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1920x1200 recommendation

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Khanmots

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I'm looking for a new monitor.

1920 x 1200 is a must. No way I'm giving up vertical resolution.
24" is a strong desire (it'd be really nice if it'd match up size-wise with my existing Samsung 204Bs)
I'm undecided on panel type. As I've been happy enough with TNs so far (my 204Bs are TN, right?), I haven't been able to convince myself that going IPS is worth it.
And finally, would love to keep the price down as I'm still in just-bought-a-house shock :eek:

As for what I'll use it for... lots of browing the web, working on documents, etc. Decent amount of gaming. Some watching movies, although eventually once I get everything wired up (sadly it's far down my to-do list :( ), the movies will be mostly watched on my TV.
 
No brainer:

http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/HP_ZR24w/VM633A8ABA/11108332/

You will pay a price premium for all TN based 16:10 panels currently as they are no longer being manufacturered in high enough quantities. At this point you must ask yourself if you'd rather go with a well tested and reviewed eIPS/H2-IPS panel for not a whole lot more. Otherwise be happy with your nearly $400 TN. Gaming wise the ZR24w has RTA and is far faster than any "5ms" TN, without any perceptible input lag.
 
Hadn't realized that the TN panels had all gone to the 16:9 ratio. Although I guess it makes sense when you think about it, 16:9 is cheaper to make than 16:10, and clueless consumer just knows "1080p OMG!" :/

How do blacks compare between IPS and TN? I know neither is as good as a PVA, but I'm not sure how they stack up against each other.
 
lawless2142 said:
No brainer:

http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/HP_ZR24w/VM633A8ABA/11108332/

You will pay a price premium for all TN based 16:10 panels currently as they are no longer being manufacturered in high enough quantities. At this point you must ask yourself if you'd rather go with a well tested and reviewed eIPS/H2-IPS panel for not a whole lot more. Otherwise be happy with your nearly $400 TN. Gaming wise the ZR24w has RTA and is far faster than any "5ms" TN, without any perceptible input lag.
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Still, the ZR24w falls short when it comes to contrast and responsiveness when compared to the LP2475w and U2410. But for almost $200 less (the same price as OP's $400 TN!) you can't beat it.
 
Bluntman, I'm not averse to spending money when I'm getting something for it. I'm just not a fan of spending hundreds for improvements that I won't notice without a side-by-side comparision.

However, your comments regarding it falling short on contrast concern me... and what I've been reading with regards to quality concern me as well.

Looks like I've got lots of reading in my future...
 
There is one notable TN that hasn't gone to 1920x1080. The Hanns G 28" Monitor. It's going to have typical TN image quality issues but it does feature 1920x1200 resolution and a huge screen for around $300.
 
On a related question, should I be looking to avoid extended gamut only displays? Since I'm not doing photoshop or anything that'd make use of thier capability, it sounds like all I'd get is oversaturated colors?

Or am I misunderstanding how this works?
 
Honestly, I don't see the point of wide gamut for non-professional users. If someone can think up a good reason, let me know. As far as I can tell all it does is make colors inaccurate for normal day to day use.
 
Khanmots said:
On a related question, should I be looking to avoid extended gamut only displays? Since I'm not doing photoshop or anything that'd make use of thier capability, it sounds like all I'd get is oversaturated colors?

Or am I misunderstanding how this works?
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It's a waste of money unless you do photo work. (It is pretty cool there though as you can see all sorts of new brilliant shades in flower, sunset, tropical ocean water and fall foliage photos or photos of brilliant neon colors. There can be quite a difference. That said a great many photos show no difference at all.)

If all you do is web, games, tv, movies, well not one of those works properly outside of sRGB or REC709. So you'd have to rely on the sRGB emulation mode. And unless you go to a $900+ (AND recent release) class wide gamut, those modes have tended to be either missing entirely or poor. Plus it's a lot easier to calibrate an sRGB monitor well than many wide gamuts unless you either have special software, a $700 probe or the manufacture offers sepcial probe/software combos (again mostly on $900+ monitors only).

But if you do do a fair amount of photowork in addition to the other stuff than it can be well worth it.

Also a recent $900+ wide gamut also covers sRGB space better than most sRGB monitors so they can actually be even better for pure sRGB work too, but it is a steep price to pay for a fairly minor difference there for pure sRGB work (they would have less banding and stuff too).
 
^ But I like my waste of money sitting on my desk!

Frankly, oversaturated colors don't bother me so much. With the calibration profile from TFTCentral it doesn't look too bad at all. I like vivid colors, and love wide viewing angles because I rarely sit in my chair straight up. TN is a curse for improper posture.

What I can't stand is seeing bloody color shift from top to bottom looking dead center at the screen.
 
dude i just got my Asus VK266H monitor today. I am in love. I got it used on fleaBay but, it looks and performs like new. and with a price tag of 158 shipped, this was a steal. kinda. I highly recommend this or the Asus VW266H. the VK266H has a built in web cam thats all, other than that, they are both the same. I am a big fan of Asus, but im not gay.
 
messyrimjob said:
dude i just got my Asus VK266H monitor today. I am in love. I got it used on fleaBay but, it looks and performs like new. and with a price tag of 158 shipped, this was a steal. kinda. I highly recommend this or the Asus VW266H. the VK266H has a built in web cam thats all, other than that, they are both the same. I am a big fan of Asus, but im not gay.
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Not even metrosexual? I keed! I keed!
 
monitorrat, thanks for the info. Sounds like if I want to dodge headaches that I should just stick to standard gamut displays.

At this point, my biggest worry with the ZR24w (other than quality control) is the black levels. From what research I've done it takes a lot of effort and calibration to get decent blacks... and I don't know much of anything about how to calibrate. Is this something that's relatively easy to pickup?
 
You can use other people's calibration settings or just eyeball it like I did. It's really not hard to get something very accurate without the use of a professional calibration device. The ZR24W has very accurate out of the box settings. Just use the OSD for everything else. I've settled on bright: 20, cont: 80, rgb 254,255,252 and it's retina scorching bright and the black levels are pretty respectable.

If you have decent color perception then just use these graphics and adjust yourself: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
 
Best 16:10 24 incher I have seen is the one I currently use Benq G2400WD which they stopped making. If you don't mind used I have found one or two in the FS/FT section.
 
vjcsmoke said:
There is one notable TN that hasn't gone to 1920x1080. The Hanns G 28" Monitor. It's going to have typical TN image quality issues but it does feature 1920x1200 resolution and a huge screen for around $300.
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Agreed. Still the best value in the market. Most of the critics of this monitor have never actually since it live and in person. If you want value there is no second option to this
 
I am in the same situation of seeking a similar monitor. I have the same 204B as well and will be doing the same basic tasks on whatever I get, but I was told to get the U2410. Yet they are out of stock and every day the date is pushed back. So I have been considering the ZR24w as an alternative. I don't look at photos and I just want a great basic picture for whatever I look at and while gaming. Is the HP comparable to the U2410? I have no concern for price...only best performance.
 
I recently purchased a Hyundai W240D for work, it's a 24" 1920x1200 TN panel and can be found for around $300 (I got it for $260 from Frys Electronics). Movies on it are fine, but I haven't had an opportunity to try gaming on it for obvious reasons. :)
 
Well, I'm not really interested in the 28" display; too low of a res for that size in a monitor.

I'll do some checking up on the alternatives the rest of y'all have mentioned, although right now I'm leaning towards the ZR24w. Really appreciate all the help :)
 
Get the Asus. I love mine. It is 26" at 1920x1200 and looks excellent. $158? WOW. I got mine new for $250 but if you can get one under $200? Go.
 
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