1800xt Vs 1950pro

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bn589

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My sapphire X1800xt Died and Sapphire wants to replace it with a x1950 pro.

I have not done much research on the 1900 series (Last time i looked at cards was over a year ago when i bought the XT)

Do you think i should accept it or hold out for better?
 
bn589 said:
My sapphire X1800xt Died and Sapphire wants to replace it with a x1950 pro.

I have not done much research on the 1900 series (Last time i looked at cards was over a year ago when i bought the XT)

Do you think i should accept it or hold out for better?
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the 1950pro should be better in shader heavy games where as the 1800xt should be better in not so heavy shader games,
 
bn589 said:
Would you accept the 1950 pro, or hold out for something better?
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http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards...8545eeb5a00d68c98a20865d7&card1=466&card2=326

The 1800XT is about 10% faster in older games but the 1950Pro has twice the shaders and should be at least 50% faster in those games.

Considering that newer games are all about shaders I would consider this a big upgrade in new games and maybe 10 slower in old games as the extra shaders do also help in older games.

I would consider this a great way to get a free upgrade. While Quake may be a tad slower almost everything else will be much faster :)

-JB
 
See if you can pay a few more pennies and get an X1900XT or X1950XT.
If not, the performance of the 1950 pro will for the mostpart be pretty close to that of the X1800XT.
 
I'll update this when i get more information from sapphire.


Danny
 
jrb531 said:
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards...8545eeb5a00d68c98a20865d7&card1=466&card2=326

The 1800XT is about 10% faster in older games but the 1950Pro has twice the shaders and should be at least 50% faster in those games.

Considering that newer games are all about shaders I would consider this a big upgrade in new games and maybe 10 slower in old games as the extra shaders do also help in older games.

I would consider this a great way to get a free upgrade. While Quake may be a tad slower almost everything else will be much faster :)

-JB
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Where is the 50% benchies at? I want to see.

To the op, you won't even notice your X1800XT died and has been secretly replaced with a X1950pro :)
 
In terms of performance they are almost the same. Only in some games one with have slightly more fps or slightly less. If it doesn't cost you anything then you're not losing anything.
 
aZn_plyR said:
Where is the 50% benchies at? I want to see.

To the op, you won't even notice your X1800XT died and has been secretly replaced with a X1950pro :)
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Click on my link above and look at the shader performance.

The 1800XT has 4 extra pipes but it only has a 1-1 shader to pipe design.

1800XT = 16 pipes, 16 shaders
1950Pro=12 pipes, 36 shaders
1950XT=16 pipes, 48 shaders

The 1800XT is clocked a bit higher and the 4 extra pipes mean alot in games that do not need alot of shaders. In newer games it's all about shaders and while losing 4 pipes hurts the x1950Pro the 36 vs 16 shaders means that the shader performance is twice that of the 1800XT.

-JB
 
I called them back and they offered me a 1950XT.


So, looks like i'm getting the best of both worlds.


Happy birthday to me!
 
Sweet, good to see you were upgraded. I am using the sapphire 1800XT with 512mb. It has been running strong though. I will probably limp along on this until the next generation comes out. (9800 nvidia perhaps)
 
jrb531 said:
Click on my link above and look at the shader performance.

The 1800XT has 4 extra pipes but it only has a 1-1 shader to pipe design.

1800XT = 16 pipes, 16 shaders
1950Pro=12 pipes, 36 shaders
1950XT=16 pipes, 48 shaders

The 1800XT is clocked a bit higher and the 4 extra pipes mean alot in games that do not need alot of shaders. In newer games it's all about shaders and while losing 4 pipes hurts the x1950Pro the 36 vs 16 shaders means that the shader performance is twice that of the 1800XT.

-JB
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OK you can read the manual, now where are those 50% faster shader performances increase?
 
aZn_plyR said:
OK you can read the manual, now where are those 50% faster shader performances increase?
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are you serious =p? there are more then 2x the shaders, hence the shaders should perform 50%+ faster. does that mean double fps in shader intensive games? obviously no.
 
Yeah, I can F8cking count, but he's claiming that in shader intensive games the X1950pro outruns the 1800 series by 50%. Why don't you seriously re-read the thread.
 
jez dude take a time out nothing to get worked up over:D sure he was not saying you could not count
 
I noticed a definate improvement when I switched from a X1800XL to a 1950pro. But the cpu was also changed from a 3800+ to a Core 2duo E6550 running at 3Ghz
 
aZn_plyR said:
Yeah, I can F8cking count, but he's claiming that in shader intensive games the X1950pro outruns the 1800 series by 50%. Why don't you seriously re-read the thread.
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Maybe you should read...

The 1800XT is clocked a bit higher and the 4 extra pipes mean alot in games that do not need alot of shaders. In newer games it's all about shaders and while losing 4 pipes hurts the x1950Pro the 36 vs 16 shaders means that the shader performance is twice that of the 1800XT.

-JB
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Where do I say that the x1950 is 50% faster? I claim. which is true. that the "shader" performance is 50% faster. This does not mean 50% faster in FPS but it was said to show why the x1950 is faster (to what extent is not the issue) that the 1800 even though the 1950 has 4 less pipes. The fast that the 1950 has twice the shader power means that in shader heavy games it is faster, in less shader heavy games it is slower.

-JB
 
ok so you said, "The 1800XT is about 10% faster in older games but the 1950Pro has twice the shaders and should be at least 50% faster in those games."

O ok, so you worded your statement wrong and finally got it after 2 replies... that's ok.
 
sweet a x1950xt
You definitely got a nice upgrade from your rma.
The x1950pro is definitely a little slower (~10%) than the x1800xt in probably 60-70% of real world games. I know cos when I bought a 2nd hand x180xt from a company, it came slightly damaged and artifacted. I sent it back for a replacement but they had run out of stock so I got a full refund instead. I was looking everywhere for a similar offer but found none and my attention turned to the x1950pro. Whilst it's a great card, lots of reviews and discussions oint to the x1950pro to perform slightly below a x1800xt.

Luckily I found a bargain x1900cf edition card for a bargain price. Also recently bought a bargain x1800xl AIW for my secondary system.

Im sure you'll enjoy your x1950xt!
 
aZn_plyR said:
Yeah, I can F8cking count, but he's claiming that in shader intensive games the X1950pro outruns the 1800 series by 50%. Why don't you seriously re-read the thread.
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man you really need to learn chill out, and also read =p

The 1800XT is clocked a bit higher and the 4 extra pipes mean alot in games that do not need alot of shaders. In newer games it's all about shaders and while losing 4 pipes hurts the x1950Pro the 36 vs 16 shaders means that the shader performance is twice that of the 1800XT.
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note Shader performance, not game performance

Congrats on the card OP great card for sure
 
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