That's very much the truth, b/c I know the DFI UT nf3 250Gb (socket 754) board) offer 1/2 multi's....h311, I seem to recall even the old standard, the Shuttle AN50R, had them. So it's nothing that new or different than what other manufacturers have dun. ;) PLUS, if MSI didn't offer this feature...
One other comment, as you say no processor uses true half multi's---I thought that the AXP's offered a true half multiplier, as the Athlon 2000XP's default multi is 12.5x, for example. :confused:
I havta agree, from an enthusiast standpoint, it's no biggy & if & when I purchase an a64 system, I'd definitely give this board serious consideration. Esp. since it's the board used to take the top spot in 3dMark01 (>41K)...so it's definitely an oc-friendly mobo. Personally, I would just stay...
Perhaps fault is too strong of as word to use...but there has to be one of three things happening & until the 'scope is used it's all speculation anywayz. ;)
If the 1/2 multi's are being faked, either by NVidia or MSI, then I would definitely say there is blame to be dealt. Even if NVidia...
Something dawned on me while pondering how the A64 derives mem frequency...i.e., since there are only whole # dividers for the mem frequency, everyone is reporting that it is rounded up to the next whole divider. Check the charts & results from the article. The Everest reported mem. freq. is...
The SLK-948U is prolly the WTG, but don't 4get the Swifty, though it's not in stock, either, @ Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-108-037&depa=1
I have a Powercolor 128mb 9800se that mods fine w/ Omega Cats to 9800 pro. I run it everyday @ 414/370. Here's the best 03 I could save:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2546342
I've ran it up higher but I got a CPU variation error or some bs & I couldn't publish. It runs up to ~450/...
64C is a tad warm...but your cpu won't melt. ;) AMD states a max temp of 90C for </= the 2100 & 85C for 2200 & greater. So if that's an accurate reading you have a bit of headroom b4 meltdown. I have seen 60C a few times w/ the on-die sensor w/ my Asus boards...and the socket reading would be...
Personally I use hd coolers....I have an 80mm case fan in front of the hds in 2 of my systems, 2 big @$$ 5 1/4 bay sinked--6 40mm fan (total) having bastids for my raid array & the Vantec (pictured above) for my wife's WD 120JB. They were all relatively inexpensive compared to the price of the...
That's true insofar as voltage bumps go...you're always better off w/ the best oc @ the lowest possible voltage...it's a matter of trial and error. As far as your mem dumps, you should 1st dl MemTest86 & Windows Memory Diagnostic (if u want a second mem test):
http://www.memtest86.com/...
Just go w/ the sp97 & the Tornado....can't beat that combo & if the noise is objectionable then track down a Nexus or Sunbeam fan controller/ rheo-bus (as these will handle the draw of the Tornados). Of course, fan-induced dementia is not to be so easily dissed, as it's way cheaper than drugs or...
Yeah..you get what I was trying to say. The new versions are so much more user friendly... ;) I recall when I 1st discovered MBM, everything had to be configured---h311, the fan, the temps & so on would all be set to None & it was up to the user to find the right sensor (e.g., Winbond1...
When you install the latest incarnation of MBM (5360):
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
you'll have the option to upate to the latest preconfigured setups for various manufacturers mobos. Then it's simply picking the correct one from the pick list.
If your mobo is not there, go into system setup...
I agree...always works fine once setup...& the provided setups w/ the new version worked fine w/ my A7N8X Del. rev 2.0, just had to tweak the fan dividers for my Tornado & gpu fan & set it up like I wanted. Actually, MBM is perhaps one of the best proggies I have yet to use (free or...
Mobo Monitor is probably just not configured correctly...i.e., the cpu temp is not set to read the correct sensor/diode. Should be fairly easy to fix via the settings & to read the correct cpu temp simply enter the bios/ system setup & there should be a Hardware Monitoring/ PC Health heading in...
One thing you should note is that the diode temp is always going to read a lot hotter than the socket temp. This reading is from the core temp sensor which AMD implemented w/ the AXP's. On my A7N8X Deluxe there's about a 15-20C difference b/w the socket temp & the diode reading & the diode...
Go ABit, unless you want a toy to play w/---albeit one which may require several RMA's to actually receive a working model. ;) Check PCP forums & see for yourself all the problems w/ the LPB & the Infinity U2 & you'll find that the issues are numerous (from warped cpu sockets, doa boards, no...
Your score is about right for your system...3dMark01 is a cpu test as much as it is gpu. ;)
There are several tricks for up'ing your score---i.e., running Win2k vs. XP for AMD systems, shutting down services as per ViperJohn's guide, using dx8.1 for 3dMark 01, running 3dMark01 in real time via...
