1500 pc (2nd attempt)

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1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etcGaming, Photo & 2d
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included? 1500 pc
3) Where do you live?new jersey
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. Please be very specific.everything
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.n/a
6) Will you be overclocking?i'd like to, but concerned about heat
7) What size monitor do you have or plan to have?22
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?before xmas
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? etc.strong gfx performance, upgrade capability to 45nm core 2 extreme qx9770, not interested in SLI'ing, plan to upgrade RAM to 8 gb, upgrade GPU later, so I upped the watts

Here is my second attempt at a build: $1500. Are the parts compatible? Are the companies/parts reliable? Will this work? Tweaks/Suggestions ae welcome to boost GFX performance, but staying in budget? Any Pros / Cons?

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F $24.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UB Black /Blue Computer Case $49.99
ASUS Striker II Formula ATX Intel Motherboard $269.99
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896-P3-1267-AR Video Card $244.99
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 750GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $79.99
Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor $164.99
Logitech MX518 2-Tone Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse $39.99
Logitech Black Access Keyboard 600 $24.99
Combo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
Rosewill RX850-D-B 850W Power Supply $298.98
Combo
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $174.98
Grand Total: $1,373.88 ($1507.63 w tx/sh)

Thanks
 
Hmm... You won't need a PSU of that much wattage for what you're building. You can save a bit of money by using a 750w or a bit lower instead. Might want to use that to get a nicer case. (go CM 690!) Try to get a combo deal with that RAM and something else. Combos with Vista only saves you ~$5.

I wouldn't get that nice of a mobo (wouldn't need it), but if you have the budget then it's fine. The rest looks pretty good.
 
cool, thank you for the advice. i'll check out the case. what company for PSU are quality?
 
1. That OS+Ram deal reeks. You can get the OS for $100 and G.skill/OCZ ram for $25-$50.
2. Your PSU selection from the old build was good, now you just changed it to an insanely overpriced Rosewill. $300, srsly? Your system won't even touch 850w no matter what you do.
3. If you're going to pay $270 for a motherboard, just get i7. P45s cost ~$100-$120 and I doubt you're going to be needing the high end or max o/c and whatnot... esp since you mentioned you're a 1st timer
Search for the P5Q, UD3R..
4. OS drive recommended in every single "rate my build" thread is the 6400AAKS, but ok..
 
lowteckh said:
1. That OS+Ram deal reeks. You can get the OS for $100 and G.skill/OCZ ram for $25-$50.
2. Your PSU selection from the old build was good, now you just changed it to an insanely overpriced Rosewill. $300, srsly? Your system won't even touch 850w no matter what you do.
3. If you're going to pay $270 for a motherboard, just get i7. P45s cost ~$100-$120 and I doubt you're going to be needing the high end or max o/c and whatnot... esp since you mentioned you're a 1st timer
Search for the P5Q, UD3R..
4. OS drive recommended in every single "rate my build" thread is the 6400AAKS, but ok..
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QFT. Except for the Rosewill part. Lowteckh, that Rosewill is bundled with the Q6600, hence the $298.98 price tag. Still a crappy bundle nonetheless.

To build upon lowteckh's advice:
- PSU wise, get the Corsair 750TX since it is of significantly better quality than that Rosewill PSU:
Corsair 750TX 750W PSU - $115

- Case wise, get this better cooling case for the same price:
Cooler Master RC-590-KKN1-GP ATX Case - $50

- I definitely second the recommendation for the WD6400AAKS for the boot drive:
Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $70

- Like Lowteckh said, you can get 4GB of DDR2 800 RAM for only $45 and get Vista home Premium 64bit for only $100:
G.Skill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ 2 x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM - $45
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 OEM - $100

You do not need DDR2 1066 RAM with the Q6600, even with overclocking in mind. In fact, I think there's enough room in your budget to get 8GB of RAM right now.

- Don't bother with that overkill of a motherboard. Just about any P45 mobo will compatible with the QX9770. Speaking of which, Extreme Edition CPUs rarely drop in price low or soon enough to warrant the upgrade. Unless you got some sweet connections or luck, you probably won't be upgrading or getting that QX9770 for a decent price. Oh and some other motherboard recommendations:
Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L Intel P43 Motherboard - $85
MSI P45 Neo3-FR Intel P45 Motherboard - $110
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R Intel P45 Motherboard - $120
Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 Motherboard - $115
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Intel P45 Motherboard - $130
Biostar TPower I45 Intel P45 Motherboard - $149
DFI Lanparty DK X38-T2R Intel X38 Motherboard - $180
Asus P5E Deluxe Intel X48 Motherboard - $220
DFI Lanparty DK X48-T2R Intel X48 Motherboard - $220
Gigabyte GA-EX48-DS4 Intel X48 Motherboard - $225

