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2027/2028 Nvidia/AMD/Intel GPU speculation

Comixbooks said:
I predict the Dark Ages of PC gaming 2025-2029 I doubt prices will ever go down in my lifetime. Those Data Centers SSDs will wear out and they still will have to replace them along with other components.
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tbh it's not bad that the new generation needs more time. i'd be much more upset if i had to buy the new gen at the current crazy prices.
 

AMD’s RDNA 5 “AT0”: Enthusiast GPU with the handbrake on ???​

27. February 2026 06:00
Samir Bashir

Realistic assessment​

  • Rumor status: Plausible, but unconfirmed
  • Market strategy: Image cultivation instead of mass market
  • Competitive pressure: High, especially in the >$1,500 segment
  • Timeframe: Realistic in 2027 at the earliest
If AMD launches AT0, it will likely be as a prestige project with limited quantities. If not, RDNA 5 will remain positioned in the high-end performance segment, with prices between $700 and $1,000 as the likely focus.

In short: AT0 is currently more of a strategic option than a finished product. And as long as AMD does not officially confirm anything, it remains just that, a rumor with medium plausibility.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/amds-rdna-5-at0-enthusiast-gpu-with-the-handbrake-on/
 
Marees said:
If not, RDNA 5 will remain positioned in the high-end performance segment, with prices between $700 and $1,000 as the likely focus.
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the rumoured at0->at2 drop off is quite subtancial

64 CU - 192 bits - 275 watt did feel like a 9070xt replacement (and close to what could be in the XboxX replacement) and probably trying to keep that price point (and if the 6000 series has launched could be more in the 5080 segment than the 6080 one).

Could be a big change but usually the high power version of what goes in consoles is more high of the mid instead of low of the high end (despite price), like what a 6750xt was.
 
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LukeTbk said:
usually the high power version of what goes in consoles is more high of the mid instead of low of the high end (despite price), like what a 6750xt was.
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ps5 pro = 9060xt
ps6 = 9070xt / (>10060xt )
xbox next = 10070xt (~3x PS5 pro)

xcloud = server (~8x PS5 pro)
 
LukeTbk said:
that almost an 5090, 25% faster than a 4090, 75% jump per cu performance from the 9070xt in a limited console power envelope. Sound optimistic
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in terms of RT expect between 5070 ti & 5080. raster doesn't matter much, imo
 
LukeTbk said:
ps5 pro is about a 6800, which is pretty much the 9060xt ? iiremember correctly specs and benchmark
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The card mentioned is 5-15% faster (even more in RT titles) faster than the PS5 Pro but I am used to consoles getting "overhyped" as it target a lesser tech savvy segement of consumers.
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
Please provide a list dividing A.I./M.L in good and evil then as it seems yopu do consider some of it good and some of it evil.
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No, because this is not the context. You simply assumed that it is. Assume is spelled ASS U ME.

Since it seems that I have to spell it out, I am alluding to the fact that AI data centers are currently jacking up the cost of all hardware with so far very little benefit. There is no good reason that it's gone nuts, it's just companies hopping on the band wagon.

I do not think any technology is good or evil. How we use it determines that. How we are currently using AI amounts to not much so far.
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
The card mentioned is 5-15% faster (even more in RT titles) faster than the PS5 Pro but I am used to consoles getting "overhyped" as it target a lesser tech savvy segement of consumers.
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you seem to be right, MLID always tend to over-hype any AMD product launch like the PS5 pro, it is a power restricted without as much cache than a 6800
 
THRESHIN said:
No, because this is not the context. You simply assumed that it is. Assume is spelled ASS U ME.

Since it seems that I have to spell it out, I am alluding to the fact that AI data centers are currently jacking up the cost of all hardware with so far very little benefit. There is no good reason that it's gone nuts, it's just companies hopping on the band wagon.

I do not think any technology is good or evil. How we use it determines that. How we are currently using AI amounts to not much so far.
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Really, so you can show me how the usage of energy consumption is realted to which services because just using a blanket statement would be les t han intelligent eg. we use A.I. for tasks that humans would be way slower at and use more energy at, but accodring to you it is bad simply because it is A.I.
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
Really, so you can show me how the usage of energy consumption is realted to which services because just using a blanket statement would be les t han intelligent eg. we use A.I. for tasks that humans would be way slower at and use more energy at, but accodring to you it is bad simply because it is A.I.
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Are you a bot or just illiterate?
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
Can you answer or are you just a fallacy poster wasting CO2 online?
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Try reading my responses which have nothing to do what you're talking about. My original comment has nothing to do what you're talking about.