Well that's more like it... :D I knew there had to be some in here that enjoyed the beauty of refurbs as it was. Personally, I never saw the point in this turning into a dissertation on the wisdom of buying refurbs, that wasn't the point. I believe all here are mature enuff to know the...
I got one for $59 & it's fine so far. If one cap goes poof, o well... ;) So far the only parts I have had die on my were purchased new---that shows how my luck goes. H311, the 9600XT wasn't oc'ed @ all---basically b/c it was pretty much running @ max already, esp. the craptacular Samsung 3.3ns...
What? No sense of adventure.... Actually I don't buy them for any of my main rigs nor anything that I would consider mission critical. That being said motherboards don't break, insofar as they're solid state w/ no moving parts other than maybe a fan on the chipset. Idk what they teach ppl these...
I have purchased several refurbed mobos for backup systems & they all worked perfectly fine. ;) About 2 1/2 mos. ago I got a refurbed a7n8x Del. rev 2.0 for $59 (Free S&H, which is $3, btw). It works fine, as a matter of fact I'm typing this on it right this moment (an AIUHB 2100 @ 2.3ghz on...
3M be the best.. :D
Really you don't need up to 2000, unless you want that mirror finish. 1000 gives a nice smooth surface. 'Course if you really wanna go balls out pick up some Flitz polishing compound & a buffing cloth...and hit your 'sink w/ this stuff following the 2000 grit. You can use it...
I recommend the 3M brand wet/dry. It's available here @ Auto Zone & O'Reilly's Auto Parts (Sometimes Wal Mart has it, was well). Also, if you don't see it @ the parts store ask for it. One Auto Zone I went to kept the "good stuff" behind the counter. ;)
It's the feeling of being able to pull one over on "the man." ;)
As stated, I have a mobile 2400 Barton that cost me $77 & I can best a P4 3.2ghz in SSSondra's (04) cpu bench. As for saving money...idk about that, b/c of all the money I've spent on mod's to be able to oc to this level...
I rewired my 8cm Tornado to 7 Volts today & it was not bad @ all. Downside is the rpm monitoring quit working & the Asus Post Reporter would bitch on startup that the cpu fan was not working. I wasn't comfortable w/ this scenario so I put it back to 12V---will be buying a Nexus or Sunbeam soon...
Guess I need to reword this. I'm not being contrarian here or trying to start an AMD/ Intel flame war. I'm considering buying a Via 880/ Prescott 2.4A system & I'm wondering if my money would be well spent here. ;)
I know w/ the 18x multi that I won't be able to achieve that high of an fsb on...
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjAwLDY=
I read thru this review & granted it's a decent oc'ing board for the price....how is this a bargain compared to a good mobile Barton setup???
E.g.,
MSI PT880 Neo LSR = $64
P4 2.4a Prescott = $148
Thermalright SP94 = $53.99
=$265.99
DFI...
Did I say 3.4V??? 3.1 to 3.2 is fairly sane though, IMHO. I'm stuck @ just under 230 max and I know it's the lowish VDimm. Plus I do have crap equip insofar as I have 2 sticks of bh-5 that won't fly @ this VDimm (duh..) & ch-5, which seems to clock better @ lower voltages---guess, @ least, the...
You could keep the Tornado and add a Vantec Nexus fanbus. They're relatively cheap now @ Newegg (circa $19 for the cheapest model) and handle the Tornado fine. Even @ the lowest setting the Tornado still moves some air & is a lot quiter. ;)
Plus, you can fine tune the noise level/ temps to...
The AX-7's are bad@$$...I can personally attest to this b/c I have 2. ;) TRight has updated this 'sink to the current ALX-800...it's basically the same as the AX-7:
http://www.svc.com/thal.html
...& the price is certainly reasonable enough. I always liked the AX-7 better than the SK models...
I know the feeling...lol. ;)
But 2.9 is really not enuff. The massive oc's u c now are mostly running the VDIMM @ 3.4V plus!!! I guess I need to break down & get the Infinity... ;) I've been meaning to do the VDIMM mod on the old 8RDA+, it's just such a pain. Prolly be easier to go w/ the DFI...
Thatz why ur such a gawd... :p
IC where it supports 10W per channel, I overlooked that b4. That's not enuff for the 92mm Tornados...they draw 12.5 and they will burn the controllers out. The 80mm are, indeed, 9.1W and this controller should handle them, though, that's right @ the edge of what...