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chlywly

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So what do you guys think of the rumors that they will all have Retina displays.

Especially the 15" Macbook Pro. That could be very interesting.. Such a high resolution on a Macbook. I guess I'm trying to figure out why that would be a good idea (wouldnt everything be too small?)
 
chlywly said:
I guess I'm trying to figure out why that would be a good idea (wouldnt everything be too small?)
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No, for the same reason that nothing got smaller in iOS when the iPhone 4 gained a Retina Display: it's just doubled pixel density while keeping all UI elements to scale. Same display size, twice the resolution.
 
Yeah but I'm more curious how other applications or say the internet sites and browsers like chrome deal with it. Will be interesting to see anyway. I just forked out like 4k for a Macbook Pro lol so having to sell it and get a new one would suck :0
 
chlywly said:
Yeah but I'm more curious how other applications or say the internet sites and browsers like chrome deal with it. Will be interesting to see anyway. I just forked out like 4k for a Macbook Pro lol so having to sell it and get a new one would suck :0
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You can turn up the DPI settings in Windows to see how this would work. Things just scale appropriately.

And no one is forcing you to sell your existing macbook and buy a new one... it's not like the extra resolution will equate to more usable space if they're just going to double the DPI.
 
I'm interested to see if the 13" would come with at least a 1600x1000 or so display. If it wasn't for that dinky low resolution display that the 13" offers I'd pick one up.
 
chlywly said:
Yeah but I'm more curious how other applications or say the internet sites and browsers like chrome deal with it. Will be interesting to see anyway.
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Sites will handle a double resolution MacBook Pro the same way they handled a double resolution iPhone: they won't have to do a thing.

You're not grasping that the UI elements are going to scale with the increased DPI. This isn't a matter of just jacking up the resolution and thus reducing the perceived size of on-screen UI elements ala Windows; everything is going to be scaled up to match. Everything will look better, but it'll use and feel like the current 1440x900 display.

The inconvenience will come from app developers who need to create @2x scaled UI graphics, just as they did when the iPhone 4 adopted the Retina Display.
 
Doubt they will go anything higher than 1920*1200..

Unless they really giving up the performance ratio or somehow got a really strong GPU behind it..
 
shansoft said:
Doubt they will go anything higher than 1920*1200..

Unless they really giving up the performance ratio or somehow got a really strong GPU behind it..
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Ivy Bridge's GPU is plenty capable of driving 2880x1800.
 
If they really do have a monster 2880x1800 display, they are gonna be REALLY expensive.

Larger displays = more pixels that can fail = more defective units.

In addition, LG (who makes the 'Retina') hasn't rumored anything about such a display.
 
Zurginator said:
If they really do have a monster 2880x1800 display, they are gonna be REALLY expensive.

Larger displays = more pixels that can fail = more defective units.

In addition, LG (who makes the 'Retina') hasn't rumored anything about such a display.
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Plenty of panel manuf, ranging from Sony (not the JV with Sammy), Samsung, Chimei, and likely many others, make 300ppi+ panels.

Though of those, only LG, Chimei, Sony seem to be appearing in actual products.
 
Two things I'd be hopeful for:

1. Please stay 16:10
2. At least make matte screens an option, as glossy sucks
 
I pray for the day iTunes (esp on Windows) is not a complete piece of shit, but I know it will never happen.
 
a retina display is about the only feature that will get me to upgrade to an ipad3 at this point. The processor, memory, GPU and everything else about the ipad2 is just about perfect 'as-is'. A better camera couldn't hurt, but then again, I doubt many people use them to take photos when a dedicated camera or cell phone has just as good, if not better, photography capabilities and it's easier to carry around.

as for the laptop, as nice as it would be to see high DPI monitors the norm (who needs AA?), it doesn't interest nearly as much as it does on a mobile device where you're likely sitting a lot closer to the screen. It would look pretty sexy though. If I ever decided to give up my PC's and jump into a mac pro, it would deff. be a retina version.
 
