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AMD Bulldozer expected for Oct release.

Sad to say passed giving a shit. Maybe 3 months ago but now meh. SB-E or IB-E maybe piledriver now.
 
So, there's a rumor Bulldozer will be out next month?
I guess eventually, one of these threads is bound to be correct.
 
Well the Oct 13th date was really the next rumored date. So seeing Oct12th or mid-October be mentioned is somewhat in support of that (note: it's not an actual confirmation).

Just remember that the guy in the video shares cube walls with JF haha. Some people at OCN thought it was a fake video lol. So yes these are actual AMD employees, but obviously dates are fluid.
 
Mav451 said:
So yes these are actual AMD employees, but obviously dates are fluid.
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Fluid? Thats a tad of an understatement.
It's more like AMD is playing Three-card Monte with the release dates.
 
Something about being right about buying p67 that makes you feel special inside.
 
Unless BD beats the shit out of the 2600k, I don't think anyone is going to be buying these chips except fanboys...
 
I'm still saying Q2 2012 for Bulldozer. My evidence? SB-e isn't due out till 2012, and Tomshardware already has benchmarks for it and basically has already reviewed it. Meanwhile BD is supposedly out in October and we have nothing in respect to official benchmarks like SB-e has. At this point I think that BD will just be a Thuban with 2 extra-cores and extreme overclockability (kinda like how the Radeon 6850 runs like a 5850 even though it's a different architecture). Granted if it does make it this October, I will pick it up even though it's basically just an 8-Core Thuban. A 5.2Ghz overclock should give it some nice legs and run comparably to an older i7.
 
Doesnt matter anymore. I just got a 2600k and z68 mobo from Microcenter store last night for cheap.
 
Rauelius said:
(kinda like how the Radeon 6850 runs like a 5850 even though it's a different architecture).
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AMD changed the model numbers. 6850 is equivalent to 5750 in terms of cost to produce, sps, die size and the target customer. 6950 is the new 5850. Also yo do realize Intel is much different from AMD in the way they operate. Intel can release pre-production benchmarks all they want as they already have the 80% monopoly. They have nothing to lose.
 
At this point, I couldn't care less. I'm eyeing a z68 build as we speak...Should have just upgraded a 6 months ago. You can only delay something so many times before people just give up on it. Thats where I am at right now.
 
Yeah...but I was speaking in terms of performance. So I use the comparison to back up my belief that like the 6850 vs the 5850, BD vs Thuban will be cheaper to make, based on a more modern architecture, but will only provide a minimal performance improvement over the older part and in some cases it may be slower. But ultimately it will be cheaper to produce compared to the older part and may improve in performance as software evolves.

I don't think BD will provide enough of a performance improvement to compare to moving from a 5850 to a 6950. If it really did perform impressivly AMD would have released benchmarks. At this time AMD is bleeding the high-end and any chance to get upgraders who will deal with a Phenom II 965 to get a better performing BD down the road, were most will go with an i3-2100 and move on to IB or SB down the road. With AMD being quiet, My best guess is that BD is just an 8-Core Thuban performance wise.

I say March 2012 for the next CPU release as I feel AMD will cancel Bulldozer and release it on a G34 like socket that will unify the FX and A series to a single board and should compete with IB better than BD would vs SB.

But I'm probably wrong...and will happily purchase my 8-Core Thuban-Class chip in mid-october. Hell if it does OC to 5.2 Ghz easily I'll be very happy with it and should help it keep up with a i5 2500 at stock.

Intel releases pre-production benchmarks because they have faith in their products. AMD doesn't release pre-production benchmarks because the lack faith not only in their products but their customers.


sirmo said:
AMD changed the model numbers. 6850 is equivalent to 5750 in terms of cost to produce, sps, die size and the target customer. 6950 is the new 5850. Also yo do realize Intel is much different from AMD in the way they operate. Intel can release pre-production benchmarks all they want as they already have the 80% monopoly. They have nothing to lose.
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JF-AMD said:
the date we have is solid. the rumors are fluid.

I am not commenting on a rumor, simply that the date is locked, not fluid
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And yet AMD still won't announce the date (and now fully 2 years into the Bulldozer hype-machine). Doesn't sound like a company that is confident in their product.
 
JF-AMD said:
the date we have is solid. the rumors are fluid.

I am not commenting on a rumor, simply that the date is locked, not fluid
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And it wasn't solid when AMD said 60 to 90 days from June 1st ?