Just to help you out: All of these motherboards have PCI-E 2.0 which may be useful for future GPU upgrades. If you don't need RAID, more than 6 SATA ports and only need semi-decent overclocking, check out the DS3L. If you need 8 SATA ports, RAID, 4 PCI slots, and legacy ports, then get the Neo3-Fr. If you need 8 SATA ports but want RAID, firewire, a second PCI-E x16 port, a second gigabit port, support for 16GB of RAM, optional eSATA, and excellent overclocks, then get the UD3R. If you like the UD3R but want a second PCI-E x16 slot and x8/x8 Crossfire support, then get the UD3P. If you like the UD3P but want an onboard pre-installed fast booting Linux setup and don't need a second gigabit port, then get the Asus P5Q Pro. If you want a motherboard with excellent overclocking capabilities above all else (feature wise), go with the I45 or UD3P. If you want Crossfire with full x16/x16 bandwidth, get the Lanparty DK X38. If you have cash to burn, need x16/x16 Crossfire, and don't give a damn about getting the most value for your money, get the Asus, DFI, or Gigabyte X48 motherboards. Do note that the Asus website can be slow sometimes.
 
Define "everything" for us. Do you also need a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and/or speakers?
 
here is the new build, but my concern is if I upgrade (though it may be a while) i wantd to have enough wattage for then. will 750w be good? also, on though MoBos, some are listed as onl ddr2 1200 mem. will ddr2 800 work with those? lastly, i kept a ram combo because here is a mail in rebate for another $30 that dops the price further not shown.
here is the build. some concerns. losing 100 gb of HD space, DDR2 800 support, PSU watts for future upgades. have to stick with lga775, i7/x58 combos are too expensive right now. the cheapest lga1366 chip is $300 and the boarrds are $300. also HD is OEM, will it have all the wires I need?

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F
$24.99
1
COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case
$49.99
1
Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$69.99
1
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W Power Supply
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate$119.99
99.99
1
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
$99.99
1
Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
$164.99
1
Logitech MX518 2-Tone Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate $39.99
29.99
1
Microsoft Black Wired Digital Media Keyboard 3000
$27.99
1 COMBO
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
BIOSTAR TPower I45 ATX Intel Motherboard
$324.98
1 1 COMBO
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896-P3-1267-AR Video Card
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate$279.98
269.99
Grand Total: $1,202.88

Also, any suggestions on the monitor? is the choice good. I now have $200 more in budget. can I get something better performance wise (i.e. gfx, mem, cpu, monitor) Or maybe I should keep it in case I break the nobo in my first attempt, make it my insurance pool
 
everything, mouse, key board wires, etc... this is a ground up build, no old parts at all
 
Don't use the after-rebate prices -- you still have to pay the before-rebate costs up front. (And it will be weeks after all of your parts arrive before you'll even see the rebate checks.)

The retail motherboard package will come with enough cables (at least four, I believe) for your OEM optical and hard drives.

You don't need all of the power of the Corsair TX750 for your build -- especially if you aren't planning to get a larger monitor for another (few) years. You could save yourself some money and get a quality power supply like the Cooler Master Real Power Pro 550W PSU; it will be more than enough for the GTX 260.

Since you're considering overclocking, pick up an aftermarket CPU cooler like the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 (and its ACK-I7751 retention bracket). You may also want to pick up some additional/better case fans for the Centurion 590. The Scythe Slipstream or the Yate Loon D12S-series fans are good choices (you can find the Yate Loons at Petra's Tech Shop, among other places).
 
how a bout I upgrade the case to the antec 900 case for the cooling. if I can afford it, i should also go to the 280gtx right.
 
You don't need the GTX 280 for the resolution you're playing games at.

The RC-590 has plenty of space for everything, and it can support up to seven 120mm case fans. Many people here don't like the Nine Hundred, particularly because they consider it horrible for cable management.

Speakers are a highly subjective matter, so I can't really recommend one. If you can find them, though, I hear that the Swan M10 2.1 speaker set is a good choice.
 
AMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F $24.99
1
Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $69.99
1
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD $99.99
1
Logitech MX518 2-Tone Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse $39.99
1
Microsoft Black Wired Digital Media Keyboard 3000 $27.99
1
COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 650W Power Supply$30.00 Mail-in Rebate $79.99 $49.99
1
COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case $49.99
2
Scythe SY1225SL12L "Slipstream" Case Fan $15.78
1
Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor $164.99
1 combo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
BIOSTAR TPower I45 ATX Intel Motherboard $324.98

1 combo
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896-P3-1267-AR Video Card $279 (plus $30 rebate_ $249
 
great. i'll check out the yate loons real quick.. main thing is that this pc config WILL work, right? and 2. wont' burn down my house due to non-qualiy stock, right?
other then that, thanks a mil tiraides
 
Uh, yes, this configuration will work, and no, it won't burn your house down due to inferior stock.

We wouldn't have made our recommendations otherwise.... :rolleyes:
 
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