitor, 800ish for a 32" tv, and up to 1100$ for some of the nicer models.. 1350 for a dell 3007WFP right now, and the 2707WFP from dell is also 1080P @ a price tag of 1299.

Hope that helps!

 

[Manny Calavera]

Hey guys, I don't know too much about the newer LCD techs, so I was hoping I could gather some info.

The panels driving the newer 22" and 24" screens, do they run the same technology? It seems that on the market, that the 24" screens are much more expensive than the 22" ones, despite the size difference. I've read things that the native resolution on the 22" screens is weird... but won't your game scale well anyway?

Will a 22"/24" HDCP compliant LCD support 1080p for console/dvd connection?

Another thing I've been noticing is that people are using lcd TVs as their monitors. From what I gather, these screens are much cheaper than designated LCD monitors... but people seem to praise them with very high regard. What then is the downside to using LCD TVs as monitors? I realize that the resolutions supported by these screens is much lower than a comparable LCD monitor... so how do you guys find it?

Thanks!

Some of what you are asking was recenly dealt with in the following thread...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1170127&highlight=asics+++24"

Some screens do support that res @ 19x10 with consoles and dvd players.(Dell 2407/Nec 2490,2690/Benq 241w series with 1:1 fix,Gateway FPD 2485W,ETC.....)

Not to many downsides per say,I would start reading the Westy 37" inch thread,or at least skim it,and then ask a few questions of owners in that thread,then maybe hit up the Sharp 32" GPU1 thread next.... Good luck

 

[bootstrap]

Generally 22" panels run TN panels (faster, not quite as good color reproduction or viewing angle) where as 24" use S-IPS panels which are more aimed at people who are hardcore into photo editing and graphics productions.

There actually aren't that many new 24 inch S-IPS panels that I'm aware of. The NEC 2490 is one of them, I believe, but that will run you around $1500. The large majority of 24 inch panels are *VA variants -- the BenQ and LG use P-MVA panels, the Dell and Gateway use S-PVA panels. There's even a new 24 inch TN panel, so you can no longer assume that buying any 24 inch monitor will guarantee that you won't get this type of panel.

 

[sockhead]

What would be the optimum size screen for a smallish sized desk? I'd be sitting at most 2 feet from the screen...

There was this 23" Sony monitor that ran 19x10, but I don't think they're selling it anymore. I remember how the visual quality on that astounded me, as well as the actual beauty of the screen itself. How does this compare to more recent models, and would it be a viable buy to keep for a few years?