Are you just a poorly made bot wasting power and CO2 online?

Sure seems like it from where I'm sitting.
 
THRESHIN said:
Try reading my responses which have nothing to do what you're talking about. My original comment has nothing to do what you're talking about.

Are you just a poorly made bot wasting power and CO2 online?

Sure seems like it from where I'm sitting.
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If you have something besides fallacies, I will respond differnetly but since you use fallcies, I repond in kind...pot calling the kettle black poster.
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
If you have something besides fallacies, I will respond differnetly but since you use fallcies, I repond in kind...pot calling the kettle black poster.
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We are at one of two conclusions here. you are completely ignoring my previous posts and my explanations of those posts to the point of complete nonsense.

This leaves us with two logical conclusions:

1. This account is a bot. It is displaying typical characteristics of a bot in that it can string together coherent sentences and incite arguments, but cannot follow a conversation in any way.

2. This is a real human being and is attempting to derail the conversation. This is an obvious and very poor attempt at misdirection to prove.... I'm right you're wrong? Well that's not uncommon on the internet. It's also a very common tactic employed by political activists and the like. Usually its executed far better but here we are.

Take your pick guys.
 
THRESHIN said:
We are at one of two conclusions here. you are completely ignoring my previous posts and my explanations of those posts to the point of complete nonsense.

This leaves us with two logical conclusions:

1. This account is a bot. It is displaying typical characteristics of a bot in that it can string together coherent sentences and incite arguments, but cannot follow a conversation in any way.

2. This is a real human being and is attempting to derail the conversation. This is an obvious and very poor attempt at misdirection to prove.... I'm right you're wrong? Well that's not uncommon on the internet. It's also a very common tactic employed by political activists and the like. Usually its executed far better but here we are.

Take your pick guys.
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I say we err on the side of caution and ban the account for being a bot. I was ready to put him/it on ignore after the first few posts I read anyway because asking inane questions vs adding to the conversation when you're a new poster tells me you're just here to argue.
 
Comixbooks said:
I predict the Dark Ages of PC gaming 2025-2029 I doubt prices will ever go down in my lifetime. Those Data Centers SSDs will wear out and they still will have to replace them along with other components.
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Maybe we'll luck out and the dearth of affordable PC Hardware will bring about smarter development, increased efficiency, and better games.
 
Bankie said:
Maybe we'll luck out and the dearth of affordable PC Hardware will bring about smarter development, increased efficiency, and better games.
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No, they'll force us into cloud gaming from our overpriced consoles or phones or something.
 
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No, they'll force us into cloud gaming from our overpriced consoles or phones or something.
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The big interesting part of cloud gaming would be for publisher to go around the consoles-phones and not have to pay those platform (steam, Sony, MIcrosoft, Apple, Google) 15-30% charge on every transaction, Ubi-Epic-EA-TakeTwo-Tencent, etc... could think that making people install an app on a smartv and get to play games via streaming directly from them is a much easier ask, them buying many consoles or even installing and using many different store-launcher on PC.

People that have their hands on the overpriced consoles-phones, could probably want this to happen the less they can, better sales someone a consoles, have them pay for the compute and electricity, and still charge them monthly to play games like they do right now, the moat/retention is stronger and the competition much smaller, once you bought a consoles you are more commited to it than an smartv app (which everyone can starts...).
 
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MavericK said:
No, they'll force us into cloud gaming from our overpriced consoles or phones or something.
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Sadly this is the path it will go also partly why I picked up a 5090 because for the first time in my adult life I'm not 100% sure we will get a next gen.
 
tunatime said:
Sadly this is the path it will go also partly why I picked up a 5090 because for the first time in my adult life I'm not 100% sure we will get a next gen.
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I have a 7900xtx water blocked
Im good for a couple years. I hate nVidia because of Jensen. If the board removed him then I'd buy nV again. Anyways we all know when AI hits ASI humanity will do whatever it says to do regardless of outcome like they did for Homelander once he took V1. Gaming as we know it will die because AI will outlaw it change it or who knows. And that fuckstick leather jacket wearing billionaire prick is the main villain in this equation. Plus next gen 6090 ir whatever wil cost 5 to 7k guaranteed because of that slobknobs greed.
 