dr.stevil said:
a retina display is about the only feature that will get me to upgrade to an ipad3 at this point. The processor, memory, GPU and everything else about the ipad2 is just about perfect 'as-is'. A better camera couldn't hurt, but then again, I doubt many people use them to take photos when a dedicated camera or cell phone has just as good, if not better, photography capabilities and it's easier to carry around.

as for the laptop, as nice as it would be to see high DPI monitors the norm (who needs AA?), it doesn't interest nearly as much as it does on a mobile device where you're likely sitting a lot closer to the screen. It would look pretty sexy though. If I ever decided to give up my PC's and jump into a mac pro, it would deff. be a retina version.
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I seriously doubt Apple will push out a non-Retina iPad, since the Transformer Prime 700 already has one.
 
dr.stevil said:
a retina display is about the only feature that will get me to upgrade to an ipad3 at this point. The processor, memory, GPU and everything else about the ipad2 is just about perfect 'as-is'. A better camera couldn't hurt, but then again, I doubt many people use them to take photos when a dedicated camera or cell phone has just as good, if not better, photography capabilities and it's easier to carry around.
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I disagree. I'd love to have improved cameras on the iPad, especially for FaceTime purposes. I think the front-facing camera is pretty low quality and winds up making real people (not the paid actors in stock photos) look horrible.

I also can't say no to improved CPU and GPU performance, particularly if that improved performance has a negligible effect on battery life, and especially if the improved performance is accompanied by a bigger battery for even longer battery life. Ideally, though, Apple would find and use more power-efficient WiFi radios. I find that WiFi is by far the biggest drain on battery life, at least with my usage pattern.

There are plenty of improvements the iPad 3 can make, and I'd welcome them all with open arms.
 
MrCrispy said:
I pray for the day iTunes (esp on Windows) is not a complete piece of shit, but I know it will never happen.
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I too wish Apple would just start at the ground level and just redo iTunes for Windows completely. I loathe that piece of crapware.

That said, wireless sync-ing since iOS5 and recent versions of iTunes is a really neat feature, but not something that can't be improved by revamping iTunes.
 
I want a retina-level display but with everything needed to fully support that display. Don't give me a high-res screen if the graphics suck or the battery life is only 5 hours (I could give up a little battery life). I think Apple is smart enough to not release the iPad 3 until the tech is there. That's why I'm on the fence about an iPad 3 will street before fall. I think the chances are strong what we'll see an iPad 2s - with more memory, faster processor/graphics, and 4G. But I'd love to be wrong.

Frankly, I'm thinking I'm going to avoid any Apple product with an "s" in its name. Not because I think they suck, but because I know what i need is the next thing (and also I'd rather spend my $$ on the bigger impact features, rather than the smaller "refreshes" Apple to keep pace with the market). Better to sync to the years where Apple is bumping to the next-gen stuff.
 
I agree with avoiding "s" products from apple. I buy every other generation or skip 2 generations(if I can!)

I have the original iPad and will get the 3rd.
 
If you always wait for the next big thing, you'll never have anything.

I have no real qualms with the "s" stuff, it's the tock of the tick-tock cycle. We see it with processors, video cards, televisions, toasters, etc. It's the way of investing resources in refinement and tweaking rather than reinventing the wheel on a regular basis.

The rumor mill has it that OS X already has, deep in the code, initial support for ultra-high-res displays. HiDPI is staged, they just need a mass-produced way to do it. Will it happen soon? Ever? Who knows. Rumor mill and all.

http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/12/enable-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-lion/
 
SuperSubZero said:
The rumor mill has it that OS X already has, deep in the code, initial support for ultra-high-res displays.
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Not a rumor at all. HiDPI is already in the code and works perfectly fine. I've used it on a 30" display and it's beautiful. Only a matter of time before it ends up on the Macbook...
 
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