Or is it solid till amd decides its not again ?
 
JF-AMD said:
the date we have is solid. the rumors are fluid.

I am not commenting on a rumor, simply that the date is locked, not fluid
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Yay. I think hokie alluded to this in the OCN thread too.
 
FireBean said:
Unless BD beats the shit out of the 2600k, I don't think anyone is going to be buying these chips except fanboys...
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You have to consider price also. I'm in no way an AMD fanboy but I would consider one for a 2nd build if the performance/price was good. Even if it were less than my 2500K I'd consider one if it were like $120 or less
 
JF-AMD said:
the date we have is solid. the rumors are fluid.

I am not commenting on a rumor, simply that the date is locked, not fluid
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4th Quarter is the official statement from AMD with regards to Bulldozer. Anything else is in fact a RUMOR.
 
Rauelius said:
Intel releases pre-production benchmarks because they have faith in their products. AMD doesn't release pre-production benchmarks because the lack faith not only in their products but their customers.
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It's exactly the opposite actually.

The reason why you don't release early benchmarks is because you don't want to cannibalize your current sales. Intel's early benchmarks if you notice are products who have a minor granular improvement over the last generation. Like Ivy Bridge, same arch as Sandy Bridge, so the IPC is identical, Intel released the benchmark but not the final clock which is where the improvement is being made.

Evergreen was the best GPU gen AMD/ATI ever released up to that point, and just like with BD we didn't know anything about it (other than bunch of fake rumors) until the official release.

AMD is in business to sell CPUs and not in the business of appeasing a handful of enthusiasts that what they have in the works is up to the level of their expectations.

I am kind of getting tired of clueless commenters on these forums, people who don't know anything about AMD's track record or people with complete wrong ideas on why the things are the way they are.

AMD has never released early benchmarks, especially not on brand new architectures, Hammer, Evergreen, Northern Islands, Zacate, Llano.. all those were pretty successful, some more than others, yet AMD has never released early benches on them, why would they start now, and how can you make a connection that BD will be a dud because of it?
 
Couldnt have said it better myself, been trying to say the same thing for the past few weeks (last paragraph especially) in several threads.....

sirmo said:
It's exactly the opposite actually.

The reason why you don't release early benchmarks is because you don't want to cannibalize your current sales. Intel's early benchmarks if you notice are products who have a minor granular improvement over the last generation. Like Ivy Bridge, same arch as Sandy Bridge, so the IPC is identical, Intel released the benchmark but not the final clock which is where the improvement is being made.

Evergreen was the best GPU gen AMD/ATI ever released up to that point, and just like with BD we didn't know anything about it (other than bunch of fake rumors) until the official release.

AMD is in business to sell CPUs and not in the business of appeasing a handful of enthusiasts that what they have in the works is up to the level of their expectations.

I am kind of getting tired of clueless commenters on these forums, people who don't know anything about AMD's track record or people with complete wrong ideas on why the things are the way they are.

AMD has never released early benchmarks, especially not on brand new architectures, Hammer, Evergreen, Northern Islands, Zacate, Llano.. all those were pretty successful, some more than others, yet AMD has never released early benches on them, why would they start now, and how can you make a connection that BD will be a dud because of it?
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griff30 said:
Your question brings the sounds of crickets. lol
He can't say, there is a release date:
Not this month.
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JF-AMD responded by editing his post above mine a nice ninja edit :D
 
Forceman said:
And yet AMD still won't announce the date (and now fully 2 years into the Bulldozer hype-machine). Doesn't sound like a company that is confident in their product.
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It may not be lack of confidence in the product, it may be lack of confidence in regards to plentiful supply, since they no longer operate the fabs and are dependent on GF.
 
ASIA911 said:
No longer really care.
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I share this sentiment. I mean, sure I'm a bit curious about it, but I'm burnt on reading every new thread that promises some exciting new details. It will get here when it gets here for better or for worse.
 
teletran8 said:
4th Quarter is the official statement from AMD with regards to Bulldozer. Anything else is in fact a RUMOR.
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Technically, isn't an "unofficial statement" a rumor also? So in fact the only thing we have is rumors since the last "official" slide said 60-90 days after June 1?

No offense meant, just sayin' :D
 
I've waited for a while for this and I've just given up. I'm curious but I really don't care anymore and I'm pretty skeptical of how fast it'll actually be on release.
 
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