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tangoseal said:
I have a 7900xtx water blocked
Im good for a couple years. I hate nVidia because of Jensen. If the board removed him then I'd buy nV again. Anyways we all know when AI hits ASI humanity will do whatever it says to do regardless of outcome like they did for Homelander once he took V1. Gaming as we know it will die because AI will outlaw it change it or who knows. And that fuckstick leather jacket wearing billionaire prick is the main villain in this equation. Plus next gen 6090 ir whatever wil cost 5 to 7k guaranteed because of that slobknobs greed.
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Why would they remove Jensen? He making the entire board extremely rich.
 
tunatime said:
Sadly this is the path it will go also partly why I picked up a 5090 because for the first time in my adult life I'm not 100% sure we will get a next gen.
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According to GamerMeld on Youtube, AMD RDNA 6 is going to cure cancer, and the rtx 6090 is going to populate planets 6 dimensions away. So I'm sure if he is right you'll be fine.
 
So what's the new feature(s) going to be on the next GPUs that OEMs will seemingly arbritrarily lock out of previous gen GPUs (like MFG on Ada Lovelace because of missing flip metering hardware and no fallback methods that otherwise exist)?

I hope Nvidia isn't banking on "DLSS 5" (that has nothing to do with Super Sampling) is going to be next gen's killer app seeing the internet's response to that and also after demoing it on Blackwell already.

Would be funny if they launched some kind of proprietary VRAM compression hardware feature limited to next gen, and then use that as an excuse to keep launching 8GB GPUs in 2027 while also skimping on VRAM on every other non-90 series GPU.
 
T4rd said:
So what's the new feature(s) going to be on the next GPUs that OEMs will seemingly arbritrarily lock out of previous gen GPUs
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PS6 will be so big for the next gen of AMD, that they will not mind if it work on previous gen or not much and basedf on what sony want quite a bit.

vram compression (all asset type for AMD, at least texture for Nvidia) will be a major one, for AMD they will not have the luxury to care much if it work on previous gen, I suspect Nvidia incredible all RTX gpu track record could continue here, unlike MFG it could be an actual interesting feature for old gpu, worth to run even if slower because of how costly on performance lacking vram get.

Nvidia will have better than blackwell generative asset (geom, texture maybe even soft deformation, hair and so on), would expect blackwell to support it with their neural engine-8bits support, maybe slower on Lovelace would not surprise me if turing-ampere does not and by the time it would matter if it ever catch on in games years laters, they will be quite old gpus.
 
apparently nvidia is preparing for a super release next

it seems consumer gaming Rubin might be delayed to 2028 because nvidis is respinning it on Intel fabs

which means AMD would go ahead with RDNA 5 AT2 launch on july 2027 — probably 192 bit bus, 18gb & $900 with performance matching 5080 ?
 
Marees said:
apparently nvidia is preparing for a super release next

it seems consumer gaming Rubin might be delayed to 2028 because nvidis is respinning it on Intel fabs

which means AMD would go ahead with RDNA 5 AT2 launch on july 2027 — probably 192 bit bus, 18gb & $900 with performance matching 5080 ?
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Nothing is ever going to under $1000 again at the rate things seem to be going
 
Marees said:
it seems consumer gaming Rubin might be delayed to 2028 because nvidis is respinning it on Intel fabs
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eager to see this and how it turns out - I really did find it neat/interesting how Nvidia could still 'do so much'/come ahead even on Samsung's inferior 8nm node with Ampere - and we don't know if Intel yet will be better/good/mid/worse/really bad
 
Marees said:
it seems consumer gaming Rubin might be delayed to 2028 because nvidis is respinning it on Intel fabs
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I imagine every gen saw Nvidia (they tried hard on Lovelace with Samsung I would imagine) to make it work on non TMSC node for bargenain power and saving money if they are good enough, specially with their new AI tech that make making gates for every node fast, they will probably try intel-samsung and see how it work and that will leak out that they are, but that would not tell us much
 
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